Modifying SPD-SL Cleats - Cutting off sides?
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Modifying SPD-SL Cleats - Cutting off sides?
I have a pretty specific question about SPD-SL cleats and I’ll explain why, but to put the question upfront-- Do the yellow tabs that form the bottom two points of the triangle on the cleats (sorry, can't post photo) serve a purpose besides giving you an extra point of contact with the ground when you’re walking (off the bike)? I’m wondering if I cut them off, would it have any negative effect that I’m missing?
Basically, I was broad-sided by a car that blew a stop sign. I ended up with a couple fractures and some ACL damage on my leg that the doctors say came from a twisting motion. No cuts/scratches on that side, so it never touched the ground/car. I suspect my foot got hung up in the pedal while I was busy eating it, because I didn’t really see it coming and went down hard. The outer point of that cleat was broken off where it looks like it got hooked/pulled off with quite a bit of force.
Maybe it wouldn’t have made any difference, but I’m curious if hacking off those back points would let my foot rotate out a little easier in the event of another surprise attack. It certainly doesn’t seem like I’d need those side “barriers” to keep my foot from rotating during regular riding, but they do create one more point that can get snagged while you’re rolling around on the ground. Maybe it’s half-baked, but just a thought. Anyone knowledgeable on the subject? I guess the other option is switching to multi-release pedals, but that means getting new gear..
Basically, I was broad-sided by a car that blew a stop sign. I ended up with a couple fractures and some ACL damage on my leg that the doctors say came from a twisting motion. No cuts/scratches on that side, so it never touched the ground/car. I suspect my foot got hung up in the pedal while I was busy eating it, because I didn’t really see it coming and went down hard. The outer point of that cleat was broken off where it looks like it got hooked/pulled off with quite a bit of force.
Maybe it wouldn’t have made any difference, but I’m curious if hacking off those back points would let my foot rotate out a little easier in the event of another surprise attack. It certainly doesn’t seem like I’d need those side “barriers” to keep my foot from rotating during regular riding, but they do create one more point that can get snagged while you’re rolling around on the ground. Maybe it’s half-baked, but just a thought. Anyone knowledgeable on the subject? I guess the other option is switching to multi-release pedals, but that means getting new gear..
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Those outer points don't really engage with the pedal at all. Cutting them off shouldn't do much, but it's also not going to help you release either. The pedal doesn't have anything for them to catch on.
The main thing hacking them off will do is dramatically increase the cleat wear, since you'd be walking directly on the interface part.
Looking at my shoes, that outer part sticks out well beyond the sole of my shoes, so it's likely to caught or smashed in any sort of serious impact.
The main thing hacking them off will do is dramatically increase the cleat wear, since you'd be walking directly on the interface part.
Looking at my shoes, that outer part sticks out well beyond the sole of my shoes, so it's likely to caught or smashed in any sort of serious impact.
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I have a pretty specific question about SPD-SL cleats and I’ll explain why, but to put the question upfront-- Do the yellow tabs that form the bottom two points of the triangle on the cleats (sorry, can't post photo) serve a purpose besides giving you an extra point of contact with the ground when you’re walking (off the bike)? I’m wondering if I cut them off, would it have any negative effect that I’m missing?
Basically, I was broad-sided by a car that blew a stop sign. I ended up with a couple fractures and some ACL damage on my leg that the doctors say came from a twisting motion. No cuts/scratches on that side, so it never touched the ground/car. I suspect my foot got hung up in the pedal while I was busy eating it, because I didn’t really see it coming and went down hard. The outer point of that cleat was broken off where it looks like it got hooked/pulled off with quite a bit of force.
Maybe it wouldn’t have made any difference, but I’m curious if hacking off those back points would let my foot rotate out a little easier in the event of another surprise attack. It certainly doesn’t seem like I’d need those side “barriers” to keep my foot from rotating during regular riding, but they do create one more point that can get snagged while you’re rolling around on the ground. Maybe it’s half-baked, but just a thought. Anyone knowledgeable on the subject? I guess the other option is switching to multi-release pedals, but that means getting new gear..
Basically, I was broad-sided by a car that blew a stop sign. I ended up with a couple fractures and some ACL damage on my leg that the doctors say came from a twisting motion. No cuts/scratches on that side, so it never touched the ground/car. I suspect my foot got hung up in the pedal while I was busy eating it, because I didn’t really see it coming and went down hard. The outer point of that cleat was broken off where it looks like it got hooked/pulled off with quite a bit of force.
Maybe it wouldn’t have made any difference, but I’m curious if hacking off those back points would let my foot rotate out a little easier in the event of another surprise attack. It certainly doesn’t seem like I’d need those side “barriers” to keep my foot from rotating during regular riding, but they do create one more point that can get snagged while you’re rolling around on the ground. Maybe it’s half-baked, but just a thought. Anyone knowledgeable on the subject? I guess the other option is switching to multi-release pedals, but that means getting new gear..
Also, I'd guess that messing with the cleat is more likely to cause some other problem or instability in the cleat that would lead to some other unintended consequence. It's not that complex of a mechanism but because of the litigious nature of bicycle equipment injuries, I'm betting that the pedal engineering team spent a lot of time an energy making sure that the pedal was designed correctly based on problems they had seen in their research. I'd be cautious about messing with that.
Having had a torn ACL from the days before they could repair them without an 8 month stint on crutches, I feel your pain. The coulda/shoulda/woulda feelings that go with that are about as tough as the rehab. Good luck to you.
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Do you have the release tension set as low as it will go? You can set it loose enough to the point where it will almost release when you don't want it to.
Let's be positive and think the likelihood of getting struck in the same manner again is very very remote... But if you set the release tension really low, it may release your foot more easily.
Let's be positive and think the likelihood of getting struck in the same manner again is very very remote... But if you set the release tension really low, it may release your foot more easily.
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I had the little yellow tab portion break off my right SPD-SL a few days ago. I was going to limp home, but decided instead to see how it worked since I don't get much riding time lately. I have since done two rides without any problem. Only thing is, make sure you don't cut into the mounting structure.
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Cutting off the corner tab means you will be more likely to damage the interface which will make more likely that you will have issues releasing. I wouldn't do it.
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All true.. probably wouldn't want to be walking on the engagement surface. Random thoughts of a couch-ridden person and I didn't have my shoes/bike here to look at... Here's to not taking another car though. I had the clamps pretty loose on the cleat, but had just put new cleats on, so it may have been more snug than it was previously.
Not sure, but it does seem like the multi-release may be better for an unexpected wipeout, car or no. I'm sure that's been covered previously on these forums though. Never had an issue with the SL ones, but a good wreck gets me thinking.
Not sure, but it does seem like the multi-release may be better for an unexpected wipeout, car or no. I'm sure that's been covered previously on these forums though. Never had an issue with the SL ones, but a good wreck gets me thinking.
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All true.. probably wouldn't want to be walking on the engagement surface. Random thoughts of a couch-ridden person and I didn't have my shoes/bike here to look at... Here's to not taking another car though. I had the clamps pretty loose on the cleat, but had just put new cleats on, so it may have been more snug than it was previously.
Not sure, but it does seem like the multi-release may be better for an unexpected wipeout, car or no. I'm sure that's been covered previously on these forums though. Never had an issue with the SL ones, but a good wreck gets me thinking.
Not sure, but it does seem like the multi-release may be better for an unexpected wipeout, car or no. I'm sure that's been covered previously on these forums though. Never had an issue with the SL ones, but a good wreck gets me thinking.
I would have to guess that getting an ACL injury on a bike is probably one of the lowest probability injuries of all. I would think you are far more likely to sustain upper body injuries - collarbone, wrists, arms, shoulders and head. Following that, I would think impact injuries of the lower extremities would be more likely - broken bones/hip etc... rather than an ACL injury. I'm not sure I'd spend time worrying about it.
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The main downside is that pulling up on the pedals also tends to make you pop out. Usually with really bad results, since your leg is suddenly flying. Mainly an issue if you suddenly want to sprint to make a light or something. I've never had that happen with SPD-SL.
Just something to think about, depending on your riding style. If you like get a good jump and hard sprints, multi-release may cause more issues than potentially solves.
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..... I was broad-sided by a car that blew a stop sign. I ended up with a couple fractures and some ACL damage on my leg that the doctors say came from a twisting motion. No cuts/scratches on that side, so it never touched the ground/car. I suspect my foot got hung up in the pedal .....
One popular suggestion will be defensive driving/cycling. Keep your head in the ride, be ever aware. Don't let the cars hit you in the first place. That is my favorite... and also the hardest to accomplish.
You'll also get a lot advocates for bright reflective clothing and blinky lights.
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