Those pictures are very helpful, thanks. I do remember when this same discussion came up earlier in the thread and I always figured that the Marinoni had a very similar wheelbase to that of the GTBs. It is pretty close in fact, so I think that the big difference is just simply that the GTB is fixed and the Marinoni is not, so I have to be more attentive when riding the Marinoni on the rollers.

It is weird because it is the exact opposite on the street, I almost tune out when riding a road bike cuz I can always just slam on the brakes if there is a problem.

I wouldn't necessarily say it's the fact that it's a fixed gear. There's a zillion variables.. minute differences in geometry/weight distribution, different wheel weights (heavy rim = greater angular momentum = they 'want' to stay upright), different tires, etc, etc, etc.

Then again, I've never ridden rollers at all, let alone being able to distinguish between riding them fixed v. free.

Give me a call and all will be revealed.

I dont know who sells em but the Minoura Workman is a good quality, reasonably priced stand.

is it wrong that I like this site? I think it is awesome! japanesebugfights.com

Whoa this site is awesome!

Campy shamals arrived

14h front, 16h rear. 706g for 16h. That is all.

https://www.dumphead.com/item/2008/01/ied-blast

Funniest thing i've seen all day: NSFW ads.

Chili cookoff, *****es! https://torontoist.com/2008/01/chili_scenes_of.php

"They say he carved his spoon from... A BIGGER SPOON!"

14/16? Do you weigh 90lbs? I finally bit the bullet and asked cycle solutions to build me a fixed/free wheel with the White ENO and an Open Sport rim. I was gonna get a standard track hub, but this one offers me the flexibility to use on any frame.

i'm by no means a carnivore, but vegan chili?

Haha. And yes I weigh 120

speedbikedude: Hi I think I am the Polly you are looking for. Yes I am closing down my shop.
Any other rumors are news to me, perhaps someone on this forum lives in an alternative universe where a doppleganger version of me goes out of bussiness every 2 months..
Just send me a private message for directions contact info etc.. sorry dont think im allowed to post that here.

MATT : no that was not me, this is me.
Trying to think of a good cheap truing stand to reccommend you.. hmm I saw some black truingstand in the basement. Might be possessed by the devil but thats not a big problem for you right?

somnambulant: I haven't ridden on rollers either.. my previous commentary should be taken with a grain of salt as it was based purely on my extensive training as an engineer + talking out of my arse. Maybe some ppl should work out a roller/trainer swap program?

operator: 120? sweet jesus.. go train a bit and become a climber for a pro team

polly: I think the confusion is probably because it seems like you've been going out of business for quite a while (almost a year?) From your CL posts, it seems that you've still got quite a lot of stock to clear.
PS - Got any cheap rollers? (although I think the wife would kill me if I brought another piece of large cycling equipment into the living room)

I like veggie chili a lot, personally! Vegan chili wouldn't really be that different other than the fact that I wouldn't sprinkle cheddar and/or dollop sour cream on the top.

Haha, thanks Polly. I have no problems with the devil at all!
I'll shoot you an email in a bit...

Thanks, Homie!

bugs give me the creeps, man.

Hmmm my chilli has der burger in it. I wish I'd known sooner I could have worked out a vegan version.
So is it like a southern cook off? Big pots and ingredients everywhere, and then the homeless all walk away with food and monies from the registration? I like it!!!

+1, again.

And I sprang from my slumber drenched in sweat like the tears of one million terrified brothers and roared, "Hear me now, I have seen the light! They have a consciousness, they have a life, they have a soul! Damn you! Let the rabbits wear glasses! Save our brothers!" Can I get an amen? Can I get a hallelujah? Thank you Jesus.

In other news... Who thinks 68" is a good gear for the ice race? I'm thinking it's too low, but does anyone else have an opinion?

That doesn't sound ultra low to me.. I mean the rink is pretty small. I'm running ~71" and I can easily get up to 30km/h (@ around 90rpm), which I'm guessing is pretty fast for that little rink.

So what you're saying is that as long as you can spin faster than me, you win!

Ah well, 68 is the best I can do without making things complicated. Guess I'll just have to play dirty!

Who said I'm riding a fixie?

Once the finals come both sides are opened up and it is a bigger rink.
as well if Jim shows up you're racing for second place.. He has a reign of terror on the ice.

"25-FEB-08 GEORGE CLINTON & PARLIAMENT FUNKADELIC PHOENIX 19+ $42.50"

noice.

Edit: full details. Kinda pricey, but I'm still tempted.

I was actually scanning through Rotate This' list of upcoming shows, as I haven't checked out what's coming up in a while. There's actually a whack of stuff that I'm somewhat to very interested in.


30-JAN-08 DJ SHADOW & CUT CHEMIST PHOENIX 19+ $31.50
9-FEB-08 CAT POWER & DIRTY DELTA BLUES KOOL HAUS ALL AGES $31.50
15-FEB-08 THRICE KOOL HAUS ALL AGES $25.00
24-FEB-08 CLUTCH PHOENIX ALL AGES $26.50
25-FEB-08 GEORGE CLINTON & PARLIAMENT FUNKADELIC PHOENIX 19+ $42.50
3-MAR-08 THE HIVES KOOL HAUS ALL AGES $26.00
20-MAR-08 CARIBOU LEE'S 19+ $15.00
21-MAR-08 CARIBOU LEE'S 19+ $15.00
12-APR-08 AUTECHRE LEE'S 19+ $20.00

Oh, and my friend's old band, Wintersleep, who are playing next week. Already have tickets for that one.