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cavernmech 06-09-08 07:08 AM


Originally Posted by shapelike (Post 6846004)
1x9 or a full drivetrain? I'm going to try to get a 1x9 "kit" together next season that I can quickly put on the bike for really hilly days. I can guess which company you'll opt for but I'll probably just go XT/XT and run full housing to keep things simple.

PS. So ... the new Dura-Ace is going to have a chain with a master link. That M.L. is also going to be backwards compatible w/ other Shimano chains. That is all.

I run a 1X9 SRAM set-up. 32 ring with an 11-34 cassette. If you have slotted cable stops you don't need full housing...you can pull it off without dis-connecting anything as long as you have an open cable guide under the B.B. The SRAM works well for me also as I can remove the shifters from the bars without taking the grips off...I use a little dohickey that lets me use the same clamp for both brake levers and shifter.

With the amount of broken *****mano chains I have seen at the races, I will never put one on my bike again. SRAM, KMC and Wipperman all use master links also. I prefer the SRAM.

YYZRider 06-09-08 07:46 AM


Originally Posted by cupcrazy4 (Post 6844883)
anybody got a set of speedplay pedals I can try out? I want to upgrade my Shimano M505 stock pedals and speedplay's got good reviews. I'm not sure how I'll handle the free float though...

The free float takes some getting used to, though it's a big help if you have knee issues like I do.

I went from Look (red cleats) to Speedplay Zeros on my road bike and had a bit of a learning curve to keep my feet from waggling back and forth when sprinting. I don't know how they'd feel on my fg.

As for getting out, the action is pretty easy on the Zeros. I have the float adjusted relatively low, so they disengage at about the same point as my Looks did.

The only quasi-PITA is the break in/maintenance thing. The cleats are STIFF for the first few rides. Clicking in is...challenging until they loosen up a bit. Dry lube on the cleats (which are barely walkable - covers are a must) frequently. Every so many months/miles, you're supposed to grease the pedals.

All in all it's really not so bad, but they're definitely more needy than other pedals I've used. And only being able to get out of them to the outside may be a drawback.

shapelike 06-09-08 07:54 AM


Originally Posted by cavernmech (Post 6846345)
With the amount of broken *****mano chains I have seen at the races, I will never put one on my bike again. SRAM, KMC and Wipperman all use master links also. I prefer the SRAM.

I'm willing to bet (once, at least) that most of those broken chains are due to people glazing over the instructions, not using the replacement pins properly and basically just ****ing up their own chains. As for factory installed chains, well if that's the case then Shimano really has no excuse.

Edit: add to my speculation, how many of those chains previously had a pin pushed out/back in w/ no replacement?

*shrugs*

MattRennick 06-09-08 08:06 AM


Originally Posted by cavernmech (Post 6846296)
+1 on Time.

I picked up some Time RXT shoes at Curbside this weekend for $10

I don't yet have a clipless set up on my bike - maybe if I get a road bike or build a dedicated distance and/or track bike then I'll throw them on but for daily riding in the city I think I'll stick with clips / straps.

Either way, for $10 I figured I couldn't go wrong!

TRaffic Jammer 06-09-08 08:25 AM

Give Time your time. So what's all going on this week for CWMC... I'll be taking the kids to the island on Sunday.

cavernmech 06-09-08 08:29 AM


Originally Posted by shapelike (Post 6846486)
I'm willing to bet (once, at least) that most of those broken chains are due to people glazing over the instructions, not using the replacement pins properly and basically just ****ing up their own chains. As for factory installed chains, well if that's the case then Shimano really has no excuse.

Edit: add to my speculation, how many of those chains previously had a pin pushed out/back in w/ no replacement?

*shrugs*

The ratio of broken chains (and I always ask people when I see them with a busted chain what brand) are at least 4-1 in *****manos disfavour. I will concede that some of these are no doubt poor maintenance and assembly, but there have been many that were factory or installed by competent wrenches. Their chains suck...at least for off-road.

ctfinnigan 06-09-08 08:38 AM


Originally Posted by Flimflam (Post 6846118)
Plenty of people in/around town that ride fixed, for a more "official" pickup ride/hang out, keep on the look out here for DSR/Devil Strip Roller rides (it'll be sprints this week I think, even if you don't run it's a good hang out) or checkout www.devilstriprollers.com for news/updates. Because of CMWC, Sprints should be huge this week!

I don't ride much socially but have enjoyed the DSR group rides and sprint events, my personal schedule and working in Whitby get in the way a lot :p

The big news of the week (month?) is that it's bike month AND the week coming up to the CMWC (Cycle Messenger World Championships) so fixed or not, it's a great time to be on a bike.

City bike calendar: http://wx.toronto.ca/inter/uds/cycli...vents?OpenView
CMWC 2008 website: http://www.cmwc2008.com (check out events)

Keep your eyes peeled for more stuff, search on facebook for CWMC - there's a few side-events and movie screenings/stuff going on that aren't on the official event list.

As for solo riding, checkout the Martin Goodman Trail (not so great in peak hours, but when it's quiet traffic-wise, it's a great run) - that's the path that runs along the Lakeshore. Check out the valleys, some nice scenic runs (can be busy traffic wise on the sunny days) - Don right from Edwards Gardens (Bridal Path) right down to Lakeshore/Lower Don Road and the Humber valley you can go from Steeles/back down. Get yourself a city bike route map, some of those routes aren't so bad - you'll also get to see how incomplete and mis-matched/badly planned some of them are :p I personally ride a lot on my own due to transportation and I love riding my bike.

Thanks for the tips. I heard about DSR yesterday and I'm definitely going to try to make it out to some of their events. I'm also going to be going to the island on Sunday to check out the CMWC. So excited. I've been in Toronto for four years but I've never gone to the island before, so it should be a realy exciting day.
Right now, since I'm pretty unexperienced on my FG I'm sticking to neighbourhoods I know well, staying close to home (which for me is College/Bathurst area) but as I get my legs going I'm definitely going to be on the lookout for some of those longer paths you mentioned. Thanks again!

cavit8 06-09-08 09:14 AM


Originally Posted by YYZRider (Post 6846468)
The free float takes some getting used to, though it's a big help if you have knee issues like I do.

I went from Look (red cleats) to Speedplay Zeros on my road bike and had a bit of a learning curve to keep my feet from waggling back and forth when sprinting. I don't know how they'd feel on my fg.

As for getting out, the action is pretty easy on the Zeros. I have the float adjusted relatively low, so they disengage at about the same point as my Looks did.

The only quasi-PITA is the break in/maintenance thing. The cleats are STIFF for the first few rides. Clicking in is...challenging until they loosen up a bit. Dry lube on the cleats (which are barely walkable - covers are a must) frequently. Every so many months/miles, you're supposed to grease the pedals.

All in all it's really not so bad, but they're definitely more needy than other pedals I've used. And only being able to get out of them to the outside may be a drawback.

This pretty much summarizes my experience with zeros too. I use them on my road bike where clipping/unclipping is at a minimum. For urban/commuter stuff, I'm not sure I'd recommend zeros. Walkability with covers is interesting and would get old really quickly if you're on and off your bike a lot. I use spd on my bikes, mostly because that's what I started with and I've had no major incidents or problems.

somnambulant 06-09-08 09:33 AM


Originally Posted by cavit8 (Post 6846820)
This pretty much summarizes my experience with zeros too. I use them on my road bike where clipping/unclipping is at a minimum. For urban/commuter stuff, I'm not sure I'd recommend zeros. Walkability with covers is interesting and would get old really quickly if you're on and off your bike a lot. I use spd on my bikes, mostly because that's what I started with and I've had no major incidents or problems.

Pretty much my experience as well. That said, I totally love the Crank Brothers stuff for pretty much everything. I currently have Candies or Eggbeaters on all my bikes plus two pairs of shoes with Crank Bros cleats (one pair of Shimanos that are comfortable to walk in, and a pair of SIDI Dominators). I haven't tried their road-specific pedals yet, but I love my Eggbeaters. A little bit of free-float.. no worries of accidental upwards release (assuming the cleats are in decent shape).. 4-sided entry.. really simple mechanism.. good mud-clearing.. etc.

That said, a lot of people swear by Time stuff, but I've heard the newer stuff isn't nearly as nice as the older stuff.

As for CMWCs, I'll definitely be on the island on Sunday (assuming I'm not doing a mtb race), maybe on Saturday afternoon too. Might check out the party on Friday. And there's Goldsprints on Saturday night. Also, Martin's showing some bike movies (incl Quicksilver! :P) at Cinecycle on Wednesday night starting at 8pm. Andre and I are talking about hitting the Don on Wednesday in the early evening, and then I might swing by Cinecycle.

TRaffic Jammer 06-09-08 10:09 AM

so who has rock solid bouncy dirt ride with no tensioner issues? Crank replaced this evening so the ring with no long shift on the crank....yay!.... dirt?

sammie. 06-09-08 12:40 PM

hi guys,
OT I know but I'm just wondering if anyone has a large messenger bag they want to sell... mine's just too small for right now (more than school books, film and ibook).
Or if you know any reasonably priced larger ones.
Thanks!

(sorry if you've already seen the cl ad)

cupcrazy4 06-09-08 01:27 PM


Originally Posted by cavit8 (Post 6846820)
This pretty much summarizes my experience with zeros too. I use them on my road bike where clipping/unclipping is at a minimum. For urban/commuter stuff, I'm not sure I'd recommend zeros. Walkability with covers is interesting and would get old really quickly if you're on and off your bike a lot. I use spd on my bikes, mostly because that's what I started with and I've had no major incidents or problems.

If I went with speedplay I'd get the frog pedal because I'd be using it on my 'cross/urban bike. My two worries are float (which sounds like it's managable, once you get used to it) and ability to shed mud/dirt. My SPDs (M505 --stock) are HORRIBLE when it comes to getting stuff stuck in them (even on a dry day-ride on the Don) and clipping in and (mostly) out is a PITA.


Originally Posted by MattRennick (Post 6846535)
I picked up some Time RXT shoes at Curbside this weekend for $10...

$10!??! Why so cheap? Online they're like $100 according to Google

MattRennick 06-09-08 01:37 PM


Originally Posted by cupcrazy4 (Post 6848552)
$10!??! Why so cheap? Online they're like $100 according to Google

Clearing out stock on some sort of Bloor Street sale... They also had some Lake shoes that were nicer / comfier than the Time ones and some Shimano ones (retail $139 - also $10) that were much nicer than both but the Times were the only ones that fit me...

cupcrazy4 06-09-08 02:07 PM


Originally Posted by MattRennick (Post 6848614)
Clearing out stock on some sort of Bloor Street sale... They also had some Lake shoes that were nicer / comfier than the Time ones and some Shimano ones (retail $139 - also $10) that were much nicer than both but the Times were the only ones that fit me...

I was just in there today, and the place was empty--didn't hear of any crazy sales or anything *sigh* must've missed it.

shapelike 06-09-08 05:12 PM

Mark looks like Thor Hushovd.

pyze-guy 06-09-08 05:13 PM

So the shoulder is finally healed enough that tomorrow I think I'll try some trails. Is the DSR dirt ride still happening?

shapelike 06-09-08 06:04 PM


Originally Posted by pyze-guy (Post 6850002)
So the shoulder is finally healed enough that tomorrow I think I'll try some trails. Is the DSR dirt ride still happening?

If you want some company I'll join ya. I'm not sure about the DSR but Wes mentioned doing a ride on Wednesday (6:45-ish) if you're interested.

YYZRider 06-09-08 06:07 PM


Originally Posted by cupcrazy4 (Post 6848552)
If I went with speedplay I'd get the frog pedal because I'd be using it on my 'cross/urban bike. My two worries are float (which sounds like it's managable, once you get used to it) and ability to shed mud/dirt. My SPDs (M505 --stock) are HORRIBLE when it comes to getting stuff stuck in them (even on a dry day-ride on the Don) and clipping in and (mostly) out is a PITA.



$10!??! Why so cheap? Online they're like $100 according to Google


Yeah, I would not recommend using non-frog Speedplays if mud/dirt shedding is an issue. I would bet the cleats would either (a) jam or (b) wear out insanely fast (or possibly both) if used in really muddy/dirty conditions.

cupcrazy4 06-09-08 06:07 PM

so I think I've decided I'm going with TIME ATAC pedals. My experience with Sweet Pete's (my LBS by 'default'--bought my bike there) has been that they're pretty over-priced, with poor service. Anybody know where to get some ATACs at a reasonable price?

krusty 06-09-08 07:36 PM


Originally Posted by cupcrazy4 (Post 6850352)
so I think I've decided I'm going with TIME ATAC pedals. My experience with Sweet Pete's (my LBS by 'default'--bought my bike there) has been that they're pretty over-priced, with poor service. Anybody know where to get some ATACs at a reasonable price?

http://toronto.en.craigslist.ca/tor/bik/713874318.html

cavernmech 06-09-08 07:44 PM


Originally Posted by krusty (Post 6850880)

Someone jump on those! The old style model are nigh in-destructable and have much better retention for fixed riding. I would already be calling about them but have 3 pairs now :innocent:

cupcrazy4 06-09-08 07:51 PM


Originally Posted by cavernmech (Post 6850931)
Someone jump on those! The old style model are nigh in-destructable and have much better retention for fixed riding. I would already be calling about them but have 3 pairs now :innocent:

I got 'em! Just going to pick them up later this week. You say the old models are better than the newer ones? I was thinking of getting some new XS Carbons for racing and keep these old ones for city riding.

pyze-guy 06-09-08 08:21 PM

Andrew, here is what I was thinking about, attachs to the bb.
http://www.pricepoint.com/images/sty...5%20YESBT8.jpg

cavernmech 06-09-08 08:44 PM


Originally Posted by cupcrazy4 (Post 6850988)
I got 'em! Just going to pick them up later this week. You say the old models are better than the newer ones? I was thinking of getting some new XS Carbons for racing and keep these old ones for city riding.

I have a pair of the carbons as well. They are quite a bit lighter and have tension adjustment. That being said the body is not as robust, the bearing caps need regular tightening and the retention bars wear faster than the old style. I have not used the Carbons in at least a year. If they are to be a dedicated racing set-up, with the old ones for regular use, I would say you are golden.

jeremywhitehorn 06-09-08 09:37 PM

i second keith's recommendation. i've used those old composite ones in the past and am a fool for letting them go. double points for getting them in a normal grey colour as opposed to the early 90s neon or what have you...

pyze-guy 06-09-08 09:45 PM

The Perry Bible Fellowship. Gold. Pure gold.

~Stuart~ 06-10-08 01:53 AM

I feel special, i broke a pair of the grey atac's... yup broke one spring right off.


completely... like one pedal is fine, the other only has half the attachment, apparently they are only secured by plastic, there is no metal reinforcement.

that being said that had been ridden really hard since they were bought (they had been put on 3 different bikes, the first 2 bike being killed before being replaced). either way i would get them again, they kick ass, easy to clip in, dont pop out, dont get clogged (used in mud, snow, ice), and somehow each time i went over the bars, they unclipped and let me leapfrog to freedom/the hardest object nearby

Herbie_Glick 06-10-08 08:33 AM

I second Keith. I have had my titan atacs for about six years and they have stood the test of time. Oddly every new bike I get I put those on and it's always one of the first things people comment on.

TRaffic Jammer 06-10-08 09:10 AM

I still have a functioning pair of original Sierras by Time, before they changed from proprietary bolt pattern. I scooped up a pair of those greys last year....awesome. I LOVE LOVE LOVE 'em, and would like to get a racing pair if I ever get to do some racing. Pyze, do you have linkie for dat thing? Who makes it? Yess?

Nevermind Chris found 'em... wicked cool!!!!! Who carries these in Toronto guys, anyone?

somnambulant 06-10-08 10:07 AM


Originally Posted by pyze-guy (Post 6850002)
So the shoulder is finally healed enough that tomorrow I think I'll try some trails. Is the DSR dirt ride still happening?

I think it'll be too wet in there tonight, plus I have previous commitments. I'm going to head in tomorrow evening, as Mike mentioned.


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