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zippered 03-20-09 03:21 PM

first day of spring! happy vernal equinox, everyone :)

STEEKER 03-20-09 03:57 PM

but's it;s still cold ,,,,,,,,,, but right back at ya Zippered

zippered 03-20-09 04:04 PM

it may even s-n-o-w yet even.... :eek:

shapelike 03-20-09 05:49 PM

NoooOOO!

STEEKER 03-20-09 07:06 PM

now that ! was just plain mean

pyze-guy 03-20-09 09:00 PM


Originally Posted by jeremywhitehorn (Post 8567369)
feel free to make a stop at my house next time you're out that way - might break up the ride a little.

i guess you do get sick of raffi after a while. i have the bob marley for babies cd if you want to borrow it. kind of sounds like creepy elevator music...

I will. Was out to check out 10tation catering.

Bob for kids, interesting. Might have to take ou up on the offer. Are you doing nights at work.

jeremywhitehorn 03-21-09 10:02 AM


Originally Posted by pyze-guy (Post 8569767)
I will. Was out to check out 10tation catering.

Bob for kids, interesting. Might have to take ou up on the offer. Are you doing nights at work.

i'll have to rip it. i'm on nights at work for the time being. until i can find a new job.

kergin 03-21-09 04:58 PM

So I did some actual cross riding through the don today, starting from Cedarvale park... It was fun!

kylehutton 03-21-09 06:36 PM


Originally Posted by ddac (Post 8573549)
Off topic: Maybe some of you guys can help me out. I plan on visiting Toronto on a Saturday & will be driving. I would assume parking will be a pain.

I'm not familiar with Toronto. Can you guys give me some inexpensive parking options? I'm willing to park 1 - 2km away from a central location and walk there if it's easier.

I plan to stay for 6 - 8 hours and do not want to be bothered with going back to the car to feed the meter.

Maybe free parking near a subway/bus line and taking mass transit into the city?

As a tourist, which areas would you recommend me checking out? I'm not looking for anything in particular. Just plan on walking around for a few hours to enjoy the city.


there's a lot that my brother parks at when he comes to stay with me at ossington/bloor that is (i think) $8 for 24 hours. directly across from the ossington subway station.

it's not right downtown, but way better than paying ****loads at some of the lots.

you can check out http://www.greenp.com/tpa/index.jsp to find a lot near where you are planning to be.

cupcrazy4 03-21-09 06:50 PM


Originally Posted by ddac (Post 8573549)
which areas would you recommend me checking out? I'm not looking for anything in particular. Just plan on walking around for a few hours to enjoy the city.

The Distillery District is nice, as well as the obvious CN tower. I'd probably get a TTC day pass (not sure how much they are) and hop on and off the subway and check out a bunch of different places. Also the ROM is cool, but not sure if you have the time to check out a museum.


Also, question about the donut ride: is it legal to ride onto highway 7 from bathurst street? Never done the ride, but I'm looking at a route map someone made online, and it includes briefly riding on highway 7.

Flimflam 03-21-09 06:54 PM


Originally Posted by cupcrazy4 (Post 8573693)
Also, question about the donut ride: is it legal to ride onto highway 7 from bathurst street? Never done the ride, but I'm looking at a route map someone made online, and it includes briefly riding on highway 7.

Unless there's some roadway weirdness preventing it, Hwy7 is a bike-legal road, it's just the 400-series highways that aren't bike/pedestrian legal, I believe.

I_bRAD 03-21-09 07:08 PM


Originally Posted by ddac (Post 8573549)
Off topic: Maybe some of you guys can help me out. I plan on visiting Toronto on a Saturday & will be driving. I would assume parking will be a pain.

I'm not familiar with Toronto. Can you guys give me some inexpensive parking options? I'm willing to park 1 - 2km away from a central location and walk there if it's easier.

I plan to stay for 6 - 8 hours and do not want to be bothered with going back to the car to feed the meter.

Maybe free parking near a subway/bus line and taking mass transit into the city?

As a tourist, which areas would you recommend me checking out? I'm not looking for anything in particular. Just plan on walking around for a few hours to enjoy the city.

Park at a GO train lot and come in on the train. Otherwise, as long as you're in town between 7am and midnight you can park on residential streets for free in most cases.

cupcrazy4 03-21-09 07:17 PM


Originally Posted by Flimflam (Post 8573716)
Unless there's some roadway weirdness preventing it, Hwy7 is a bike-legal road, it's just the 400-series highways that aren't bike/pedestrian legal, I believe.

Aight, thanks--I didn't know that.

cupcrazy4 03-21-09 08:32 PM

The day pass will allow you to use any form of TTC transportation (subway, bus and streetcar). I'm not sure about those three options though--I've never actually needed a day pass. Just walk up to a booth and ask the operator for a day pass. Just make it clear you're by yourself all day (I assume) and they'll tell you which one to get.

Keele is closer than Islington (the subway ride to downtown is probably around half hour, but not sure about that one), and Keele and Bloor is a fine area.

The subway/RT hours of operation on weekdays and Saturdays are approximately 6:00am to 1:30am, and Sunday service approximately 9:00am to 1:30am. Different buses have different hours. There's also an all-night bus along Yonge St. and a streetcar on, I think, Queen St.

Here's a subway map. The TTC website also has some other maps and schedules and such.

aMull 03-21-09 08:34 PM


Originally Posted by cupcrazy4 (Post 8573866)
Aight, thanks--I didn't know that.

Yeah but it's just not bike friendly road at all. A shame ebcause it's in pretty good shape. Eventhough there are tons of lanes it's always full of cars, and worst of all trucks. I use itt sometimes for a little bit. However on a sunday it would be much better, especially with a pack of cyclists.

And by the way, i am bailing out of the ride. Too much school stuff to do for next week.

cupcrazy4 03-21-09 08:52 PM


Originally Posted by aMull (Post 8574231)
Yeah but it's just not bike friendly road at all. A shame ebcause it's in pretty good shape. Eventhough there are tons of lanes it's always full of cars, and worst of all trucks. I use itt sometimes for a little bit. However on a sunday it would be much better, especially with a pack of cyclists.

And by the way, i am bailing out of the ride. Too much school stuff to do for next week.

Ok. I've realized I'd get dropped in 2 seconds flat in the donut ride, so I'm going to try it solo a few times to see how bad it is/build some endurance.

Also, are there any roads in the city that are better for riding/training? Specifically, I'm trying to figure out a way to get from Yonge+Lawrence to High Park (hill repeats :) )on as many quiet streets as possible.

I want to try the donut at least before the end of the summer though. See if I can last 20 minutes :lol:

Flimflam 03-21-09 09:23 PM


Originally Posted by cupcrazy4 (Post 8574298)
Ok. I've realized I'd get dropped in 2 seconds flat in the donut ride, so I'm going to try it solo a few times to see how bad it is/build some endurance.

Also, are there any roads in the city that are better for riding/training? Specifically, I'm trying to figure out a way to get from Yonge+Lawrence to High Park (hill repeats :) )on as many quiet streets as possible.

I want to try the donut at least before the end of the summer though. See if I can last 20 minutes :lol:

Go south on Duplex down to around Lytton (the bowling green there is a wonderful rest stop area), go west a bit, then down Rosewell to Edith Dr, take that wee path (you'll have to turn right and into near that city works building/swimming baths place to get to the footpath) that gets you to Eglinton W, then head either down Avenue (can be pretty damn busy) or take Oriole Parkway south until Kilbarry Rd. Go across there to Russell Hill Rd, then zoom south to the Davenport split-off, go under the tracks to Dupont.

I'd do a bit of back-tracking at this point. I'd go across to Lansdowne, then south all the way to Rideau (sidestreet just south of the tracks underpass after Dundas) then take Macdonnel to Fern Ave, then take Fern all the way across Roncesvalles to Sunnyside, up to High Park Blvd, then you'll be at the east entrance to join up onto Spring Hill Rd in High Park, which is a nice hill to get back upto Bloor level.

Other options for that non-backtrack, would be to take Dupont across to whatever (even to Annette/Keele), then go only as far as Bloor and head across Bloor to High Park that way.

I find Dupont can be busy, but I really enjoy riding on there - seems to never be a problem and always seems fairly quick. It's not a side street by any means.

also, pick up a city cycling map with the city bike routes on - a lot of them are focused on quieter/residential streets where bike paths/lanes aren't available - despite a lot of them not inter-connecting, some routes are really quite nice. I use the above north/south method to get up to Yonge north of St. Clair kind of area. I also use Avenue Road in that mix, which can be hairy.

edit: if you're going to Keele, you can cross Bloor and still head down to Parkside/High Park Blvd and get into the east entrance... Or, head right down to the Queensway (you'd have to go east to Sunnyside to actually get onto the Queensway) or just head right to Lakeshore and go west to Colborne Lodge Dr, which is the very bottom of High Park to climb up. I've never ridden up that particular hill, but I've ran it - it's a good climb.

kergin 03-21-09 11:00 PM


Originally Posted by cupcrazy4 (Post 8574298)
Ok. I've realized I'd get dropped in 2 seconds flat in the donut ride, so I'm going to try it solo a few times to see how bad it is/build some endurance.

Also, are there any roads in the city that are better for riding/training? Specifically, I'm trying to figure out a way to get from Yonge+Lawrence to High Park (hill repeats :) )on as many quiet streets as possible.

I want to try the donut at least before the end of the summer though. See if I can last 20 minutes :lol:

You can do hills in the beaches area. Try Scarborough rd. ;)

pyze-guy 03-21-09 11:16 PM


Originally Posted by ddac (Post 8574077)

I'll probably grab a TTC day pass. But what really confuses the crap out of me is the way it works. For the weekends, it allows:
- 1 adult & up to 5 children
or
- 2 adults & up to 4 children
or
- 2 adults

Are they priced differently?

A family pass is good for weekends and holidays and covers all the uses you mentioned. A single day pass is good for one person anytime. Both allow for unlimited use during the day. Just tell the ticket collecter you want a day pass, they'll know what you mean. TTC Info here.
Keele has free parking at the subway station on weekends, it should be about 10-15 minutes to Bloor from there.

pyze-guy 03-21-09 11:17 PM


Originally Posted by kergin (Post 8573141)
So I did some actual cross riding through the don today, starting from Cedarvale park... It was fun!

How were the trails. I went in at Pottery Rd last week and it was unridable still. Way too muddy to ride.

kergin 03-22-09 10:14 AM


Originally Posted by pyze-guy (Post 8574897)
How were the trails. I went in at Pottery Rd last week and it was unridable still. Way too muddy to ride.

Muddy. Very, very muddy. It's okay, though - I was riding my Shimano-equipped bike. :lol:

I should add: after using campy shifters (QS) versus Shimano STI, it's painfully obvious why anyone (but racers, especially) would choose campy. You really need the ability to jump multiple cogs at a time, going both up and down, to adjust for terrain. With that in mind, SS and fixed cross or XC riders are a bunch of hard-ass mother****ers.

cupcrazy4 03-22-09 10:18 AM


Originally Posted by Flimflam (Post 8574444)
Go south on Duplex down to around Lytton (the bowling green there is a wonderful rest stop area), go west a bit, then down Rosewell to Edith Dr, take that wee path (you'll have to turn right and into near that city works building/swimming baths place to get to the footpath) that gets you to Eglinton W, then head either down Avenue (can be pretty damn busy) or take Oriole Parkway south until Kilbarry Rd. Go across there to Russell Hill Rd, then zoom south to the Davenport split-off, go under the tracks to Dupont.

I'd do a bit of back-tracking at this point. I'd go across to Lansdowne, then south all the way to Rideau (sidestreet just south of the tracks underpass after Dundas) then take Macdonnel to Fern Ave, then take Fern all the way across Roncesvalles to Sunnyside, up to High Park Blvd, then you'll be at the east entrance to join up onto Spring Hill Rd in High Park, which is a nice hill to get back upto Bloor level.

Other options for that non-backtrack, would be to take Dupont across to whatever (even to Annette/Keele), then go only as far as Bloor and head across Bloor to High Park that way.

I find Dupont can be busy, but I really enjoy riding on there - seems to never be a problem and always seems fairly quick. It's not a side street by any means.

also, pick up a city cycling map with the city bike routes on - a lot of them are focused on quieter/residential streets where bike paths/lanes aren't available - despite a lot of them not inter-connecting, some routes are really quite nice. I use the above north/south method to get up to Yonge north of St. Clair kind of area. I also use Avenue Road in that mix, which can be hairy.

edit: if you're going to Keele, you can cross Bloor and still head down to Parkside/High Park Blvd and get into the east entrance... Or, head right down to the Queensway (you'd have to go east to Sunnyside to actually get onto the Queensway) or just head right to Lakeshore and go west to Colborne Lodge Dr, which is the very bottom of High Park to climb up. I've never ridden up that particular hill, but I've ran it - it's a good climb.

solid. thanks for the tips. As soon as I'm back in TO I'm trying this out.

elTwitcho 03-22-09 10:50 AM

ddac - The distillery is a cool place to check out but not really near much else. I'd also suggest the area around Kensington market. From there you have China Town, Queen West, and the Annex all within a 10 minute walk and all of which are pretty fun areas to walk through.


And for Hill repeats, I've been just waking up quasi early on weekends and riding from the bottom of Yonge Street and going north. It's not traffic free but the cars are alright on Yonge Street mostly and there's a good bunch of hills to tackle.

aMull 03-22-09 11:25 AM

Or pick a windy day and enjoy the headwind.

cupcrazy4 03-22-09 11:25 AM


Originally Posted by kergin (Post 8574821)
You can do hills in the beaches area. Try Scarborough rd. ;)

Cool, I'll try that out too. Just as soon as this semester is over/ I'm back in the big smoke


Originally Posted by elTwitcho (Post 8576280)
And for Hill repeats, I've been just waking up quasi early on weekends and riding from the bottom of Yonge Street and going north. It's not traffic free but the cars are alright on Yonge Street mostly and there's a good bunch of hills to tackle.


True, I especially love going up to St. Claire. Problem is traffic lights are lame, and the road gets horrible north of Eglinton.


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