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rjones28 12-29-15 05:32 PM


Originally Posted by Dan333SP (Post 18421412)
I think we all knew it was coming to this, but here we are and I still find myself surprised. There's a thread going where people are debating when it is an appropriate time to give someone kudos on Strava.

I don't know about you guys, but that seems even more absurd to me than worrying about sock length or waving or NDS bike pictures or whatever.

Watch it buddy. Sock length is serious business.

rjones28 12-29-15 05:34 PM


Originally Posted by FLvector (Post 18421449)
Just another pissing contest to engage in for those that post more than they ride. I guess we expect this in the winter.

We had someone that would suck wheel the whole ride, then just when he got to the Strava segment he was trying to get a KOM, he would shoot his wad for the segment and be spent the remainder of the ride. After we saw what he was doing, we'd all yell Strava as we approached the segment, laughing too hard to pedal.

I sleep more than I ride.

#justsaying

rjones28 12-29-15 05:35 PM


Originally Posted by Doug28450 (Post 18421474)
I just went on Strava and gave those of you I am stalking a thumbs up for each activity.

Kudos

datlas 12-29-15 05:38 PM

I don't know the upper and lower cutoff's for "middle class" but it should be adjusted for geography/cost of living.

For example, a single person making $50K/year in Idaho may be quite comfortable, while the same income in NYC or San Francisco may be less so.

datlas 12-29-15 05:49 PM


Originally Posted by datlas (Post 18422177)
I don't know the upper and lower cutoff's for "middle class" but it should be adjusted for geography/cost of living.

For example, a single person making $50K/year in Idaho may be quite comfortable, while the same income in NYC or San Francisco may be less so.

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Heathpack 12-29-15 06:07 PM


Originally Posted by Trsnrtr (Post 18422014)
I give kudos to Stacey because she's the only serious rider around here. :)

Haha, I was going to mention that you kudo'ed my warm up ride for a strength/core workout. I got a few Strava comments too. On account of my bad-ass 20 min ride when it was cold out.

Speaking of strength workouts, these are not my thing. But they are new in my schedule, so of course I do them. Yesterday was my 3rd one. I was massively sore after the first two, for 48 hours. Today though I feel only pleasantly sore despite the fact that I was confused and mistakenly doubled my weight for all the stuff that requires weight (still not much). Sweet.

Bah Humbug 12-29-15 06:08 PM


Originally Posted by RollCNY (Post 18422116)
I read an interesting blurb today that 90% of US'ers consider themselves middle class, and Bernie Sanders, Mr. Tax the Upper Class, thinks that middle class is defined as $250k household income or lower. To be in that elusive 5%, one needs a household income of $206k per annum. Are we surrounded by people who find math strange and confusing? Sheesh.

Well, yes. Many people are appallingly bad at math.

And then there's the whole grammar situation.

BillyD 12-29-15 06:09 PM

That 250k figure Clinton and Sanders were debating was a total household figure, two people iow. So in Datlas' chart, residents from Maryland thru Virginia all legitimately qualify as middle class.

Heathpack 12-29-15 06:10 PM


Originally Posted by datlas (Post 18422202)

Wow. California is not that bad a deal compared to Maryland.

BillyD 12-29-15 06:12 PM


Originally Posted by Heathpack (Post 18422252)
Speaking of strength workouts, these are not my thing. But they are new in my schedule, so of course I do them.

I'll still arm wrestle you any day of the week, missy.

Bah Humbug 12-29-15 06:13 PM


Originally Posted by datlas (Post 18422202)
(giant table image)

Problem is that it's much more specific than state - here in Austin is much more expensive than Amarillo. A few chunks of California are completely insane, and other parts are quite cheap. Brooklyn is more expensive than Buffalo. According to that chart, AG and I are well over middle class... but it sure doesn't feel like that here. Over in Lubbock we'd probably feel a whole lot more comfortable.

Heathpack 12-29-15 06:19 PM


Originally Posted by Doug28450 (Post 18421614)
That's my interest as well. Speed/HR/Cadence, grade. When I'm finished, I'm finished. I'll dump the data into Garmin Connect every two weeks or so.

I'm usually more interested in the post-ride data. Unless I'm doing a workout with specific power targets or riding a TT, in which case I look at the real time data.

But even after a TT, when I've seen the data live and the results are finalized and we've all gone home, I can't really 100% say how it went until I get home and look at the data. How were my splits relative to my plan? How steady was my power? When/where/how often did I go into the red? How was my start? How long did my turn take? What was my cadence? Did I let my HR drop below threshold, & if so, when & where on the course was that? It takes me 30 minutes maybe to decide if I'm happy with the race. Even though I maybe won it and PRed it, I won't decide what I think of the effort without looking at the data. The flip side of that of course is that I can *not* win it & still be very happy with it, if I raced it well and improved the technical aspects of the effort relative to what I've previously been capable of.

:)

Heathpack 12-29-15 06:20 PM


Originally Posted by BillyD (Post 18422260)
I'll still arm wrestle you any day of the week, missy.

<I went from 10# to 20#, you have nothing to worry about.>

datlas 12-29-15 06:23 PM


Originally Posted by Bah Humbug (Post 18422262)
Problem is that it's much more specific than state - here in Austin is much more expensive than Amarillo. A few chunks of California are completely insane, and other parts are quite cheap. Brooklyn is more expensive than Buffalo. According to that chart, AG and I are well over middle class... but it sure doesn't feel like that here. Over in Lubbock we'd probably feel a whole lot more comfortable.

True, it should be adjusted by town or neighborhood...but that table won't fit.

RollCNY 12-29-15 06:32 PM

And federal taxes can't have a regional modifier, as far as I know. There would be unfairness cries far and wide, and who could be trusted to set it up without bias and gerrymandering. Carly says a three page tax code should cover it, so we have that going for us :).

FLvector 12-29-15 06:41 PM


Originally Posted by BillyD (Post 18421967)
She's talking literally nekked . . . as in buck nekked . . . as in no clothes.

In that case, I don't think there will be many kudos given among us.

Bah Humbug 12-29-15 06:54 PM


Originally Posted by RollCNY (Post 18422294)
And federal taxes can't have a regional modifier, as far as I know. There would be unfairness cries far and wide, and who could be trusted to set it up without bias and gerrymandering. Carly says a three page tax code should cover it, so we have that going for us :).

Three whole pages? That's longer than her immediate competitors'. By a lot.

Bah Humbug 12-29-15 06:56 PM


Originally Posted by Heathpack (Post 18422274)
<I went from 10# to 20#, you have nothing to worry about.>

My old trainer's favorite thing is to absolutely torture big dudes with the 2.5lb-ers. It all depends on what you're doing with them.

But hey, kudos (;)) for doubling!

Mumonkan 12-29-15 06:56 PM

that table is worthless. new york state is in a different universe compared to a nyc income

try living in nyc on 38grand. ha!

Trsnrtr 12-29-15 06:58 PM


Originally Posted by RollCNY (Post 18422116)
I read an interesting blurb today that 90% of US'ers consider themselves middle class, and Bernie Sanders, Mr. Tax the Upper Class, thinks that middle class is defined as $250k household income or lower. To be in that elusive 5%, one needs a household income of $206k per annum. Are we surrounded by people who find math strange and confusing? Sheesh.

low, middle, and upper are elusive categories depending upon who is making the assertion. If you look at all wage earners, the 90th percentile is no where near as high as people would think.

Trsnrtr 12-29-15 06:59 PM


Originally Posted by RollCNY (Post 18422139)
Interestingly, if you ask someone how much they need to earn to be wealthy, they almost universally will state a number 50% higher than their current earnings. There have been several interesting studies on it (if one is remotely prone to finding this **** interesting :) ).

correct.

Trsnrtr 12-29-15 07:02 PM


Originally Posted by Heathpack (Post 18422252)
Haha, I was going to mention that you kudo'ed my warm up ride for a strength/core workout. I got a few Strava comments too. On account of my bad-ass 20 min ride when it was cold out.

Yep, I'll kudos anything especially when it involves women stronger than I am. :D

Bah Humbug 12-29-15 07:09 PM


Originally Posted by Trsnrtr (Post 18422348)
low, middle, and upper are elusive categories depending upon who is making the assertion. If you look at all wage earners, the 90th percentile is no where near as high as people would think.

To make a meaningfull distinction, you have to decide what you're trying to measure. People making twice as much as me and AG don't actually have lives that are all that different from ours - they live in nicer houses and drive nicer cars to work. That's entirely different from measuring the gap to true wealth, where your life is entirely different. It's not even really the top 1%, let alone the top 10%.

Edit: I'm talking about the difference between Tom Brady's dentist, Tom Brady, and Robert Kraft. All three are "above middle class", but they're in three completely different economic strata.

LesterOfPuppets 12-29-15 08:18 PM


Originally Posted by Heathpack (Post 18422257)
Wow. California is not that bad a deal compared to Maryland.

Maryland gets skewed by proximity to DC. NoVa does too, but there's more of rural Va. to counter that.

BillyD 12-29-15 08:42 PM


Originally Posted by Trsnrtr (Post 18422360)
Yep, I'll kudos anything especially when it involves women stronger than I am. :D

I find it intimidating that Ronda Rousey and Serena Williams could kick my ass. What if we were dating and I wanted to break it off:

Me - Honey, we need to talk.

Her - Oh really, about what?

Me - Uh, that, uh, that casserole you made last night was terrific, honey. Smooches!


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