26 in or 29er???
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Assuming that you are moving forward after your jump, you dont know how or where exactly where you will land, therefore the bigger tire will help you in the case that you land closer to a rock or ditch. Imagine jumping a scooter and a bmx. Which one will land better?
I call bull with your statement. If you don't know where you're going to land when dropping or jumping, then you better think twice about hitting that because you could land said front wheel in that ditch and regardless of wheel size you are on the ground.
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We're definitely no better than pre-Fagerlin BFnet though. A punk fo sho but kept the BS down a bit. This thread is a joke in itself. OP...use the search function and prepare to read 300 of the same silly topic.
29'er dude...quit trying to convince yourself that you made the right choice by buying a big wheeled bike.
Both of you need to be more specific...like maybe the OP could say "Hey...what size wheels will scoot along Midwest hardpack better." And the 29er guy says "Well for traversing rolling terrain with small to medium size rocks in the trail...the larger wheels will keep your momentum up...but for something like Mountain Biking...with switchbacks, shelf drops, log jumps, trials'y technical climbs...I wouldn't know because I don't do that."
29'er dude...quit trying to convince yourself that you made the right choice by buying a big wheeled bike.
Both of you need to be more specific...like maybe the OP could say "Hey...what size wheels will scoot along Midwest hardpack better." And the 29er guy says "Well for traversing rolling terrain with small to medium size rocks in the trail...the larger wheels will keep your momentum up...but for something like Mountain Biking...with switchbacks, shelf drops, log jumps, trials'y technical climbs...I wouldn't know because I don't do that."
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. . . or any of those "crazy jumps or drops."
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Don't get me wrong, I see nothing wrong with calling out newbs when they start dishing out advice. We have no credibility for our advice to be accepted. I'm just saying a part of gaining credibility is getting called out on your BS, & that's exactly what happened to this guy.
Oh wait...I just did.
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Another 26" vs 29" thread for the books.
OP, why not ask what is the better religion for your next thread? Christianity vs Judaism vs Islamic? I'm sure there will me much less debate over that one.
OP, why not ask what is the better religion for your next thread? Christianity vs Judaism vs Islamic? I'm sure there will me much less debate over that one.
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We're definitely no better than pre-Fagerlin BFnet though. A punk fo sho but kept the BS down a bit. This thread is a joke in itself. OP...use the search function and prepare to read 300 of the same silly topic.
29'er dude...quit trying to convince yourself that you made the right choice by buying a big wheeled bike.
Both of you need to be more specific...like maybe the OP could say "Hey...what size wheels will scoot along Midwest hardpack better." And the 29er guy says "Well for traversing rolling terrain with small to medium size rocks in the trail...the larger wheels will keep your momentum up...but for something like Mountain Biking...with switchbacks, shelf drops, log jumps, trials'y technical climbs...I wouldn't know because I don't do that."
29'er dude...quit trying to convince yourself that you made the right choice by buying a big wheeled bike.
Both of you need to be more specific...like maybe the OP could say "Hey...what size wheels will scoot along Midwest hardpack better." And the 29er guy says "Well for traversing rolling terrain with small to medium size rocks in the trail...the larger wheels will keep your momentum up...but for something like Mountain Biking...with switchbacks, shelf drops, log jumps, trials'y technical climbs...I wouldn't know because I don't do that."
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Wow you are to smart for this forum. After reading all of the posts in this thread I realized I just wasted to much of my time. Thanks for your post it was the only one that made any sense. Why doesn't everybody beat up the new guy that asked the question? I guess the only way not to be a newbie is to post a lot of bs comments.
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Then, by feeling compelled to post a reply, you wasted a lot of other people's time.
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Quit wasting my time, D.
Ya know...I typed that reply on my phone with a virtual keyboard...took the better part of an afternoon. I was really committed to that whizdumb you just trashed. If you read between the lines, you will see that advice number one was spot on. Regarding the second bit of advice...minus the sarcasm...spot on again. People seem to forget that there are different styles of riding and different types of trails. Without knowing this very pertinent info, the thread is a giant waste of everyones time.
Wow you are to smart for this forum. After reading all of the posts in this thread I realized I just wasted to much of my time. Thanks for your post it was the only one that made any sense. Why doesn't everybody beat up the new guy that asked the question? I guess the only way not to be a newbie is to post a lot of bs comments.
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Wow you are to smart for this forum. After reading all of the posts in this thread I realized I just wasted to much of my time. Thanks for your post it was the only one that made any sense. Why doesn't everybody beat up the new guy that asked the question? I guess the only way not to be a newbie is to post a lot of bs comments.
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I mean, I assume if Gary Fisher logged on to BF and gave advice, it wouldn't be worth anything because he would be a BF newbie.
I thought you MTBers were supposed to be more lax than the roadies, but you guys seem to be more of the same BFers. 'If you haven't reached 3,000 posts, you don't know anything - don't give your advice'. The guy likes a certain tire and said he recommends it - he didn't break down what kind of riding! I have an idea: look at the tire, see if it fits your type of riding, if it does, you know someone that will vouch for it.
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Very good. And Gary Fisher has logged on here before. I think he had like 19 posts before we figured out it was him...
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Just curious - how many posts/how much time would one have to invest in BF before they 'had a clue'?
I mean, I assume if Gary Fisher logged on to BF and gave advice, it wouldn't be worth anything because he would be a BF newbie.
I thought you MTBers were supposed to be more lax than the roadies, but you guys seem to be more of the same BFers. 'If you haven't reached 3,000 posts, you don't know anything - don't give your advice'.
I mean, I assume if Gary Fisher logged on to BF and gave advice, it wouldn't be worth anything because he would be a BF newbie.
I thought you MTBers were supposed to be more lax than the roadies, but you guys seem to be more of the same BFers. 'If you haven't reached 3,000 posts, you don't know anything - don't give your advice'.
That's the issue...many less experienced riders can't look at a tire and determine if it meets their riding requirements. Across the board recommendations for certain components (like tires) don't work and that is what the "discussion" is highlighting.
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If I were to say I love my Giant Anthem and recommend it to anyone! I wouldn't expect a roadie to go out and get one. I would expect the people that are looking for an XC MTB to take it into consideration and look at it - based on the fact that there has now been a user testimonial about that product. Saying I like something and recommend it does not mean I think everyone with every biking need should get it because I happen to like it. I think if his posts were read with any charity, the same could be said for them. I'll respectfully bow out now.
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Funny, I rarely if ever note anyone's post count. Bad advice and dumb statements don't need a number to be seen for what they are.
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I get your point, but you all are being excessively hard on a guy that is trying to offer some help to a question that was directed at personal preference. His preference is X,Y, and Z for application V.
If I were to say I love my Giant Anthem and recommend it to anyone! I wouldn't expect a roadie to go out and get one. I would expect the people that are looking for an XC MTB to take it into consideration and look at it - based on the fact that there has now been a user testimonial about that product. Saying I like something and recommend it does not mean I think everyone with every biking need should get it because I happen to like it. I think if his posts were read with any charity, the same could be said for them. I'll respectfully bow out now.
If I were to say I love my Giant Anthem and recommend it to anyone! I wouldn't expect a roadie to go out and get one. I would expect the people that are looking for an XC MTB to take it into consideration and look at it - based on the fact that there has now been a user testimonial about that product. Saying I like something and recommend it does not mean I think everyone with every biking need should get it because I happen to like it. I think if his posts were read with any charity, the same could be said for them. I'll respectfully bow out now.
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I'm really trying to piece together why you're so hard to get along with. Maybe you should offer a little charity to others when reading/responding instead of being the arrogant elitist you're coming off as. Just a thought - you may want to enroll in a Dale Carnegie course. I'll buy it if you'll read it.
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I can see your point. But if a new mountain biker with an unknown amount of knowledge on the different styles of mountain biking & corresponding components is asking for recommendations, it's pretty common sense to first ask where they're located, what the trails are like, etc. before recommending a bike. It's like going to a car dealership looking for a sedan & before the salesman even asks you what you're looking for, he tells you that a purpose-built Wrangler rock climber would be perfect for you.
Oh, and thanks for being civil. You're just the kind of person I expected in the MTB forum. Opinionated, but nice.
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Inferiority complex? Did you get picked on in school? Did your mother not hug you enough?
I'm really trying to piece together why you're so hard to get along with. Maybe you should offer a little charity to others when reading/responding instead of being the arrogant elitist you're coming off as. Just a thought - you may want to enroll in a Dale Carnegie course. I'll buy it if you'll read it.
I'm really trying to piece together why you're so hard to get along with. Maybe you should offer a little charity to others when reading/responding instead of being the arrogant elitist you're coming off as. Just a thought - you may want to enroll in a Dale Carnegie course. I'll buy it if you'll read it.
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taken to the logical end, you're right, that would be bone-headed. But try to see it this way; the guy asked for 26 or 29er advice to sway his decision. Taking the car salesman analogy, I would say he came to the dealership and said, 'should I get the 2wd truck or the 4wd jeep'. In this case, we can assume certain things - follow-up questions can narrow and limit the answers, but if I own a Rubicon that I love for many reasons and think you can't go wrong with it - I'm recommending the jeep. I see both sides, but I suppose I just choose to be more friendly and not try to read too much in advice on forums. I take it for what it is worth and in the end make my own decision - weighing that N number of people on the internet forum who may/may not actually ride said this.
Oh, and thanks for being civil. You're just the kind of person I expected in the MTB forum. Opinionated, but nice.
Oh, and thanks for being civil. You're just the kind of person I expected in the MTB forum. Opinionated, but nice.
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Haven't paid attention to any of his posts other than that one. But what he said wasn't the nicest and I wouldn't say would win him any friendship contests.