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Old 11-25-10 | 06:06 PM
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Wow. Those 29er Bonty tires would suck balls for much of where I like to ride.

Try both, buy whichever you end up liking more. Anyhow, this thread will go just like all the prior 26 vs. 29 threads...

Gave a 29er with several setups for gearing, suspension/rigid, and geometry a good try and hated it. Yes, it rolls over stuff very well, and once up to speed just steamrolls right along. I very much disliked it for every other aspect of what and how I like to ride, however.

https://forums.mtbr.com/showthread.php?t=491856

Still open to the idea. If I were to get a test spin on a bike that felt as good to me on some of my usual trails as my 26" wheeled rides do, I'd likely buy one.

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Old 11-25-10 | 08:51 PM
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I'm giving your my opin. on what is my favorite tire. If you dont like it, dont buy it, and most certainly dont ***** about, becasue this a friggin bike forum, not a sandbox. Its your problem to see if the tire fits your needs.
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Old 11-25-10 | 10:06 PM
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Who's *****in'? I was pointing out the sillyness of saying that "this tire is best 'cuse I like it".
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Looks like there's a 26" version: https://bontrager.com/model/07797

If you're really concerned about lowering tire pressure, going tubeless will help you a lot more than the wheel size (which shouldn't effect how much pressure you can run).

I'll accept your point that they keep momentum longer and acceleration is something you have to get used to, but I'm going to contest your point that they jump well. How well a bike jumps is dependent on its geometry and its responsiveness. Beyond that, little wheels generally jump better since the bike is smaller and easier to throw around (if you need proof, watch what the guys on 20" BMX bikes can do). That's also why some jump bikes are 24" (and while some are 26", you pretty much never see a 29", other than the huge BMX bikes SE has out).
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Old 11-25-10 | 11:17 PM
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I'd listen to what '66 says, just because you like a certain tire doesn't mean everyone else will like it . I've tried the 26" wheeled version of said tire and found it to be awful. The handling on them isn't as dialed as compared to tires with a similar tread design(Kenda small block eight, Maxxis Larsen TT, DMR moto diggers.) Felt that the XR-1's when cornering felt flimsy. Durability wise, after a single hard session on them, had knobs that were close to being ripped off, only other tire I've managed to do this to were the dual compound Michelins.

As far as 29er's being good at jumping, I am yet to be sold on that, seeing first hand @ the pumptrack how cumbersome they are on there, especially on the jump lines.
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Old 11-26-10 | 12:26 AM
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Momentum is great if you're traveling in a straight line at a constant speed, but it's your worst enemy if you have to start, stop or change speed and direction frequently. It's the reason 26" bikes will always dominate the technical riding genere of mountain biking - downhill, dual slalom, freeride, obvserved trials and technical singletrack.

From an engineering standpoint, you always want the smallest, lightest and strongest wheel you can get away with. If a 26" wheeled bike isn't holding you back, there's no reason to go bigger.
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Old 11-26-10 | 07:27 AM
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I'm giving your my opin. on what is my favorite tire. If you dont like it, dont buy it, and most certainly dont ***** about, becasue this a friggin bike forum, not a sandbox. Its your problem to see if the tire fits your needs.
But what he (& most everyone else) is trying to tell you is that giving him advice on what the best tire is for you is completely useless unless you know for a fact that he rides the same kind of terrain the same way as you do.

So please, with your never-ending source of knowledge, tell me what the best tire would be for my style of riding based on the complete lack of information I've given you about myself & the trails I frequent.
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Old 11-26-10 | 07:46 AM
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Old 11-26-10 | 09:50 AM
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. . . and can go over much larger obstacles.
Wow. There's some guys on little wheels who can get over some pretty big stuff. So you're saying 29 inches can get me (proportionately) over even BIGGER stuff? Awesome! Sign me up.




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Oh wow! I think it's really awesome how you can suggest a tire just becuse you like it.
Heck, that's nuthin' - - I can recommend a tire just because a sponsor makes it .
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Old 11-26-10 | 12:23 PM
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Looks like there's a 26" version: https://bontrager.com/model/07797

If you're really concerned about lowering tire pressure, going tubeless will help you a lot more than the wheel size (which shouldn't effect how much pressure you can run).

I'll accept your point that they keep momentum longer and acceleration is something you have to get used to, but I'm going to contest your point that they jump well. How well a bike jumps is dependent on its geometry and its responsiveness. Beyond that, little wheels generally jump better since the bike is smaller and easier to throw around (if you need proof, watch what the guys on 20" BMX bikes can do). That's also why some jump bikes are 24" (and while some are 26", you pretty much never see a 29", other than the huge BMX bikes SE has out).
Sorry let me correct myself, they handle better after the jump, they keep you more stable
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Old 11-26-10 | 12:29 PM
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Sorry let me correct myself, they handle better after the jump, they keep you more stable
How so?
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I understand how tire width can affect stability..but I'm not so sure about tire diameter. Since when are taller objects MORE stable??
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Old 11-26-10 | 04:36 PM
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I understand how tire width can affect stability..but I'm not so sure about tire diameter. Since when are taller objects MORE stable??
Assuming that you are moving forward after your jump, you dont know how or where exactly where you will land, therefore the bigger tire will help you in the case that you land closer to a rock or ditch. Imagine jumping a scooter and a bmx. Which one will land better?
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Old 11-26-10 | 04:56 PM
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Assuming that you are moving forward after your jump, you dont know how or where exactly where you will land, therefore the bigger tire will help you in the case that you land closer to a rock or ditch. Imagine jumping a scooter and a bmx. Which one will land better?
So what you're really saying is that 29ers are for hacks who can't stick a landing with 26" wheels. Gotcha.

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you guys are having way to much fun picking that guy apart..
It's just the initiation for becoming a true member of the forum. We both still deal with it from select members (66 & 01 mostly).
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i thought SS was the new standard??
for some of us...
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Old 11-26-10 | 06:09 PM
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It's just the initiation for becoming a true member of the forum. We both still deal with it from select members (66 & 01 mostly).

That statement falsely implies you're a true forum member!
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Old 11-26-10 | 08:16 PM
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We both still deal with [the initiation] from select members
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Old 11-26-10 | 09:51 PM
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Originally Posted by freshandfly21
Sorry let me correct myself, they handle better after the jump, they keep you more stable
Classic!!!!!!
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Old 11-27-10 | 08:56 AM
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It's just the initiation for becoming a true member of the forum. We both still deal with it from select members (66 & 01 mostly).
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Old 11-27-10 | 10:57 AM
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False, It's getting called out for posting nonsense. Never and D do it on a regular basis.
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Old 11-27-10 | 11:35 AM
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But at least nonsense makes the forum entertaining. And everyone posting nonsense is getting off easy without Fagerlin here!
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We don't just get it for calling out nonsense. We get nitpicked. If a fellow veteran has a typo in a post or says something without foundation, it's overlooked & accepted as truth. If we do the same, we're called out to explain ourselves.

Here's an example right here:
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Flexy metals? Do tell.
Just waiting for an opportunity to call me out of giving advice even though I've only been on a mountain bike since early this year. If I didn't have a video to better explain the terminology I have yet to learn, others likely would have joined in on the fun.

Don't get me wrong, I see nothing wrong with calling out newbs when they start dishing out advice. We have no credibility for our advice to be accepted. I'm just saying a part of gaining credibility is getting called out on your BS, & that's exactly what happened to this guy.

And I agree with never. Without poking fun at people from time to time, we're no better than pre-Fagerlin mtbr.
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Everyone who posts something stupid should get called out. It just happens that newbies proportionally post more crap because of the lack of experience.
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Everyone who posts something stupid should get called out. It just happens that newbies proportionally post more crap because of the lack of experience.
Wurd! Suck it up Sammy.
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