Gearing, inflation?
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Gearing, inflation?
Just wondering what MTB gearing most of you use?
Seems like most MTBs, with 1X12, gearing are geared really low.
I was also wondering how many still take along a pump and don't rely entirely on CO2?
Seems like most MTBs, with 1X12, gearing are geared really low.
I was also wondering how many still take along a pump and don't rely entirely on CO2?
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I'm not a mountain biker, so I can't speak to your questions. However, I do know enough to suggest that those two discussions might have been better discussed in separate threads. Also, your title suggested (to me) that you felt actual gear ratios were inflated.
I'm not a mountain biker, so I can't speak to your questions. However, I do know enough to suggest that those two discussions might have been better discussed in separate threads. Also, your title suggested (to me) that you felt actual gear ratios were inflated.
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1x12 with a 28t chainring here. I love being able to recover while climbing slowly, but stronger riders sometimes make fun of my gearing.
BTW I like 1x12 so much that I eventually converted my gravel and road bikes (albeit with bigger chainrings).
BTW I like 1x12 so much that I eventually converted my gravel and road bikes (albeit with bigger chainrings).
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1x11 30t with an 11-46 cassette at the back. It is Shimano XT (with some SLX). I usually carry a pump and C02 in case I need to get out quick or there is some other issue.
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Welcome to the forum.
I'm not a mountain biker, so I can't speak to your questions. However, I do know enough to suggest that those two discussions might have been better discussed in separate threads. Also, your title suggested (to me) that you felt actual gear ratios were inflated.
I'm not a mountain biker, so I can't speak to your questions. However, I do know enough to suggest that those two discussions might have been better discussed in separate threads. Also, your title suggested (to me) that you felt actual gear ratios were inflated.
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When I put together my gravel bike I went with 1X12 gearing before 1X12 was common on gravel bikes. All my bikes are 1X12 now.
What prompted my question was getting on my new MTB for the first time and thinking the chain must have fallen off. I was spinning like mad and not getting anywhere, I almost fell over, and it wasn't even in the lowest gear. There is a minimum speed that I can still maintain control and, at some point, the gearing gets so low that I can't pedal fast enough to maintain that minimum speed.
What prompted my question was getting on my new MTB for the first time and thinking the chain must have fallen off. I was spinning like mad and not getting anywhere, I almost fell over, and it wasn't even in the lowest gear. There is a minimum speed that I can still maintain control and, at some point, the gearing gets so low that I can't pedal fast enough to maintain that minimum speed.
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When I put together my gravel bike I went with 1X12 gearing before 1X12 was common on gravel bikes. All my bikes are 1X12 now.
What prompted my question was getting on my new MTB for the first time and thinking the chain must have fallen off. I was spinning like mad and not getting anywhere, I almost fell over, and it wasn't even in the lowest gear. There is a minimum speed that I can still maintain control and, at some point, the gearing gets so low that I can't pedal fast enough to maintain that minimum speed.
What prompted my question was getting on my new MTB for the first time and thinking the chain must have fallen off. I was spinning like mad and not getting anywhere, I almost fell over, and it wasn't even in the lowest gear. There is a minimum speed that I can still maintain control and, at some point, the gearing gets so low that I can't pedal fast enough to maintain that minimum speed.
I did the opposite... since I have some steep climbs on my MTB rides. So, I went from 32t to 30t with 10-50t. and can make the climbs I want these days.
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Depends on the bike for me...my enduro bike is heavier, I'm not racing it, and I'm riding steep terrain at high elevation on it, so 30t paired to a 10-50.
My XC bike is currently running a 34x10-50...if/when I go to Sram Transmission on that bike, it will have to run a 10x52 cassette, so I'm even thinking about going to a 36t chainring in that case.
My XC bike is currently running a 34x10-50...if/when I go to Sram Transmission on that bike, it will have to run a 10x52 cassette, so I'm even thinking about going to a 36t chainring in that case.
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Actually, the video is a good demonstration of what I'm talking about. The 32X51 low gear, on my new full suspension MTB, is so low I have a hard time pedaling fast enough to keep upright. If I was on a hill so steep that I needed that a gear that low I'd just get off and push.
But that's me. I wanted to know about you.
But that's me. I wanted to know about you.
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Actually, the video is a good demonstration of what I'm talking about. The 32X51 low gear, on my new full suspension MTB, is so low I have a hard time pedaling fast enough to keep upright. If I was on a hill so steep that I needed that a gear that low I'd just get off and push.
But that's me. I wanted to know about you.
But that's me. I wanted to know about you.
My bike came with a 12x w/30x51 and I flat love it. Trails around me typically have short punchy climbs, 10-20%+, with a few slightly longer 10-15% climbs of 150' elevation gain or so. Constant up/down, just about zero flat conditions - the extra gear range is awesome.
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When we started doing 1x for many good reasons, the range of the 42 tooth cassette alone with no front shifter was 4.2:1 with an xD driver or 3.9 with an HG. We tolerated this by deleting the lowest and the two highest speeds. We missed the lowest gear, which led to 12 speeds, which is where we've been for quite a while now. There are a few 13 speed systems but I don't think anyone is whining for more than 12, like they did loudly at 11
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I'm 72 and have had more than my share of surgeries, injuries and health issues. Some affecting my cycling abilities, like the open heart surgery.
At 6'1" (used to be 6'2") and 195 lbs. I'm, at least, 10 heavier than I'd like to be.
I'd say my cardio is compromised more than my muscle strength, though both aren't what they were when I was 25.
Lately, I've been trying to work out whether I'm better off working on my leg strength and pushing a bigger gear or working on my cardio and learning to spin a smaller gear.
Either way, I'm not sure I want to do or am capable of, a cadence much over 110.
Just wondering if that's weird.
At 6'1" (used to be 6'2") and 195 lbs. I'm, at least, 10 heavier than I'd like to be.
I'd say my cardio is compromised more than my muscle strength, though both aren't what they were when I was 25.
Lately, I've been trying to work out whether I'm better off working on my leg strength and pushing a bigger gear or working on my cardio and learning to spin a smaller gear.
Either way, I'm not sure I want to do or am capable of, a cadence much over 110.
Just wondering if that's weird.
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Actually, the video is a good demonstration of what I'm talking about. The 32X51 low gear, on my new full suspension MTB, is so low I have a hard time pedaling fast enough to keep upright. If I was on a hill so steep that I needed that a gear that low I'd just get off and push.
But that's me. I wanted to know about you.
But that's me. I wanted to know about you.
- If you have a hard time pedaling fast enough in a low gear you switch to a higher gear.
- Don't pedal in a low gear when going downhill.
- A steep hill is exactly why you have that low gear...so you don't have to get off and push.
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Mr RR, I'm in a somewhat similar situation and I think that the cardio component is the one that would be best (for me and I suspect for you) to improve. I think the strength will improve to a suitable level as the cardio is optimized. Just don't "over train" IMO.
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You're joking, right? Or you've missed the point.
I've been riding since 1960 and started riding with clubs in 1973, so I think I have a pretty good understanding of how gearing works.
I'm pretty sure I don't have a first generation Stumpjumper, since the fork crown is wrong, but I think I could have a second generation. I'm now on my fourth hardtail and my first full suspension. I've lost track of how many road bikes, gravel bikes, hybrids, etc., I've gone through, but do know I have four custom steel frames, starting with an REW Reynolds back in the mid seventies.
I've been around the block more than once.
I've been riding since 1960 and started riding with clubs in 1973, so I think I have a pretty good understanding of how gearing works.
I'm pretty sure I don't have a first generation Stumpjumper, since the fork crown is wrong, but I think I could have a second generation. I'm now on my fourth hardtail and my first full suspension. I've lost track of how many road bikes, gravel bikes, hybrids, etc., I've gone through, but do know I have four custom steel frames, starting with an REW Reynolds back in the mid seventies.
I've been around the block more than once.
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I'm not sure you do since nobody else is having trouble with 1x12 gearing on a mountain bike.
I have three mountain bikes with 1x12 and even lower gearing...28 x 52 or 30 x 52 depending on which one I grab. I've never experienced this and neither has anyone else I've known.
I have three mountain bikes with 1x12 and even lower gearing...28 x 52 or 30 x 52 depending on which one I grab. I've never experienced this and neither has anyone else I've known.

I have never really had pedaling problems.
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I'm not having trouble with 1X12 gearing. I love 1X12 gearing. I like it so much I even have it on my main road ride.
What I'm asking, and you don't seem to understand, is if others find that a 32X51 low gear, or any similarly low gear, is too low to be of use..
I find that, in order to maintain sufficient forward speed, I have to pedal faster than I care to or am capable of. There is a useable lower gear limit for just about everyone. For some, it might be 22X51. For me, it's something more than that.
What I'm asking, and you don't seem to understand, is if others find that a 32X51 low gear, or any similarly low gear, is too low to be of use..
I find that, in order to maintain sufficient forward speed, I have to pedal faster than I care to or am capable of. There is a useable lower gear limit for just about everyone. For some, it might be 22X51. For me, it's something more than that.
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I'm not having trouble with 1X12 gearing. I love 1X12 gearing. I like it so much I even have it on my main road ride.
What I'm asking, and you don't seem to understand, is if others find that a 32X51 low gear, or any similarly low gear, is too low to be of use..
I find that, in order to maintain sufficient forward speed, I have to pedal faster than I care to or am capable of. There is a useable lower gear limit for just about everyone. For some, it might be 22X51. For me, it's something more than that.
What I'm asking, and you don't seem to understand, is if others find that a 32X51 low gear, or any similarly low gear, is too low to be of use..
I find that, in order to maintain sufficient forward speed, I have to pedal faster than I care to or am capable of. There is a useable lower gear limit for just about everyone. For some, it might be 22X51. For me, it's something more than that.
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Let me take a different tack, since at least one person seems confused about my position.
I live in Colorado and, until comparatively recently, I was primarily a road cyclist.
I've ridden over most of the passes, in the state, at one time or another.
I've ridden up Mt. Evans a time or two and I've ridden up Trail Ridge Road many times.
I've ridden super Flagstaff, if any of you know what that is.
I don't think I've ever used a gear lower than 32T front by 28T rear.
A 1:1 gear ratio, like a 32X32 seems excessive to me. I'd rather grind it out in a bigger gear, even if I have to stand.
I realize, with the bigger tires on a 29er and the higher weight. I might go even a little lower than 1:1, but I just can't see needing or wanting a 32X51 low gear.
That's me. I was just wondering if I'm the only or if others feel that way too.
I live in Colorado and, until comparatively recently, I was primarily a road cyclist.
I've ridden over most of the passes, in the state, at one time or another.
I've ridden up Mt. Evans a time or two and I've ridden up Trail Ridge Road many times.
I've ridden super Flagstaff, if any of you know what that is.
I don't think I've ever used a gear lower than 32T front by 28T rear.
A 1:1 gear ratio, like a 32X32 seems excessive to me. I'd rather grind it out in a bigger gear, even if I have to stand.
I realize, with the bigger tires on a 29er and the higher weight. I might go even a little lower than 1:1, but I just can't see needing or wanting a 32X51 low gear.
That's me. I was just wondering if I'm the only or if others feel that way too.
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Let me take a different tack, since at least one person seems confused about my position.
I live in Colorado and, until comparatively recently, I was primarily a road cyclist.
I've ridden over most of the passes, in the state, at one time or another.
I've ridden up Mt. Evans a time or two and I've ridden up Trail Ridge Road many times.
I've ridden super Flagstaff, if any of you know what that is.
I don't think I've ever used a gear lower than 32T front by 28T rear.
A 1:1 gear ratio, like a 32X32 seems excessive to me. I'd rather grind it out in a bigger gear, even if I have to stand.
I realize, with the bigger tires on a 29er and the higher weight. I might go even a little lower than 1:1, but I just can't see needing or wanting a 32X51 low gear.
That's me. I was just wondering if I'm the only or if others feel that way too.
I live in Colorado and, until comparatively recently, I was primarily a road cyclist.
I've ridden over most of the passes, in the state, at one time or another.
I've ridden up Mt. Evans a time or two and I've ridden up Trail Ridge Road many times.
I've ridden super Flagstaff, if any of you know what that is.
I don't think I've ever used a gear lower than 32T front by 28T rear.
A 1:1 gear ratio, like a 32X32 seems excessive to me. I'd rather grind it out in a bigger gear, even if I have to stand.
I realize, with the bigger tires on a 29er and the higher weight. I might go even a little lower than 1:1, but I just can't see needing or wanting a 32X51 low gear.
That's me. I was just wondering if I'm the only or if others feel that way too.
You do you I guess but for someone who has been doing this a while to deny that having useful gearing is well useful just doesn't make sense. But I guess if all your time is on an extremely different surface it might be tough to change that mindset when you don't know it as well or at all.
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Mr RR, that should have been your first post, and it appears that you're more competent than many of those who responded. As above, try a bigger ring(s); each individual has his own breaking point.





