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greaterbrown 03-14-09 09:01 PM

NR, great route and ride report.
When you showed me this route a couple weeks ago I thought about tweaking a BBC ride called Susquehanna Splendor by taking it further and over to york furnace. If you're up to try a 300K with me later this year, something like this could be a good one:
http://www.bikely.com/maps/bike-path/258832
I'll try to incorporate more of the roads from your route in it.

NoRacer 03-14-09 09:16 PM


Originally Posted by greaterbrown (Post 8531046)
NR, great route and ride report.
When you showed me this route a couple weeks ago I thought about tweaking a BBC ride called Susquehanna Splendor by taking it further and over to york furnace. If you're up to try a 300K with me later this year, something like this could be a good one:
http://www.bikely.com/maps/bike-path/258832
I'll try to incorporate more of the roads from your route in it.

Haven't looked at your route, yet, but we'd really need to be careful about the climbing. I was surprised at what my iBike came up with from today compared to what Bikely said it would be [5400ft]:

iBike - ~7,600ft
iBike processed thru TrainingPeaks training software = 8,690ft
BiM GPS Record = 9,619ft (with 8 miles missing)

I placed a cap on my wattage and heart rate, so I wasn't going very hard today--made the volume of climbing more tolerable.

NoRacer 03-14-09 09:22 PM

Man! I just looked at that route and I'm willing to bet that it has much more climbing than what Bikely shows. I'll be willing to bet that my iBike (computer readout) would show that as being about 10,000ft when it's all said and done.

LOL! We don't have to go to Virginia to do 10,000ft--it's here between PA & MD!

greaterbrown 03-15-09 09:45 AM

You're right about Bikely often being very low on climb figures. The Lake to Furnace ride shows something like 3500', but your iBike was at least 1500' higher. When I design routes, I usually sketch them out in googlemaps, then plot them in bikely, then go back to googlemaps to look for possible dirt roads, wrong intersections, etc. Recently, I've been glancing at the terrain view as well which is more helpful now that they've improved it.

That said, riding 190miles anywhere is going to add up to a decent amount of climbing. I liked the idea of cutting back over to York Furnace once on the west side of the river, but it does get into steep areas around there. Maybe, I'll plot this again coming further west near Red Lion where it's flatter and the York Furnace visit would get left out of this long one. It would def. suck to be 200K into this ride and be just digging into the hills again.

I definitely am psyched for the NR's annual 7/4OCMD ride, but I'd also like to get at least one more 300k (or more) ride under my belt this year.

The Human Car 03-15-09 09:34 PM

My stats for the week: 10,518 ft of climbing, 181 miles for the week, 9.4mph average speed, 43.5 max speed. Not too bad for my first week back on the bike.

For a summary of my routes http://www.bikely.com/maps/bike-path/09-March-15 which includes the historic route when I fell on a icy road and my time going out to DC for the National Bike Summit.

NoRacer 03-15-09 09:46 PM


Originally Posted by greaterbrown (Post 8533058)
I definitely am psyched for the NR's annual 7/4OCMD ride, but I'd also like to get at least one more 300k (or more) ride under my belt this year.

Me too! Psyched!

We definitely need to seriously think about getting firm commitments about going on this trip, so that I can find out if our free accommodations (G's place) will be open. I'm sure she would really love to be surrounded by cyclists, but it may hinge on whether her son is visiting from college at that time.

I'll get a better idea about what G's accommodations are like this May. The Severna Park crew will be starting their OC9 (Ocean City 2009) ride from Queenstown in May. I'm planning on doing the ride and on staying over G's--actually she invited the whole OC9 crew to stay at her place, but I can't see her having room for 20+ people. :eek:

NoRacer 03-15-09 09:49 PM


Originally Posted by The Human Car (Post 8536457)
My stats for the week: 10,518 ft of climbing, 181 miles for the week, 9.4mph average speed, 43.5 max speed. Not too bad for my first week back on the bike.

For a summary of my routes http://www.bikely.com/maps/bike-path/09-March-15 which includes the historic route when I fell on a icy road and my time going out to DC for the National Bike Summit.

:thumb: Great job Barry considering your still dealing with that hip!

The Human Car 03-15-09 10:34 PM

Coming home I stopped at Dunken Doughnuts in Clarksville off of 108 and they were so impressed with my rig and that I was traveling from DC to Baltimore (not to mention the crutches hanging out the back) I scored a free doughnut and a discount coffee.:thumb: I was thinking if they were impressed with 40 miles we have to stop in on one of our century rides see what happens. ;)

Anyway I'm just trying to keep it low key for a while while my left leg slowly gains strength.

NoRacer 03-16-09 05:41 AM

Didn't get time to process this ride from yesterday, so here it is now:

http://bimactive.com/ba/journal/post/10783/21371

After Saturday's 200k solo ride, I wanted to do a low key ride with little stress, hence this ride from BWI airport to Annapolis via the B&A multi-use trail.

There were lots of runners on the trail--very few bicyclists.

Once in Annapolis, I stopped and had coffee and a susage & cheese croissant at the Hard Bean Coffee and Book Reseller--nice little coffee shop close to the city dock that I was introduced to by the Severna Park Peloton bike club.

On the way back (~ mile 28.7 of the ride), I suffered a flat front tire. I didn't feel like messing with it due to the weather (drizzling), so I rode it the rest of the way back to the airport. Tubular tires; ya gotta love them for this aspect.

After the ride, I stopped in at a local Royal Farm Store to grab something quick to eat. Then, I headed home to get ready to go over my parent's home for my mother's birthday where we had Chinese food for dinner--my treat.

greaterbrown 03-16-09 07:24 AM


Originally Posted by NoRacer (Post 8536533)
Me too! Psyched! We definitely need to seriously think about getting firm commitments about going on this trip, so that I can find out if our free accommodations (G's place) will be open. I'm sure she would really love to be surrounded by cyclists, but it may hinge on whether her son is visiting from college at that time.

I'm a definite for the ride since July 4th is a saturday- frame shop's closed! :)
I was planning on taking friday off and making that the ride day. Regardless, Teresa's dad has a small place in Bethany where I could easily crash. So, I don't necessarily need accommodation. -GB

NoRacer 03-16-09 08:06 AM


Originally Posted by greaterbrown (Post 8537843)
I'm a definite for the ride since July 4th is a saturday- frame shop's closed! :)
I was planning on taking friday off and making that the ride day. Regardless, Teresa's dad has a small place in Bethany where I could easily crash. So, I don't necessarily need accommodation. -GB

Yeah... I'd really like to extend the weekend a bit. Friday as the ride day sound great to me. Riding back on Monday would be great too!

balto charlie 03-16-09 10:51 AM

GB/NR: you want to ride 300K and climb 10K ft:eek: 300K in of itself is huge AND to make it a monstrous hill climbing ride is borderline insane. More power to you guys:thumb:

balto charlie 03-16-09 10:53 AM


Originally Posted by NoRacer (Post 8537557)



On the way back (~ mile 28.7 of the ride), I suffered a flat front tire. I didn't feel like messing with it due to the weather (drizzling), so I rode it the rest of the way back to the airport. Tubular tires; ya gotta love them for this aspect.

You can ride on a tubular that is flat. How does that work? Does it ruin them?

balto charlie 03-16-09 10:58 AM


Originally Posted by The Human Car (Post 8536826)
I scored a free doughnut and a discount coffee.:thumb: I was thinking if they were impressed with 40 miles we have to stop in on one of our century rides see what happens. ;)

It was probably a senior citizen discount:D It would be quite a site to see crutches hanging off your bike. Keep on cranking, you too will be able to ride GBs 300K/10K biking extravaganza.

greaterbrown 03-16-09 11:03 AM


Originally Posted by balto charlie (Post 8539007)
GB/NR: you want to ride 300K and climb 10K ft:eek: 300K in of itself is huge AND to make it a monstrous hill climbing ride is borderline insane. More power to you guys:thumb:

NR will probably disagree based on the Lake to Furnace ride, however, I really have no interest in climbing hills on long rides. But if they're in between where I am and where I wanna go, I'll climb them. That being said, a 300K + unnecessary climbing is not smart. Any ride will automatically show more climb the more distance there is. 10,000 feet of climb on a 190 mile ride equates to 53ft/mile. Which would be about 2500' of climbing on a 50mile ride OR about 900' on a 17 mile ride. That's the same as my commute to work. ;)

The Human Car 03-16-09 11:47 AM


Originally Posted by balto charlie (Post 8539065)
It was probably a senior citizen discount:D

:notamused: j/k


Originally Posted by balto charlie (Post 8539065)
It would be quite a site to see crutches hanging off your bike. Keep on cranking, you too will be able to ride GBs 300K/10K biking extravaganza.

I should have done this from a different angle but you get the idea. ;)
http://photos-b.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos..._4856570_n.jpg

More pics at http://www.facebook.com/album.php?ai...5&l=7cd7f142d9

NoRacer 03-16-09 12:40 PM


Originally Posted by balto charlie (Post 8539031)
You can ride on a tubular that is flat. How does that work? Does it ruin them?

Tufo tubular clinchers aren't repairable anyway unless the hole is small enough that sealant works.

NoRacer 03-16-09 12:43 PM


Originally Posted by The Human Car (Post 8539382)
I should have done this from a different angle but you get the idea. ;)
http://photos-b.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos..._4856570_n.jpg

More pics at http://www.facebook.com/album.php?ai...5&l=7cd7f142d9

They look like wheelie bars to keep the dragster from popping too high of a wheelie! ;)

NoRacer 03-16-09 12:49 PM


Originally Posted by greaterbrown (Post 8539094)
... OR about 900' on a 17 mile ride. That's the same as my commute to work. ;)

We're approximately in the same neighborhood [no pun intended] for my 13.3 mile ride to work:


Activity


Route: --
Elev. Avg: 242 ft
Location: Essex, MD, Elev. Gain: +383 ft
Date: 02/11/09 Up/Downhill: [+1131/-748]
Time: 06:32 AM
http://bimactive.com/ba/ui/chart_get..._route&units=1

balto charlie 03-17-09 07:24 AM


Originally Posted by greaterbrown (Post 8539094)
NR will probably disagree based on the Lake to Furnace ride, however, I really have no interest in climbing hills on long rides. But if they're in between where I am and where I wanna go, I'll climb them. That being said, a 300K + unnecessary climbing is not smart. Any ride will automatically show more climb the more distance there is. 10,000 feet of climb on a 190 mile ride equates to 53ft/mile. Which would be about 2500' of climbing on a 50mile ride OR about 900' on a 17 mile ride. That's the same as my commute to work. ;)

Dat true, but 10,000ft of climbing is still 10,000 ft climbing:)

balto charlie 03-17-09 07:25 AM


Originally Posted by The Human Car (Post 8539382)
:notamused: j/k



I should have done this from a different angle but you get the idea. ;)
http://photos-b.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos..._4856570_n.jpg

More pics at http://www.facebook.com/album.php?ai...5&l=7cd7f142d9

Your bike is starting to resemble a semi.

NoRacer 03-17-09 07:35 AM


Originally Posted by balto charlie (Post 8544729)
Dat true, but 10,000ft of climbing is still 10,000 ft climbing:)

C'mon guys! :rolleyes: It's only 1.89 miles...up.

NoRacer 03-17-09 07:38 AM


Originally Posted by The Human Car (Post 8539382)
:notamused: j/k



I should have done this from a different angle but you get the idea. ;)
http://photos-b.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos..._4856570_n.jpg

More pics at http://www.facebook.com/album.php?ai...5&l=7cd7f142d9

I'm just wondering if anyone has tried to "surf" on that board over top of his rear wheel while he was pedalling. ;)

greaterbrown 03-17-09 07:59 AM

Charlie, I remember reading a ride report of your 2006 C&O trip somewhere.
Where is it? In the forums or on another site? -GB

balto charlie 03-17-09 09:14 AM


Originally Posted by NoRacer (Post 8544790)
C'mon guys! :rolleyes: It's only 1.89 miles...up.

It will be like climbing up a ladder for almost 2 miles .......on a bike:eek: I know I should just HTFU. I remember my C&O trip. If I had to climb a major hill in the last 20-30 miles I don't know how I would have fared. I probably could have climbed it but it would have been ugly. Now riding a flat road for that long also poses problems as you never really change positions. I would have welcomed rolling hills. I really think a topography like southern MD would be perfect for long distant cycling. Coasting would have been a nice option.


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