Originally Posted by Sixty Fiver

Start here:

https://surlybikes.com/bikes/pugsley

The Pugsley and it's many cousins are purpose built to run much wider rims and tyres that cannot be run in a standard frame... drop bars and their controls are my preferred set up on most bikes.

Sealed cartridge bearings in the hubs and bottom bracket are essential if you plan to get wet as is the use of frame saver to protect a steel frame from internal rust.

I picked up my Pug used at a great price and with the new freewheel in the back and what I would have had to pay for a custom rack (I build these) I am into this for less than 1K although buying a new Pugsley off the rack would cost double that but would still be cheaper than building it up from it's respective parts.

They really are a rather incredible ride and much more versatile than many people think... I live in a place where winter lasts over 6 months and the Pug really shines at this and is also great for adventuring and will handle terrain other bikes cannot.

Originally Posted by MrLucky

Thanks for the great reply, the pugsley sounds amazing! I looked around on ebay and gumtree but no sign of the pugsley! I did find this though, and it's near me is it worth it? https://bit.ly/14h1EBN. And thanks for the advice on the waterproof bit I'll be sure to go sealed cartridge! Are there any other similair bikes to the pugsley with that much wheel clearance? I've never seen wheels that thick to buy