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#51
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'The ultimate goal of bicycle-sharing is to expand and integrate cycling into transportation systems, so that it can more readily become a daily transportation mode.... In general, the rationale for introducing bicycle-sharing is to promote cycling, increase mobility choices, improve air quality and reduce congestion. It is also seen as a means to promote the viability of public transport by providing an “extension service” for the “first/last mile” - the distance which many consider to be too far to walk between home and public transport and/or public transport and the workplace.'
That's why the bike is not equipped with a rack: it's not meant for grocery shopping or other utility use.
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From: Portland OR
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I think mis-use is also a concern.
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NY Daily News: Citi Bike bicycle share program in NYC, the nation’s largest, a success 3 weeks in
I had no idea that cloudy weather could affect the solar batteries causing docking and undocking problems. With all its skyscrapers in Manhattan, can the problem be ever solved? This is still summer, what will happen in the winter?
One small disappointment, according to the wikipedia, it will only expand to south of 79th street.
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I had no idea that cloudy weather could affect the solar batteries causing docking and undocking problems. With all its skyscrapers in Manhattan, can the problem be ever solved? This is still summer, what will happen in the winter?

One small disappointment, according to the wikipedia, it will only expand to south of 79th street.
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#54
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I figured an update was appropriate at this time. I had experienced some issues with inoperative or malfunctioning bike docks either upon check out or return. They seem to have figured out their problems and the experience has been relatively trouble free this week.
There was a news story about how lack of light to recharge the batteries was causing issues for certain docking stations due to location or weather and how they were addressing the problem in the short term by swapping out the batteries with fully charged ones.
Hopefully that was all there was to the issues and going forward they will either upgrade the solar collector and/or battery for the docking stations that were experiencing these issues.
I'm very happy with the program so far - trading a subway ride for a bike ride has done wonders for my energy levels at work.
There was a news story about how lack of light to recharge the batteries was causing issues for certain docking stations due to location or weather and how they were addressing the problem in the short term by swapping out the batteries with fully charged ones.
Hopefully that was all there was to the issues and going forward they will either upgrade the solar collector and/or battery for the docking stations that were experiencing these issues.
I'm very happy with the program so far - trading a subway ride for a bike ride has done wonders for my energy levels at work.
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I rented 24-hour Citi bike more than 10 days ago. My credit card still hasn't shown any charge for that, although the $101 hold is still there. They need to check their software system to fix any possible bug that may have resulted in free rental to many users.
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1 million miles logged by NYC bike share users
Wonder if they have all been actually charged on the credit cards?
(cf. my post above. Two weeks now, and I haven't been charged for the 24 hour rental)
"City officials said this weekend that the miles are being racked up mostly by more than 100,000 people who have signed up for daily, weekly or annual rides." Mostly? Who else could have used them?
Wonder if they have all been actually charged on the credit cards?
(cf. my post above. Two weeks now, and I haven't been charged for the 24 hour rental)"City officials said this weekend that the miles are being racked up mostly by more than 100,000 people who have signed up for daily, weekly or annual rides." Mostly? Who else could have used them?
#57
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From: Portland OR
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I signed up for the annual pass, and am waiting for my plastic key thingy to arrive. Hope it shows up before my next biz trip to NYC.
#58
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I got my key today, I signed up on the 13th. I'll give it a try tomorrow unless I decide to take my own bike.
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It took a week but finally had a chance to take one for a spin last night, and then rode in to work this morning on one.
My impressions:
A little unstable with weight on the bars
The bar basket is too small even for my modest messenger bag with a Macbook Air inside
The gearing is too low. I used the lowest gear going up the Manhattan bridge, but I was trying not to get sweaty on a humid day. (it didn't work!)
They otherwise ride pretty nicely.
Since I already paid I guess I'll use it fairly frequently, but it won't replace my regular bikes (3 road, 2mtbs).
My impressions:
A little unstable with weight on the bars
The bar basket is too small even for my modest messenger bag with a Macbook Air inside
The gearing is too low. I used the lowest gear going up the Manhattan bridge, but I was trying not to get sweaty on a humid day. (it didn't work!)
They otherwise ride pretty nicely.
Since I already paid I guess I'll use it fairly frequently, but it won't replace my regular bikes (3 road, 2mtbs).
#60
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Gears too low? That's an unusual criticism. Maybe you're a masher? I find most bikes geared too high, and I consider myself more masher than spinner.
Anyway, you know the design constraints the bikes had. I think they did a great job, though I should say I haven't ridden one yet. I'm very glad to see them used so much, though. I'm moving to NYC in about August, so I'll buy a membership then.
Anyway, you know the design constraints the bikes had. I think they did a great job, though I should say I haven't ridden one yet. I'm very glad to see them used so much, though. I'm moving to NYC in about August, so I'll buy a membership then.
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#61
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Gears too low? That's an unusual criticism. Maybe you're a masher? I find most bikes geared too high, and I consider myself more masher than spinner.
Anyway, you know the design constraints the bikes had. I think they did a great job, though I should say I haven't ridden one yet. I'm very glad to see them used so much, though. I'm moving to NYC in about August, so I'll buy a membership then.
Anyway, you know the design constraints the bikes had. I think they did a great job, though I should say I haven't ridden one yet. I'm very glad to see them used so much, though. I'm moving to NYC in about August, so I'll buy a membership then.
The sticky weather didn't help. I was dripping wet on both rides I took, and wearing jeans and a cotton shirt. When I try this again I'll wear a wicking shirt, and wait for a drier day.
#62
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An update of sorts. I haven't had any major issues removing or returning any bikes lately. Had some issues with the deraileur on one or two but generally a positive experience. I just checked my account and it appears as if they may be having software issues or at least database issues. My "trip library" has been wiped clean and it says "you have not taken any trips yet."
Oh - I agree that 1st gear is all but useless - maybe in San Fran but I can't spin that fast without getting too sweaty. I mostly use 3rd gear except up the incline going over the Brooklyn Bridge when I use 2nd.
Oh - I agree that 1st gear is all but useless - maybe in San Fran but I can't spin that fast without getting too sweaty. I mostly use 3rd gear except up the incline going over the Brooklyn Bridge when I use 2nd.
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As a Vancouver taxpayer, I'm just waiting until next year for our turn to get hosed by this money-losing feel-good scheme. I see Montreal had to pony up over ONE HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS to keep Bixi afloat. At least you have Citi bank as a sponsor.
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Edit to add - farebox revenue is @ 38% of the cost to operate the mass transit system in the NYC metro area.
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Encountered my first empty bike dock today. I needed to walk a few blocks to the next one where I was able to proceed as usual. I don't know if it's a sign that it's becoming more popular or if they are slacking off on their bike rebalancing efforts. Hopefully it's the former and they will be tweaking the rebalancing to address the issue.
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The rebalancing proves to be an essential part of the service. I'm waiting to hear more stories about it. It's sort-of equivalent to how frequently the 1 train arrives at the platform at rush hour.
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#73
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1- If I walk to the next subway station it's just as likely that I will have to wait for the subway there as well

2 - If it's 100 degrees at street level - it's an easy 10 degrees hotter on the subway platform. To experience either the Wall St 2/3 platform or the Union Square station during the 5th day of a heatwave like NYC had last week is truly something to be avoided at all costs if possible.
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There was a quick news item on WNYC this morning about the kiosks running out of bikes by 8am or so by Penn Station.
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Oh well - only almost a 1 month lag on returning email.




