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zippered 01-25-07 04:24 PM


Originally Posted by TRaffic Jammer
CM could be tempting. A slow sub-arctic CM doesn't appeal. Can't we just rip a CM one month?

last month's ride was much faster than usual. that being said, despite my (mec lobster) gloves, balaclava, hat, neck bandana and leg warmers (+1) i was very, very glad i only had to go a short distance. i guess i'll just have to play it by, er, feel!

edit: i can't believe how many folks i saw on my way home that weren't wearing hats! people might think I'M crazy for riding my bike, but at least I know how to dress for the weather.

operator 01-25-07 04:41 PM


Originally Posted by Shiznaz
Handguns are designed to wound or kill people. They have no other use.

I don't agree with this. Shooting for sport (olympics) is different from using it to kill someone. Just because something can be used to kill someone doens't make it inherently evil, nor can you just slag it off on the "no other use" category. By this line of reasoning anything that can be used to harm someone should be banned?

Shiznaz 01-25-07 04:42 PM


Originally Posted by operator
I don't agree with this. Shooting for sport is different from using it to kill someone. Just because something can be used to kill someone doens't make it inherently evil, nor can you just slag it off on the "no other use" category. By this line of reasoning anything that can be used to harm someone should be banned?

If the sole goal of the object is to kill another person, yeah, it should be banned. If you REALLY want to shoot for sport, shoot a shotgun or a rifle. Seriously, its the same thing. The only reason to want a handgun is to look or feel cool and tough, or to kill or wound someone. If you want to pretend to be Jack Bauer, go south.

TRaffic Jammer 01-25-07 05:07 PM

My IVI sport shooting involved a nice light .22long rifle with custom hand grip. Always wanted to try biathlon. You can goto the range with your 9.

My step father has a shotgun and a beautiful Beretta9. His competitions involve mock towns with targets jumping out from hiding spots, a little too close to military situational simulators for my liking. All are in the states and they were more concerned at the border about the tee shirts he was bringing back than the weapons in his trunk.

jeremywhitehorn 01-25-07 05:43 PM


Originally Posted by jet sanchEz
There is a shop on Roncesvalles called West Side Cycle and he sells the SOMA track frame, maybe he has other stuff too? He is pretty expensive though, I think that the SOMA Rush frame/fork is 750$ in his shop. Also, he is a bit weird, just a warning.

yup that's the LBS i was refering to. yes, william is a little weird but a nice enough guy and his mechanics are good.

jeremywhitehorn 01-25-07 05:50 PM


Originally Posted by operator
I don't agree with this. Shooting for sport (olympics) is different from using it to kill someone. Just because something can be used to kill someone doens't make it inherently evil, nor can you just slag it off on the "no other use" category. By this line of reasoning anything that can be used to harm someone should be banned?

no, just the things that are designed to kill people should be banned. if you are claiming that handguns have other legitimate, practical uses other than harm and murder, you're reaching.

operator 01-25-07 06:08 PM


Originally Posted by jeremywhitehorn
no, just the things that are designed to kill people should be banned. if you are claiming that handguns have other legitimate, practical uses other than harm and murder, you're reaching.

But why? People who are going to use guns to kill people and commit crimes will get them regardless of any written laws.

Designing weapons to kill people is a necessary evil. I'm sure you're familiar with the concept of MAD. Anyways - I like bikes.

I_bRAD 01-25-07 06:11 PM


Originally Posted by jeremywhitehorn
yup that's the LBS i was refering to. yes, william is a little weird but a nice enough guy and his mechanics are good.

I thought everyone that was into bikes was a little weird? That's cool with me :)

I'm not for thug violence, but telling a legit target shooter to use a rifle instead of a handgun is like telling someone to ride a bike with a freewheel 'cause it's the same thing as a fixed.

Shiznaz 01-25-07 06:15 PM

I think its more like telling someone who drives a Navigator that they have to drive a Camry because they are destroying the planet.

PS. Marijuana is illegal. Handguns are legal. Something has got to be wrong here.

TRaffic Jammer 01-25-07 06:15 PM

Keith mentioned approximately 80$ in duties on delivery if anyone is thinking about the IRO buy. I'm torn.

cavit8 01-25-07 07:39 PM


Originally Posted by Shiznaz
PS. Marijuana is illegal. Handguns are legal. Something has got to be wrong here.

This is the most sense I've seen in this latest thread..... Ah the good old days of the hotbox cafe and not (il)legal herb....

And no one's up on that beautiful Guerciotti.... I think I'll have to cut me feet off.

TRaffic Jammer 01-25-07 07:45 PM

with the bmx pedals?

duppy.conqueror 01-25-07 07:48 PM


Originally Posted by Shiznaz
PS. Marijuana is illegal. Handguns are legal. Something has got to be wrong here.

well put.

jet sanchEz 01-25-07 08:34 PM


Originally Posted by cavit8
And no one's up on that beautiful Guerciotti.... I think I'll have to cut me feet off.

It is crazy hot, no? I want to do this someday with my Ciocc, update it with the latest neato crap and ride the hell out of it. Incidentally, did anyone here score that Puch for $65 on the weekend? That is the best deal I've seen on CL in ages and the person who posted it was very nice, emailling everyone back to say that it was gone.

operator 01-25-07 08:46 PM

Yeah I saw that Puch. I was like wow $65, that's got to be gone within minutes of it being posted.

This could be you!

http://toronto.craigslist.org/mis/268360078.html

cavit8 01-25-07 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by jet sanchEz
It is crazy hot, no?

I think it has potential. Too small for me though. And I scooped that Mag 21 for my SS mtb project so I have no $$ anyway...

cavit8 01-25-07 08:53 PM


Originally Posted by operator
Yeah I saw that Puch. I was like wow $65, that's got to be gone within minutes of it being posted.

This could be you!

http://toronto.craigslist.org/mis/268360078.html


How weird is that.. certainly not me and I pity the fool... It's probably you and your almond thighs, op

I_bRAD 01-25-07 08:57 PM


Originally Posted by Shiznaz
PS. Marijuana is illegal. Handguns are legal. Something has got to be wrong here.

As I understand it, the guys with the handguns are the ones supplying the pot.

jet sanchEz 01-25-07 09:57 PM


Originally Posted by operator

Whoa! The girl I was seeing over the summer would only know it as a "track bike" so I know it is not her but that is an odd thing. Who here has been lovin' em and leavin' em?


Originally Posted by I_bRAD
As I understand it, the guys with the handguns are the ones supplying the pot.

If any of the dealers I used to know tried to use a handgun they'd shoot their foot right off and you'd end up driving them to the hosptial in exchange for a dimebag.

lymbzero 01-25-07 10:49 PM


Originally Posted by jet sanchEz
Whoa! The girl I was seeing over the summer would only know it as a "track bike" so I know it is not her but that is an odd thing. Who here has been lovin' em and leavin' em?

It says it's a recent development.
So maybe nothing ever happened.

How many of you guys replied to this message?!?!
I bet her inbox is flooded.

pyze-guy 01-25-07 10:57 PM


Originally Posted by Shiznaz
I think its more like telling someone who drives a Navigator that they have to drive a Camry because they are destroying the planet.

PS. Marijuana is illegal. Handguns are legal. Something has got to be wrong here.

Uh, since when are handguns legal, aside for sporting club purposes i.e target shooting. Last time I checked they were still illegal, and target pistols had to be kept locked at the range/shooting club.

Weed is now decriminalized. About time too.

I'm cranky today because I missed out on the raceface cranks on CL. $60 for cranks, 3 rings and b/b. Crap. Then I had Pol. Economy of Public Policy at York tonight. And tomorrow I have to be a scribe and write some kids answers for his exam. And it's cold and I haven't had a smoke today and that makes me really cranky.

cavit8 01-25-07 10:58 PM

Well someone responded in the list... (I'm guessing it was jet!).

I didn't respond, sounds like the poor girl has enough problems.

cavit8 01-25-07 11:05 PM


Originally Posted by pyze-guy
Weed is now decriminalized. About time too.

Ummm... the marijuana decriminalization bill never got past committee on the second tabling. Unless somethings happened that I dont' know about (in Harper's Canada????). Decriminalization just means they can slap you with a $150 fine instead of ignoring you because it's too much bother to charge you for possession of less than a gram.

jeremywhitehorn 01-25-07 11:21 PM

on a bike related topic, i meant to respond to wes' comment from yesterday that last night was a great night for a ride. i thoroughly enjoyed my ride home from work. tonight even, nice moonlit night, bundle up and don't worry about the cold. i hate to admit it, but i went for a run through high park and remembered how nice the night can be for exercise. not much point to this post really.

jet sanchEz 01-25-07 11:25 PM


Originally Posted by cavit8
Well someone responded in the list... (I'm guessing it was jet!).

I didn't respond, sounds like the poor girl has enough problems.

Heheh, nope, not me. There are a couple of postings now, one asking what fixed gear is and another explaining it. I think there must have been another posting as well because she says that someone else shares the same love for fixed gear riders. Odd.


Originally Posted by jeremywhitehorn
i went for a run through high park and remembered how nice the night can be for exercise. not much point to this post really.

Last night, I had the same feeling. There was no one around and the only thing I could only hear was my tires slicing through the snow. Nice sound, great feeling.


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