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Trsnrtr 10-28-15 08:04 PM


Originally Posted by Doug28450 (Post 18278077)
If the wild boar did eat GMO corn, you are doomed. May I have your Giant Propel, the new tandem and your bicycle cycle tools?

Why, cointainly. Nyuk, nyuk.

Doug28450 10-28-15 08:04 PM


Originally Posted by BillyD (Post 18278107)
Are they magically delicious?

Yes, yes they are.

Would you like a package? I do not consider New York a third world country, so that makes you eligible.

rjones28 10-28-15 08:10 PM

There was also a package form Craft waiting for me at the bike shop. Each item was made entirely with synthetic materials. No hemp, bts, or butterflies.

2manybikes 10-28-15 08:13 PM


Originally Posted by rjones28 (Post 18277316)
Do you have any non-GMO candy corn?

Excellent! :)

Doug28450 10-28-15 08:15 PM


Originally Posted by rjones28 (Post 18278148)
There was also a package form Craft waiting for me at the bike shop. Each item was made entirely with synthetic materials. No hemp, bts, or butterflies.

You are to be commended for your environmental responsibility.

Doug28450 10-28-15 08:19 PM

I was going to post a photo in the Autumn Photo thread. However, I concluded that barren corn and soybean fields would not garner much interest.

3alarmer 10-28-15 08:22 PM


Originally Posted by rpenmanparker (Post 18277899)

But why would you say I can't read the links?

...I don't know. It might have something to do with your failure to read and comprehend them. Like I said, I'm done. Next month, we can hit the high points on "low till" herbicide resistant GMO soybeans, and how they are saving the world. :)

Herbie53 10-28-15 08:30 PM

Mrs. Herbie errantly purchased "organic" milk. It costs almost 2x regular milk costs. I am afraid it might kill me or be full of bugs...

and isn't all milk organic?

3alarmer 10-28-15 08:30 PM


Originally Posted by rpenmanparker (Post 18278116)
Good catch. Thanks. I will gladly stipulate they are different but closely related. My point is they are lepidoptera larvae, not nematodes.

...corn rootworms are beetles, actually. The nematode resistance thing just is another added bonus of careful and principled science. Cutting edge really.

Doug28450 10-28-15 08:34 PM


Originally Posted by Herbie53 (Post 18278184)
Mrs. Herbie errantly purchased "organic" milk. It costs almost 2x regular milk costs. I am afraid it might kill me or be full of bugs...

and isn't all milk organic?

Interesting item to note. Look at the use by date on the carton of organic milk. You should notice that it is much further out than non-organic milk.

rjones28 10-28-15 08:35 PM


Originally Posted by Herbie53 (Post 18278184)
Mrs. Herbie errantly purchased "organic" milk. It costs almost 2x regular milk costs. I am afraid it might kill me or be full of bugs...

and isn't all milk organic?

We buy raw milk from a local farm. It costs about the same as milk at the grocery store. Tastes better.

rpenmanparker 10-28-15 08:41 PM


Originally Posted by Doug28450 (Post 18278199)
Interesting item to note. Look at the use by date on the carton of organic milk. You should notice that it is much further out than non-organic milk.

Possibly because it is ultra-pasteurized instead of just pasteurized. Many specialty dairy products are treated that way for longer shelf life: whipping cream for example. It's hard to imagine it has anything to do with any aspect of the husbandry of the animals.

FLvector 10-28-15 08:43 PM


Originally Posted by 3alarmer (Post 18278188)
...corn rootworms are beetles, actually. The nematode resistance thing just is another added bonus of careful and principled science. Cutting edge really.

I thought he was referring to corn borers? Two very different things.

BTW, today was "national chocolate day" and I didn't have any. Oh wait, I did have an eclair this morning, guess that will count. I rarely eat donuts, but just couldn't resist.

rjones28 10-28-15 08:47 PM

I had a chocolate half moon cookie for my post-test treat.

BillyD 10-28-15 08:50 PM


Originally Posted by FLvector (Post 18278222)
BTW, today was "national chocolate day" and I didn't have any. Oh wait, I did have an eclair this morning, guess that will count. I rarely eat donuts, but just couldn't resist.

NOW you tell us. I'm not eating any chocolate before bedtime. I have to get up early tomorrow, eagle day #1 for the season.

BillyD 10-28-15 08:52 PM

Oh wait, I just had a piece of chocolate pudding cake. But cake doesn't hit you like candy.

BillyD 10-28-15 08:53 PM


Originally Posted by LAJ (Post 18278002)
This.

Except for the rain.

We need the rain. And we're getting it.

3alarmer 10-28-15 08:54 PM


Originally Posted by FLvector (Post 18278222)
I thought he was referring to corn borers? Two very different things.

BTW, today was "national chocolate day" and I didn't have any. Oh wait, I did have an eclair this morning, guess that will count. I rarely eat donuts, but just couldn't resist.

...he was, I wasn't. From my POV, I was talking about three very different Bt corn approaches to different insct populations. The initial varieties, targeting European corn borers, worked pretty well, and when the restrictions on planting percentages were followed, minimized resistance. The corn rootworm stuff came a decade later, and because of already quoted events, has resulted in resistant populations of the beetles in about ten years.

The nematode targeting stuff is still in the research stages. It will work less well because of all the Bt resistant populations we've already fostered in places where corn is grown intensively.

I'm not worried, though. The laboratory boys have it well in hand. :)

3alarmer 10-28-15 08:55 PM


Originally Posted by BillyD (Post 18278245)
We need the rain. And we're getting it.

...we got stiffed again here. :( just enough rain to make the car dirty.

Doug28450 10-28-15 08:55 PM


Originally Posted by rpenmanparker (Post 18278220)
Possibly because it is ultra-pasteurized instead of just pasteurized. Many specialty dairy products are treated that way for longer shelf life: whipping cream for example. It's hard to imagine it has anything to do with any aspect of the husbandry of the animals.

I never put much thought into why that is. I just found it interesting.

Doug28450 10-28-15 08:59 PM


Originally Posted by 3alarmer (Post 18278248)
...he was, I wasn't. From my POV, I was talking about three very different Bt corn approaches to different insct populations. The initial varieties, targeting European corn borers, worked pretty well, and when the restrictions on planting percentages were followed, minimized resistance. The corn rootworm stuff came a decade later, and because of already quoted events, has resulted in resistant populations of the beetles in about ten years.

The nematode targeting stuff is still in the research stages. It will work less well because of all the Bt resistant populations we've already fostered in places where corn is grown intensively.

I'm not worried, though. The laboratory boys have it well in hand. :)

Beetles are generally smarter than they are given credit for.

3alarmer 10-28-15 09:05 PM


Originally Posted by Doug28450 (Post 18278261)
Beetles are generally smarter than they are given credit for.

...they certainly took over the pop music scene here in the 60's.

rpenmanparker 10-28-15 09:05 PM


Originally Posted by 3alarmer (Post 18278172)
...I don't know. It might have something to do with your failure to read and comprehend them. Like I said, I'm done.

Cute. Silly, but cute. You're all over the place on this thing, and I still can't find where nematodes are harmed, were ever supposed to be harmed, or are less likely to be harmed now by the Bt crops. Can you say red herring?

Mumonkan 10-28-15 09:07 PM

after quite a moist commute home from work i built up the front wheel for the john deere bridgestone

dyno hubs feel really weird when you spin them.

rpenmanparker 10-28-15 09:07 PM


Originally Posted by Doug28450 (Post 18278252)
I never put much thought into why that is. I just found it interesting.

Fair enough.


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