Trek recalls nearly 900K bikes for possible crash hazard
04-21-15, 06:10 PM
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Trek recalls nearly 900K bikes for possible crash hazard
Wow. Massive.
Official recall:
https://www.trekbikes.com/pdf/recalls...otice_USEN.pdf
News:
Trek recalls nearly 900K bikes for possible crash hazard | News - Channel3000.com
Official recall:
https://www.trekbikes.com/pdf/recalls...otice_USEN.pdf
News:
Trek recalls nearly 900K bikes for possible crash hazard | News - Channel3000.com
04-21-15, 06:13 PM
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glad my Emonda doesn't have disc brakes.
04-21-15, 06:31 PM
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So, Trek is apparently trying to fix stupid. I thought that couldn't be done.
Am I the only one who thinks this is ridiculous? I mean, I check to ensure my QRs are closed prior to every ride . . . it really is not that hard.
Am I the only one who thinks this is ridiculous? I mean, I check to ensure my QRs are closed prior to every ride . . . it really is not that hard.
04-21-15, 06:33 PM
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Am I misreading.. the recall is to replace the front skewer?
04-21-15, 06:45 PM
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More importantly found on that webpage (to me anyway) is that the Packers released their 2015 schedule. Nice to see them back playing on Thanksgiving.
04-21-15, 06:50 PM
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Whew. Glad my '86 760 is not on that list.
04-21-15, 07:00 PM
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But if we assumed people actually knew how to use a QR, we wouldn't have lawyer tabs
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04-21-15, 07:05 PM
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So while the consequences here are significant, it's impossible to engineer against all user error. I understand the dynamics of why Trek would issue the recall, but I think it's an example of our tort system run amok.
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04-21-15, 07:09 PM
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Just remember "Stupid should HURT".
04-21-15, 07:09 PM
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Agreed. Someone becoming a quadriplegic is tragic. There's a difference, though, between mechanical failure (which is what most recalls are for) vs. user error. If this recall were due to mechanical failure in qr design, then I would classify that as reasonable. But this recall is being issued to compensate for user error -- and that is ridiculous.
04-21-15, 07:13 PM
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Dang...
When I read the title, I was hoping to trade my Aluminum Trek 1000 frame for a CF Madone frame
I like the photo that accompanies the Channel 3000 article.
And a bolt on wheel with rim brakes relates to the article... HOW EXACTLY?
When I read the title, I was hoping to trade my Aluminum Trek 1000 frame for a CF Madone frame
I like the photo that accompanies the Channel 3000 article.
And a bolt on wheel with rim brakes relates to the article... HOW EXACTLY?
04-21-15, 07:15 PM
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For the design to be a problem, you have to be riding the bike with the QR completely open, and in a position where it should be obvious that it could interfere with the brake.
So while the consequences here are significant, it's impossible to engineer against all user error. I understand the dynamics of why Trek would issue the recall, but I think it's an example of our tort system run amok.
So while the consequences here are significant, it's impossible to engineer against all user error. I understand the dynamics of why Trek would issue the recall, but I think it's an example of our tort system run amok.
04-21-15, 07:20 PM
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The problem Trek has is perceived liability. If Trek gets sued, are they going to be able to convince a jury that the company is not liable. Some years ago, Schwinn was sued for not adequately warning that reflectors are not considered sufficient safety equipment for riding at night. They lost.
04-21-15, 07:32 PM
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04-21-15, 07:41 PM
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Agreed. Someone becoming a quadriplegic is tragic. There's a difference, though, between mechanical failure (which is what most recalls are for) vs. user error. If this recall were due to mechanical failure in qr design, then I would classify that as reasonable. But this recall is being issued to compensate for user error -- and that is ridiculous.
Does anybody have one of the Trek QRs with Disc brakes?
I checked several of my QR levers. Most of them don't go significantly past 180 degrees on open or close, and would not be a problem.
EXCEPT ONE.
This is an external cam QR, that will enter the disc when LOCKED. That may be beyond the tight spot, but it just looks plain wicked to me.
Imagine riding along and bumping your skewer... and suddenly finding yourself doing a face-plant.
No doubt the replacement part only costs Trek $1 or $2 (plus the coupon they've added which probably comes at a discount off of face value).
One solution, of course, is to put the lever on the opposite side as the disc, at least on the front wheel. But I would welcome the replacement skewer.
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04-21-15, 08:04 PM
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Gawd. I got the e-mail, went out to look at mine. It comes close. But for the lever to actually enter the spokes of the disk, the wheel would have to be cocked enough to cause handling problems. At least on mine. But I suppose there are hundreds of different levers out there.
04-21-15, 08:13 PM
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Too many lawyers Trying to make a living I guess...
04-21-15, 08:40 PM
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For the design to be a problem, you have to be riding the bike with the QR completely open, and in a position where it should be obvious that it could interfere with the brake.
So while the consequences here are significant, it's impossible to engineer against all user error. I understand the dynamics of why Trek would issue the recall, but I think it's an example of our tort system run amok.
So while the consequences here are significant, it's impossible to engineer against all user error. I understand the dynamics of why Trek would issue the recall, but I think it's an example of our tort system run amok.
04-21-15, 08:48 PM
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Trek recalls about 900-thousand bicycles
This is the reason why all disc brake Road bikes need through axles!
This is the reason why all disc brake Road bikes need through axles!
04-21-15, 09:19 PM
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When a simpler fix is to put the lever on the side without the disk.
04-21-15, 09:23 PM
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I guess I was late with the idea, so I'll add; it looks better, I never run the lever on the same side as the disk.