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Old 01-11-16, 07:58 PM
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Originally Posted by link0
Obsessing over bike weight is fun waste of money that we are all guilty of, but it will not improve your performance.
Originally Posted by Tulok
Instead of buying that carbon seat, borrow a beach cruiser or a $99 fixie. Do your same normal ride 1 time, and you'll be surprised at how little difference the bike makes at all.
You guys I've never been guilty of obsessing over bike weight let alone wasted more than $30 over it, but I sure as heck see a difference with a heavy fixie, that I couldn't even take over my normal rides.
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I thought we are all infected with a bit of weight weenie-ism. I mean... not like I really care or anything........ but I do know how much each of my 5 bikes weigh.
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Originally Posted by wphamilton
You guys I've never been guilty of obsessing over bike weight let alone wasted more than $30 over it, but I sure as heck see a difference with a heavy fixie, that I couldn't even take over my normal rides.
If my route is fairly flat, I wouldn't see any difference in completion times between my (abiet nice) steel single speed and my carbon roadie.

Weight-weenie-ing my bike is fun as hell though, cuz why not strive for equipment perfection?

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Aren't you afraid of those CF saddle rails snapping at the worst possible moment? I would be.
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Some of those Weight Weenies are nuts, in my opinion. Here are a couple of silly things I can remember from that forum:

1) After the stem and headset are set, some of them remove the fork compression plug and stem top-cap, just to cut a few grams.

2) Some of them use the incorrect, as thin as they can find, seatpost, and use a thick plastic/nylon shim.

In my opinion, this is too dumb for words. I thought they were joking, but the thread-starters got plenty of support.

There are others examples that I can't think of at the moment.
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Originally Posted by AlmostTrick
Aren't you afraid of those CF saddle rails snapping at the worst possible moment? I would be.
I wouldn't use them. I don't even like using titanium rails, coz I've seen several busted.
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Did they eliminate the WW forum, or am I just not seeing it?
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Originally Posted by AlmostTrick
Did they eliminate the WW forum, or am I just not seeing it?
Maybe they're all in hospital coz their 2kg bikes crumpled underneath them


. Here: Cycling community & forum for professional cyclists - Weight Weenies
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Originally Posted by tjk23
I am obsessive over my weight, also, so that really doesn't help the problem. And it is hard to justify the $2 a gram expense.
A very famous retired racer from Belgium once said, 'don't upgrade [to get faster], ride up grade.' Stop obsessing over the weight of your saddle. You could probably made a bigger difference with lighter weight handle bar tape or clothing.
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What happened over at WW on their component weight listings? Most everything has only about 2005 as the most recent entries.
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Originally Posted by 531Aussie
Maybe they're all in hospital coz their 2kg bikes crumpled underneath them


Thanks, but I seem to remember a WW sub forum right here on BF... not that I would have looked at it much. Maybe I'm imagining things.
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Originally Posted by AlmostTrick
Thanks, but I seem to remember a WW sub forum right here on BF... not that I would have looked at it much. Maybe I'm imagining things.
That section got cut to save bandwidth. It was on the outer edge of subforums so the saving was significant.
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Originally Posted by 531Aussie
Some of those Weight Weenies are nuts, in my opinion. Here are a couple of silly things I can remember from that forum:

1) After the stem and headset are set, some of them remove the fork compression plug and stem top-cap, just to cut a few grams.

2) Some of them use the incorrect, as thin as they can find, seatpost, and use a thick plastic/nylon shim.

In my opinion, this is too dumb for words. I thought they were joking, but the thread-starters got plenty of support.

There are others examples that I can't think of at the moment.
Yours are good examples of crazy and dangerous. But I've found in standard builds it is pretty easy to remove a few pounds. There are lighter steer tube plus.
As mentioned we change the cassette, cables/housing, a few bolts for lighter material, stem/bars, seat which is lighter and preferred, skewers and wheels and tires. Generally these parts are as good or better than what they replace and of course lighter.
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Originally Posted by Sy Reene
What happened over at WW on their component weight listings? Most everything has only about 2005 as the most recent entries.
They went upscale and loaded all the stuff into a google docs spreadsheet. There's a tab for each component type. If you're a weight weenie, it's awesome. You can download it and calculate to your heart's content. Was really a great resource when I was building a new bike and trying to figure out where the weight would come in.

Originally Posted by Tulok
Instead of buying that carbon seat, borrow a beach cruiser or a $99 fixie. Do your same normal ride 1 time, and you'll be surprised at how little difference the bike makes at all.
Seriously? This actually helps makes the case for weight weenie-ism.

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Originally Posted by rmfnla
Get a Brooks.
...but then you have to grow a grey beard and beards are sooo cliche now...
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Originally Posted by rpenmanparker
You just don't get it. Lighter bikes are more fun to ride. Forget about speed. No matter how much body weight you lose, you won't change the feel of riding the bike. Do what you want, but please quit telling people that it is about body weight.
Are you being serious here?
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Went from a 28-30 lbs hybrid...over to a 2013 Cannondale Synapse Alloy 105 components.

Entirely different animal: position, the shifting, weight, speed, everything.

Such a faster bike altogether...less effort for same or more go. To the fool that mentioned a Beach Cruiser being A-Ok... get him out of here! GET HIM OUT!

However - all that mentioned.. I will not be putting down big money for any reduced weight components. I bought my entire bike used for $600, I'm not going to shell out $250 for a component or two.

Not to mention.. I went weight nuts when I was building a rifle or two (other hobby).. and I found out at the end of it that the heavier ones were much better shooters... as some folks claim here that their heavier bikes are much smoother riders.. I believe it... lighter is not ALWAYS better.
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Originally Posted by jeichelberg87
Are you being serious here?
I think he is, and I sort of agree.

Not talking about grams here, but lighter bikes definitely are nicer to ride.

Weight doesn't matter if riding in a straight line at uniform speed, but that's not the real world. We're constantly accelerating and slowing down or climbing hills. Also the bike moves under us and this is easier when they're lighter. So again, not talking grams, but lighter is better. Anyone who doubts this try riding two similar bikes that weigh more than a few pounds different.
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Originally Posted by Psimet2001
...but then you have to grow a grey beard and beards are sooo cliche now...
I hope not!

I love my Brooks but I'll be damned if I'll grow a beard, cliche or not...
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Originally Posted by rmfnla
I love my Brooks but I'll be damned if I'll grow a beard, cliche or not...
Besides, beards are heavy ... unless they are red, which of course makes the beard faster, which hopefully won't pull your face off ... and carbon fiber beards are liable to explode, so not a safe way to save weight.

Unless you are a redhead, shaving everywhere would probably make you immeasurably faster.

I am currently seeking government grants to fund my study of weather riders with red-dyed beards are faster or slower than natural redheads.
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Originally Posted by jeichelberg87
Are you being serious here?
Yup.
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Originally Posted by FBinNY
I think he is, and I sort of agree.

Not talking about grams here, but lighter bikes definitely are nicer to ride.

Weight doesn't matter if riding in a straight line at uniform speed, but that's not the real world. We're constantly accelerating and slowing down or climbing hills. Also the bike moves under us and this is easier when they're lighter. So again, not talking grams, but lighter is better. Anyone who doubts this try riding two similar bikes that weigh more than a few pounds different.
Yes, that is my opinion exactly.
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Originally Posted by rpenmanparker
Yes, that is my opinion exactly.
Would you guys stop agreeing? You will kill this thread.

I agree too, but I am smart enough not to say so. We need controversy if we want 20 pages.
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Originally Posted by rpenmanparker
Yes, that is my opinion exactly.
If a one pound piece of lead was secretly attached to your bike both of you weightweenies would happily ride for years without noticing it.
True story.
Put that in your pipe and smoke it...
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