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Old 09-11-10, 09:11 PM
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When I have a brevet, or a long scheduled ride, I will hope the map is posted so I can build it on www.Veloroutes.org. Then, I download it as a TCX file, then move it to the courses folder on the 500. Then, when you turn it on, you then go to the Training/Do Courses. It converts it to a .fit file, then it will half-ass guide you.
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Originally Posted by ls01
doesnt mattr those rankings are meaningless.
this is a review. really.

Drugs, drugs, and more drugs. Want to talk to a meth head? This is the place to go.

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Originally Posted by ijen0311
I was wondering where you've been.
Chillin, as always.
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Originally Posted by bike_boy
Yes, you can buy the accesories later such as the HR strap, speed/cadence sensor. You can also but the map preloaded on on a microSD card or buy your own microSD card and purchase via download MAPs from Garmin. Thew microSD card must remain in unit for unit to use map data. The unit will have its own internal memory for saving your ride data
and any courses (routes) you upload. Your ride/history data can later be downloaded to Garmin Training Center (free) on a PC or GarminConnect website (free) or other ride analyzing software ($) such as SportTracks.

The options for above accessories are already in unit firmware and can be turned on/off by you.

Ok so which units can do maps or any navigation?
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Originally Posted by ls01
So more or less, "I'm on and functioning" kind of prompt?
Yes. As ijen stated, "Heart Rate Monitor Detected" and "Cadence Sensor Detected". I imagine it would say the same for a Powertap.
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Originally Posted by LAJ
Yes. As ijen stated, "Heart Rate Monitor Detected" and "Cadence Sensor Detected". I imagine it would say the same for a Powertap.
It does.
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Originally Posted by shovelhd
Not true with the 800. Different packages.

You don't need Garmin maps, there are free open source maps which do a good enough job on the little screen if you really need the GPS maps on the bike. I use them on my 705 in case I don't know exactly which turn the 705 wants me to take. It does not announce turns, it beeps and flashes "turn left", "straight", etc. The route is highlighted in purple.
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Originally Posted by ijen0311
this is a review. really.

Drugs, drugs, and more drugs. Want to talk to a meth head? This is the place to go.

Good cheeseburger!


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Yeah,I dont need a map or a review to show me the way to that kind of trouble. I think we were refering to different kinds of health dept reviews.
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Originally Posted by LAJ
Yes. As ijen stated, "Heart Rate Monitor Detected" and "Cadence Sensor Detected". I imagine it would say the same for a Powertap.
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Originally Posted by ls01
Ok so which units can do maps or any navigation?
I believe that would be the Garmin Edge 605, 705, 800 models.

The 800 is the newest has has largest screen has a touch screen; kinda looks like an oversized 500 with 705 features. It has a new HR strap where you can remove the trasmitter to wash/soak strap.
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Originally Posted by LAJ
When I have a brevet, or a long scheduled ride, I will hope the map is posted so I can build it on www.Veloroutes.org. Then, I download it as a TCX file, then move it to the courses folder on the 500. Then, when you turn it on, you then go to the Training/Do Courses. It converts it to a .fit file, then it will half-ass guide you.
Wait, really? Mr. TS keeps got himself off course today. I wonder if he knows this.
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Originally Posted by bike_boy
I believe that would be the Garmin Edge 605, 705, 800 models.

The 800 is the newest has has largest screen has a touch screen; kinda looks like an oversized 500 with 705 features. It has a new HR strap where you can remove the trasmitter to wash/soak strap.
You're not supposed to wash it with the transmitter on....?
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Originally Posted by ijen0311
You're not supposed to wash it with the transmitter on....?
If it's the "soft strap" you can swim with it on, so you're ok. If it's the one where the whole front is plastic, it's not meant to be put underwater.
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Originally Posted by truckstop
Wait, really? Mr. TS keeps got himself off course today. I wonder if he knows this.
More and more maps are being built on numerous sites. I prefer to build my own, but they are out there. Just need to download the file with the proper extension. I tried MapMy Ride, and Bikeroutetoaster, but had little success saving it to the Garmin.
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If it's the "soft strap" you can swim with it on, so you're ok. If it's the one where the whole front is plastic, it's not meant to be put underwater.
I've washed it under running water. Crud.
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Originally Posted by ijen0311
You're not supposed to wash it with the transmitter on....?
I give my 705 HR strap a sponge bath !
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Originally Posted by ijen0311
I've washed it under running water. Crud.
Rubbing Alcohol and a cotton pad.
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I'll jump in here on the Garmins...

The most recent (until next month's release of the 800) is the 500. The 500 is for those who don't want to do turn-by-turn directions on their bike computer. The 500 doesn't display maps like most car GPS units. That said, you can download a course from places like mapmyride, biketoaster, ridewithgps, etc. to the 500 and it will display the course, upcoming turns (without much info) and will alert you when you're off the course. The screen on the 500 is monochrome, so you don't get the fancy display of the 705. Also the 500 doesn't have any type of card slot for map cards, etc. You're limited to the amount of memory onboard.

Garmin says the 500 battery will last about 15 hours. I've never run mine that long, but I have used it for over 10 hours and still had over 25% left on it. The 500 comes in a couple of configurations. The base unit is just the main unit itself, and MSRP is $250. If that's all you get, then the unit will use GPS to determine the speed and distance. The other configuration contains the main unit, a heart rate monitor/strap, and a speed/cadence sensor. This package has a MSRP of about $350. If you look around, of course, you can find both packages for much less. Also be aware that you can buy the base unit, and then pickup the HRM and speed/cadence sensor for less than $100, so that may be a better way to go.

The Garmin units use a wireless communications protocol called ANT+. This allows the head unit, the heart rate monitor, and the speed/cadence sensor to talk with each other wirelessly. It also works with power meters that use ANT+. Any previous Garmin that uses ANT+ will work with the 500. So if you have a speed/cadence sensor from a 305, 405, etc. you won't need another one for the 500. Same with the HRM.

However the HRM is getting a little more complicated. Garmin originally used a one-piece HRM that included the strap and transmitter sewn together. This worked pretty well but many felt it was pretty uncomfortable. Garmin (within the past year) released an updated version they called the PREMIUM HRM. It consisted of two pieces. The strap, and a puck-like transmitter unit that snaps on the strap. This is more comfortable, but the strap is subject to stretch marks if you stretch to its limit, which is necessary for some of us with larger chests. Now, with the release of the 800 next month, there will be a NEW PREMIUM HRM/strap combo. That strap is a little wider and looks suspiciously like the Polar strap that comes with their HRM units. NOTE: THE POLAR AND GARMIN HRMS ARE NOT COMPATIBLE. The NEW PREMIUM uses the same transmitter puck, so if you have the old PREMIUM HRM, you may be able to purchase the NEW PREMIUM strap separately.

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good info thanks to all. I will likely re examine this question from time to time, until I jump or decide not to.
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Eh, they're made to get sweaty and damp. You're probably ok as long as you weren't soaking it.
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Originally Posted by truckstop
Eh, they're made to get sweaty and damp. You're probably ok as long as you weren't soaking it.
That's what I've always figured. I didn't submerge it.
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You're going to want to get the soft strap one anyway for triathlons.
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Originally Posted by truckstop
You're going to want to get the soft strap one anyway for triathlons.
Yeah. Justin uses a Polar one that he seems to have better luck with...

And sorry. I do have the soft strap one. It just has that hard plate in the front.
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Dang chasmm. Nice job!
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Originally Posted by ijen0311
Yeah. Justin uses a Polar one that he seems to have better luck with...

And sorry. I do have the soft strap one. It just has that hard plate in the front.
Yep - that's the one that you can swim with, so you're fine.
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