ruokie being jewish for the jokes offends me as a comedian.

As I stated earlier the Jewish people are a people/family/clan/etc., so you can be Jewish and still be an atheist. Or some would say a non-observant Jew.

It's not like being, say, christian or muslim, you can't be a christian atheist or a muslim atheist.

My Hindu friend from college told me that you can be an atheist Hindu, though.

I knew what VV was referring to before you posted the link. One of my favorite Seinfelds.

weird theological discussion going on here. serious and silly at the same time. I'm dizzy. And I have finished my last patient. I am going home to make a NY style cheesecake for the Christmas Eve party I'm going to tomorrow night. (how about THAT for hypocracy) My friend who's house we are going to cooks a whole beef tenderloin, lots of good wine. Appetizers of smoked salmon, smoked trout, and lots of chips/dips, and then creme brule and my cheesecake.

Coasting, we will even have poppers and the silly hats that come inside them (we are required to wear them for dinner). And we "dress" for dinner (suit/tie)

Poppers?!?? Is this some kind of orgy? Or a Rave??

People are using the holidays as an excuse to become fat.

Velo Vol shall remain lean and mean.

It's blubber blanket to keep warm in the winter

seinfeld is a great philosopher. every serious discussion could be illustrated by a seinfeld episode.

I never gain weight at the holidays (or any other time of the year).

Moderation and cycling keeps me at 145....last time I checked I lost 2 pounds and down to 143.

Crap. I'm going to my cousins graduation party tonight which is combined with some family friends of ours. The daughters of the family friends are the most narcissistic, self-proclaimed goddesses you will ever meet. I always have to be on my best behaviour as to not burst their bubble in a blunt way; cheeky side comments are fine though since they fly right over their conflated heads

I think the issue is the "real" jews have said you (in the general way meaning atheists grown up in a jewish home) are not a real jewish person. therein lying the "issue"

Even non practicing are "lost sheep" or something aren't they?

are they hot?

Can you bring a good book to read?!?

They're not ugly. They're just hunts. You know, with a c

Replace book with liter of Jack and we're on the same page.

very pretty. why not take a cheesecake to win them over?

I'd rather hump a blender than win them over

Sounds like fun.

Nice. I like this.

this is why blr is a better person than i am.

i have a rather trying day tomorrow too. family friends too. best behaviour. no lewd jokes.

What are you going to do. Is it a sober get together?

anyone know what they are getting for Xmas?

dinner. over eat. i don't drink much these days anyway but a few glasses of mulled wine would be nice.

Oh, come on. Take out your pin. Make them into party poppers.

Why not? I wouldn't be able to survive the holidays.