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Old 01-23-08 | 09:29 AM
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I've been downloading skate vids. Anyone want to have a little screening? The "Lakai - Fully Flared" video that I posted the intro to (slo-mo + explosions) a few weeks back seems pretty amazing so far (watched the first 30' or so). I also downloaded a couple classics: "Girl - Yeah Right", "The DC Video" and I'm in the process of getting all 3 Mullen vs. Song videos.
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Old 01-23-08 | 09:34 AM
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Does anyone have any truing stand recommendations? I'm basically looking for the most affordable yet still halfway decent truing stand.
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Old 01-23-08 | 09:36 AM
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Does anyone have any truing stand recommendations? I'm basically looking for the most affordable yet still halfway decent truing stand.
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Old 01-23-08 | 09:51 AM
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To dink in red Cavelier this morning: driving so close that it appears as though your car is inside the width of my handlebars and inches from my spinning pedals is NOT going to make me move over into the ice ruts so you can squeeze past the street car. Deal with it.

ps. does anyone have a link to a good 'how to make an ice-racing tire' page?
I did, but now don't. My work here is done.
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Old 01-23-08 | 09:53 AM
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Old 01-23-08 | 10:06 AM
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Originally Posted by somnambulant
I've been downloading skate vids. Anyone want to have a little screening? The "Lakai - Fully Flared" video that I posted the intro to (slo-mo + explosions) a few weeks back seems pretty amazing so far (watched the first 30' or so). I also downloaded a couple classics: "Girl - Yeah Right", "The DC Video" and I'm in the process of getting all 3 Mullen vs. Song videos.
I was thinking of doing a screening of MASH SF and the Bootleg Sessions DVDs ... perhaps a combination night?
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Old 01-23-08 | 10:21 AM
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Originally Posted by somnambulant
ps. does anyone have a link to a good 'how to make an ice-racing tire' page?
https://www.bikeforums.net/winter-cycling/20576-homemade-studded-tires.html ?
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Old 01-23-08 | 10:24 AM
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You looking at making studded tires or ice racers?
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Old 01-23-08 | 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted by TRaffic Jammer
You looking at making studded tires or ice racers?
Ice racers.
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Old 01-23-08 | 10:54 AM
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What's the difference between the two? I was reading this: https://thegearjunkie.com/ice-biking and they use homebrew studded tyres (screws into knobbies type thing) in their races...
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Old 01-23-08 | 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Flimflam
What's the difference between the two? I was reading this: https://thegearjunkie.com/ice-biking and they use homebrew studded tyres (screws into knobbies type thing) in their races...
Well, I think Andrew was basically asking what purpose the tires would serve. I.e. standard studded tires for general use or tires solely dedicated to ice-racing. The latter would allow you to go a lot more hardcore with things as they wouldn't ever be used on anything but ice. A regular studded tire for general use would have to be set up to withstand riding on dry asphalt, etc.
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Old 01-23-08 | 10:59 AM
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Studs are generally meant for extra traction on trails and such. Ice racers are hardcore tires of death with like 800-1200 screws in them. Not for the faint of heart, My buddy cuts himself to ribbons every year.

A consumer studded tire would be virtually useless in an ice race..

https://www.coupedesglaces.org/
On one f the older sites 2006 I think there was a great tut on making a tire. WARNING sites are being weeeeeird!

OK site @ 12:35 seems ok goto 2006 I did english and see article regarding ice tires.

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Old 01-23-08 | 11:29 AM
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hey nerds... i have to share.

The other day I had to go out to Panasonic to take a look at some gear for a project I'm working on. The pics were taken on an iPhone so the camera quality is what it is. But take a look at the picture quality on the screen. I can honestly say that is a true representation. Insane. And the show stopper was when the rep took three fully extended, full force punches to the middle of the screen. Our hearts stopped.

And to keep things topical, if you had one you could watch M.A.S.H. on it and feel like it's you making a lot of bad decisions.



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I've always wondered how that would look in person.. that's their "biggest single-panel plasma on earth", right?
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Old 01-23-08 | 11:33 AM
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I've always wondered how that would look in person.. that's their "biggest single-panel plasma on earth", right?
until earlier this month when they announced the 150" model.
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Old 01-23-08 | 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted by somnambulant
Well, I think Andrew was basically asking what purpose the tires would serve. I.e. standard studded tires for general use or tires solely dedicated to ice-racing. The latter would allow you to go a lot more hardcore with things as they wouldn't ever be used on anything but ice. A regular studded tire for general use would have to be set up to withstand riding on dry asphalt, etc.
Ah yarrrp, I see the difference big time now, heh. Makes sense, ice racing on proper tyres sounds like a boatload of fun.

Speaking of ice... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qu51vkm0SuQ
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Old 01-23-08 | 11:51 AM
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Old 01-23-08 | 01:44 PM
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Why is a track bike so much easier to use on rollers than a road bike? I ride the track bike for ages without any problems but I popped my Marinoni on there and I am all over the place and nearly kill myself two times. Weird.
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Old 01-23-08 | 01:55 PM
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How does the front tire position change in regards to the roller between the two bikes?
Can the roller be adjusted so that the road bike wheel/roller interaction is the same as the track bike's?
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Old 01-23-08 | 01:56 PM
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If the road bike is freewheel -- being "fixed" (i.e. on the track bike) may help with balance via even cadence / smoother spin. If it's a fixed gear road bike conversion -- maybe it has to do with geometry / wheelbase and where the front roller is positioned?
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Old 01-23-08 | 02:01 PM
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Hrm, good points guys. I think that the wheel base on the Marinoni is slightly longer than the GTB, so I have to adjust the front roller position slightly. I feel so dumb

I do think that I have a lot more control riding the track bike, as I am sure all of us feel, I just wanted to see how much different it would be on the rollers to ride a road bike.
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Old 01-23-08 | 02:12 PM
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Keith posted a great graphic here somewhere as to proper wheel positioning on the front roller, If you've hit that sweet spot with your Tracker, then I can imagine the longer wheelbase would make it feel like you were being pulled around. As well if you turned the bars it would totally feel like you were going to go for a tumble.

The control seems better on the tighter bike at reasonable speeds, though I bet you wouldn't want to descend a mountain on a track geometry, it would feel full on squirrelly.
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Old 01-23-08 | 02:40 PM
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Old 01-23-08 | 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by TRaffic Jammer
Keith posted a great graphic here somewhere as to proper wheel positioning on the front roller
I think the idea is to have the front roller positioned directly under the hub.
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Old 01-23-08 | 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by somnambulant
I think the idea is to have the front roller positioned directly under the hub.
This is how I had it set up before Keith's advice:


This is how I have it set up now:


The latter setup makes it MUCH easier to control the bike.
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Old 01-23-08 | 03:31 PM
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