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Old 04-12-16 | 05:37 PM
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MOOTS Question

I just purchased a used MOOTS.
The sticker say "CR"
I called up MOOTS to find out the age of the bike.
The serial # on the bottom bracket was 55m6064.

The guy at MOOTS said the bike was made in 2005 and was a "Compact"
model... I asked why the sticker said "CR"...

He couldn't answer me.

Can somebody out there help me with this.
The bike has a straight top tube.

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I have a 2006 Moots Compact. The original decals had "Compact" on the top tube. I've since refreshed the decals with new Moots decals and the "Compact" decal wasn't available any longer. I suspect your Compact has new decals. My compact is a 57.5 and has a 6 degree top tube slope.
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Originally Posted by kenshireen
I just purchased a used MOOTS.
The sticker say "CR"
I called up MOOTS to find out the age of the bike.
The serial # on the bottom bracket was 55m6064.

The guy at MOOTS said the bike was made in 2005 and was a "Compact"
model... I asked why the sticker said "CR"...

He couldn't answer me.

Can somebody out there help me with this.
The bike has a straight top tube.

Thank you
Merlin's CR Ti models, the CR stood for "Compact Race".. fwiw
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Old 04-12-16 | 07:25 PM
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The CR designation came out - I believe - in 2009 or 2010. A prior owner probably had replacement decals put on.

Great bike btw. I've got a 2010 model.
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Old 04-12-16 | 10:38 PM
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Originally Posted by tony2v
I have a 2006 Moots Compact. The original decals had "Compact" on the top tube. I've since refreshed the decals with new Moots decals and the "Compact" decal wasn't available any longer. I suspect your Compact has new decals. My compact is a 57.5 and has a 6 degree top tube slope.
What measurement is the 57.5... Could you post a picture of the bike. My bike is a 55. I believe the TT is 55.5
The bike should look exactly like mine.... BTW do you know if the TI used in 2006 is the same as today

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Old 04-12-16 | 10:39 PM
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Originally Posted by tony2v
I have a 2006 Moots Compact. The original decals had "Compact" on the top tube. I've since refreshed the decals with new Moots decals and the "Compact" decal wasn't available any longer. I suspect your Compact has new decals. My compact is a 57.5 and has a 6 degree top tube slope.
What kind of a bike was the compact.... Did you buy yours new...
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Old 04-13-16 | 10:51 AM
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I bought it new in Sept 2006.
The 57.5cm size refers to the seat tube length. The ETT length is 57cm. The Ti used is 3/2.5 single gauge. I think I still have the 2006 Moots catalog. I'll post a picture of the specs and geometry if I find it.
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Originally Posted by tony2v
I have a 2006 Moots Compact. The original decals had "Compact" on the top tube. I've since refreshed the decals with new Moots decals and the "Compact" decal wasn't available any longer. I suspect your Compact has new decals. My compact is a 57.5 and has a 6 degree top tube slope.

Mine is a 2005 and the size is a 55M...I measured the ETT and it was 55.5
The Seat tube C-C is only 51 which is why the bike has a long seat post... If you measure you seat tube C-C I think you will find that it is not 57.5.
Thank you for the picture... my bike is the same except I have a MOOTS seat post and am looking for a MOOTS stem.

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Old 04-14-16 | 10:28 AM
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Moots uses their frame sizes as measured from center of BB to the top of the seat tube. And they still use this for their current frame sizes.
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Originally Posted by tony2v
Moots uses their frame sizes as measured from center of BB to the top of the seat tube. And they still use this for their current frame sizes.
This is a moot point.... but the bottom of my BB has the moot serial ID...it is 55M6069.
I took a tape measure and measured from the center of my BB to the top of my seat tube.
It was 51 cm. I did this twice and had my daughter confirm that my old eyesight wasn't failing.
My ETT did measure out at 55.5.
Can you please take an actual measurement of your bike... Although it is a larger frame I thinkg
you will find that C-C (bottom bracket to seat tube) is not 57.5.
Please do it and let me know.
We have the same model bike.... check out your serial # on the underside of the BB

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You're right, ETT is 57cm and the ST is 53.5cm.
Here's a copy of the Compact geometry from the 2006 catalog.

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Originally Posted by tony2v
Moots uses their frame sizes as measured from center of BB to the top of the seat tube. And they still use this for their current frame sizes.
If Moots uses standard sizing, this center of BB to top of seat tube means measuring to where the seat tube would end if a horizontal top tube were used, in other words, just above a horizontal line from the top of the top tube where it hits that head tube. This means their seat tube length would be several cms longer than BB to top of actual seat tube and consistent with what you are seeing.

Edit: I could not open Tony2v's picture.

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I was wrong. Moots uses the ETT measurement for their frame size except for the 60 and 62cm frames.
My frame's ETT is 57cm and they call it a 57.5 frame size.

https://moots.com/bike/vamoots-cr/

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Originally Posted by tony2v
You're right, ETT is 57cm and the ST is 53.5cm.
Here's a copy of the Compact geometry from the 2006 catalog.

Thanks for the specs... just curious but what is the "front center" measurement.
What kind of bike would you consider the compact....more or an endurance frame or a racer
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The Compact is considered a race frame. It's called a compact because of the up-sloped top tube vs the straight top tube of the VaMoots.
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