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Originally Posted by KonaRider24
And here I thought cross-chaining cause more mis-shifts and chain throws.
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If you want to do that why don't you just get a chain guide? You'll need a longer spindle anyways.
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Originally Posted by BoSoxYacht
Sorry Hank , why I do this is not open for debate . I do this because it works for me. If you don't like it , then don't do it . This thread is a question about a chainline and BBs , not an inquiry about proper shifting techniques. Your opinion has been heard by all .Thank you very much
So, if you do go ahead with this project you're going to need to pay close attention to the amount of clearance that you currently have between the teeth on your little ring and the chainstay bulge. If it's tight now, you have very little room to move the BB inboard.
Assuming that you have enough clearance, you also need to consider possible interference between the chain and your tire when riding in your lowest gear combo. This can definitely pose a problem, even with relatively narrow 2.1 xc-ish tires.
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The old white bros bb was adjustable, there are a few on ebay now and then, but I don't think you need one.
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Originally Posted by KonaRider24
If you want to do that why don't you just get a chain guide? You'll need a longer spindle anyways.
off subject, but, I'm totally with you on the no shimano, no sram thing, but what other brands would you use for derailleurs lets say.
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Originally Posted by KonaRider24
If you want to do that why don't you just get a chain guide? If you get the right one, it will be cheaper than a Phil Wood BB anyways.
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Originally Posted by mcoine
off subject, but, I'm totally with you on the no shimano, no sram thing, but what other brands would you use for derailleurs lets say.
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Originally Posted by KonaRider24
I'm a singlespeeder.
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Originally Posted by BoSoxYacht
I use front deraileurs because for my riding, I need them. I hate them , because they suck, but I still need them. Why would I want to make 2 shifts to get the ratio I want, when a click of the index finger will get me the gear ? As I said , "It works for me".
Remember this though even a longer BB spindle will effect how you ride and how the bike handles, every part on the bike except the grips have an effect.
You should try setting a singlespeed up, you'll find that a straight as possible chainline is king next to the proper chainlength. Also how do you know that you need all the gears, how many times do you really shift in the first place, you face less maitenance, the bike is quiet when being ridden and no real deraillieur lag to note.
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also if ur moving the entire crank over.. there might be some complications with front derailleur shifting... maybe not.... just throwing that in though
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Originally Posted by gmoneyhobbit
also if ur moving the entire crank over.. there might be some complications with front derailleur shifting... maybe not.... just throwing that in though
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Originally Posted by Hank Rearden
My, my, you're awfully touchy aren't you? The reason why I asked the questions is because your explanations don't make sense, froma mechanical standpoint or a riding standpoint.
So, if you do go ahead with this project you're going to need to pay close attention to the amount of clearance that you currently have between the teeth on your little ring and the chainstay bulge. If it's tight now, you have very little room to move the BB inboard.
Assuming that you have enough clearance, you also need to consider possible interference between the chain and your tire when riding in your lowest gear combo. This can definitely pose a problem, even with relatively narrow 2.1 xc-ish tires.
So, if you do go ahead with this project you're going to need to pay close attention to the amount of clearance that you currently have between the teeth on your little ring and the chainstay bulge. If it's tight now, you have very little room to move the BB inboard.
Assuming that you have enough clearance, you also need to consider possible interference between the chain and your tire when riding in your lowest gear combo. This can definitely pose a problem, even with relatively narrow 2.1 xc-ish tires.
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Originally Posted by BoSoxYacht
I have 1999 Shimano XT cranks + a shimano UN51 bb . is it possible to adjust the chainline w/this setup? the crossover gear( big to big ) is way off . When I'm in the granny gear I only use the 3 largest cogs , so I'd be happy to give up the 5 smaller cogs. If it's not possible , what square taper BB's are available with the ability to adjust the chanline?
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Originally Posted by BoSoxYacht
I've seen tons of your posts and I feel that you enjoy belittling people that don't agree with you .
"I think I may have been a little hard on Worldwind . He prolly doesn't get much conversation at work and needs a little banter ."
If questioning people's goofy, illogical "facts" or practices is belittling, then so be it.
Enjoy your long-chained, cross chaining setup!
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Originally Posted by gmoneyhobbit
also if ur moving the entire crank over.. there might be some complications with front derailleur shifting... maybe not.... just throwing that in though
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this is a derailleur adjustment issue it sounds like, not bb. the angle and height of the front der. is very important for the big ring.
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Originally Posted by Hank Rearden
Pot, kettle, black.
"I think I may have been a little hard on Worldwind . He prolly doesn't get much conversation at work and needs a little banter ."
If questioning people's goofy, illogical "facts" or practices is belittling, then so be it.
Enjoy your long-chained, cross chaining setup!
"I think I may have been a little hard on Worldwind . He prolly doesn't get much conversation at work and needs a little banter ."
If questioning people's goofy, illogical "facts" or practices is belittling, then so be it.
Enjoy your long-chained, cross chaining setup!
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i kno some one who only runs big ring up front .. 44 that is... with 11-34 rear.. i have said many times on rides its not too great... but hes at the level where it doesnt matter.. which is why hes shifting to a single ring 44 up front...
why dont u just go single ring in this case?
why dont u just go single ring in this case?
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Originally Posted by mcoine
can you post a picture of the setup?
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the 42x11 mashing is on a 6.5 mile (1800ft elevation) downhill. This only happens when I'm mashing the pedals ,not spinning it . It was said to point out how far away from the frame the set-up is . I'm not spinning that gear on flats.
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Originally Posted by mcoine
this is a derailleur adjustment issue it sounds like, not bb. the angle and height of the front der. is very important for the big ring.
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Originally Posted by KonaRider24
You should try setting a singlespeed up, you'll find that a straight as possible chainline is king next to the proper chainlength. Also how do you know that you need all the gears, how many times do you really shift in the first place, you face less maitenance, the bike is quiet when being ridden and no real deraillieur lag to note.
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Originally Posted by BoSoxYacht
when I put the front Der. on (Sram X-Gen) , the propaganda that came with it said something about the seatpost angle. Are there different front deraileurs depending on seat post angles ? there never used to be, but things change, I guess
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Originally Posted by mcoine
I was talking about the angle relative to the chain, like if you are looking from the top.