Zenmaster2009

I've heard through Trek CS that the Navigator is being replaced by a Trek "Shift" for 2013. Has anyone heard anything about this or have any info on this new "Shift"?

Zenmaster2009

I hate to answer my own thread but I found some info. It seems the bike is available to order now for retailers and they were provided info by Trek. Here' the first info online I've found. What do you all think when comparing it to the Navigator?

https://bikeline.com/product/trek-shift-4-173747-1.htm

RedKloud

Looks like they've just changed the name (with slight changes to the shape), just like they are changing the 7xxx series to "Verve"

Whiteknight

The name of the Multitrack series is also to be changed.

Juvenile

I went to the local bike shop to look at a Navigator 2.0, but they were sold out in my size in the store and from the factory. We both learned that the Nav 2.0 was replaced by the Shift 2. They had 2 in stock at a different location. I went to the other store and compared it side by side with a Nav 2.0. The only noticeable differences were the 'sportier' frame lines(more like a mountain bike) and cleaner welds.....and the $50 increase in price....$549 ipo $499.
I went ahead and bought it and am very pleased so far. It's the Sparkling Silver 18.5".

fromjusttheking

Hello all, new to this forum and just getting back into cycling.

My wife and I also attempted to order Navigator 2.0's but were also sold out. So I ordered a pair of Shift 2's.

BUT, while I was waiting for them to come in, I looked at a few other Trek's and just happened to see another similar bike (don't remember what model) and saw the trigger shifters and upgraded grips. I looked online at Trek for Shift info, and saw the Shift 3. After reviewing all the differences, I changed my order to a pair of 3's. Just got them in last week, and we have been riding them as much as possible. Sooooooooo glad I changed them to the 3. Love the trigger shifters, (even though the upgrade from 21 speeds to 24 is more or less useless to us), the upgraded grips, saddle and tires. The suspension seat post and forks seem stiff but work well. They ride great.

All in all, we are very happy with the upgrade. I feel it was worthwhile the extra cost. And of course, it helps to have a really good cycle shop to work with, one that really knows their stuff.

BTW, we are seniors in our late 60's, to me, 72. We too, are very curious as to anyone else's experience with the Shift 3.

otis66

The Trek Shift looks like a Crank Foward bicycle. I see now why my LBS is no longer a Electra Bicycles dealer. My LBS is a Trek/Specialized dealer. I will be very interested in this bicycle when it comes out.

otis66

The more I read about the new Trek Shift the more I like.

Zenmaster2009

Trek finally has info up on it's website.

https://www.trekbikes.com/us/en/bikes...shift_comfort/

fromjusttheking

Well I have to say, now having ours for a couple of weeks, we LOVE them. Really ride great, and the shifting is wonderful. Now understand, this is our first time with a multi-speed trigger shifter, but they sure beat the heck out of the twist shifters in our opinion. So easy to use, and has a very positive feel. The suspension seems to work well, though it may be a bit stiff being so new. We have been riding along a number of the C&O Canals bike paths in MD & WV, which are predominantly "smooth" gravel (from all the tons of cyclists in the past), and it has been very easy to navigate.

We have a pair of Shift 3 WSD's, and since there is no water bottle cage mounting on the down bar, we got a couple of M-Wave cages from Walmart online for $9.99 each, (actually distributed by Cycle Forge Group - https://www.cyclefg.com/shop/product....0&cat=0&page=1 ) and they work very well. I originally tried a couple of "standard style" cages that required screw mounting, but in this case mounted them with a couple of hose clamps with rubber under them and covered them with black electrical tape. They actually looked pretty good, but the tape always wanted to come off. With the M-Wave cages, they have a camlock type clamp (like the clamp that holds the seat post tight). Add some rubber padding under the clamps and wallah! They work fine. Very well made and designed, and rugged to boot. Will work on handlebars or down tubes. Will take up to just about a 2 inch diameter down tube and smaller. I highly recommend it, and for the price, how can you go wrong?

We "may have a couple of issues" regarding the saddles and tires we got with our bikes. We got 2 different saddles on 2 identical bikes. One has the elastomer vibration dampeners (shocks) on each side of the rear of the saddle (along with the 9 underside saddle spring suspension) and foam padding, and the other has no elastomer vibration dampeners (shocks) at all. The one with the shocks is dark brown with 3 gold bars and gold stitching, the one with out the shocks is black with silver bars and silver stitching, and has no elastomer shocks at all. Neither saddle has the rear LED light mentioned in the description. Sounds like old stock to me. It doesn't make sense. The newly added Shift info on the Trek site says the Shift 3 is supposed to come with a "Bontrager Suburbia FIT w/super-soft padding" saddle. To quote Bontrager's website for Suburbia (there is no FIT listed): Featuring the same D2 dual compound padding and 9-spring support as the Boulevard, Suburbia takes luxury to the next level by including vibration damping elastomers and a built-in rear light. It's comfort and safety in one convenient package. Does anyone know what the "FIT" is?

Second, the tires shown on the Trek website for the Shift 3 WSD state that they should be, and again I quote: "Bontrager H5 Hard-Case Ultimate, 26x2.0". However when you look at the specs for H5 on Bontrager, there is NO 26x2.0 tire available in Ultimate. So what gives? My tires do not state anything relating to "Ultimate" or "Plus" on the sidewalls. Only Hard-Case Lite and Plus are shown in a 2.0 size. See https://bontrager.com/model/09389 Again, what gives. It almost seems like they are equipping the bikes with whatever parts they have on hand, even if your model is supposed to come with upgraded items, and you are essentially paying for them, even if you don't get them.

I apologize for making this post so long, but since there don't seem to be any Shift users out there, I thought that this would be a good forum to discuss what I have encountered. I do plan to talk to Trek directly, if my e-mail post to them does not get answered.

BikeForums is a great site to "vent" and discuss our experiences, and I welcome any and all insight to what we have encountered.

All in all, we still love our Trek Shift 3 WSD's, and are very happy with the bikes overall.

Alan

otis66

What is the max air presure for the tires on you're new Shift?

fromjusttheking

These tires are Bontrager H5 26x2.00, supposedly HardCase. They are marked to "inflate between 60 PSI/4.1 BAR to 80 PSI/5.5 BAR. Inflate to the lower end for gravel paths, upper end for paved paths. Since we ride both, ours are around 70 PSI. I'm told to check the pressures every 1-2 weeks if you ride a lot, as they will lose pressure over time. They are also "directional" tires, in that the tread should be properly oriented, and each tire is so marked with a directional arrow if you remove them for and reinstall them.

Hope this is what you wanted to know.

otis66

That helps thank you. The Trek website does not list this info.

fromjusttheking

You're welcome. Are you looking on getting a Shift? If so which one: 1, 2, 3 or 4? Trek now has all 4 Shift models listed on their website. Our Shift 3 is MSRP'd at $659.99, but some sites offer them at $599.99, so you should be able to get a discount on one. We are still very happy with our Shift 3 WSD's.

otis66

I'd like to take the Shift 4 for a test ride.

fromjusttheking

Casey1984

Here is a Youtube Video I found about 2013 Trek Shift
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WwoZNzILVnA