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In my case, my wife still has a car with a stick (another VW TDI). But my beef is that there are options I would like to have which don't come with the "base" models - the only way to get those is to go to a higher trim level which don't offer a manual as an option. Sometimes things as simple as heated seats (my wife tells me to never purchase a car without heated seats). My current car has two climate zones, which I appreciate as otherwise my wife is constantly turn down the temperature, and I am trying to sneak it back up again because I am freezing. You can't get that in a base trim level car.
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I miss our TDI Sportwagen.
All Dieselgate stuff aside that was a great driving car.
All Dieselgate stuff aside that was a great driving car.
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Yuck, too sweet and too gummy for my tastes, clings to your teeth, ugh!
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I like shifting my own gears, but the reality is autos and autosticks are getting to or at the point of being more efficient and providing better performance than the same car with a stick.
FWIW, my element is a stick and gets lower mpg than the automatic... mostly because in the Element the sticks came with what I think is too low of final drive for better acceleration... as if I care how well a vehicle shaped like a toaster accelerates.
FWIW, my element is a stick and gets lower mpg than the automatic... mostly because in the Element the sticks came with what I think is too low of final drive for better acceleration... as if I care how well a vehicle shaped like a toaster accelerates.
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If I knew a good curler I would hire him or her to scrub my floors. They would be in and out in no time.
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Interesting. That hasn't been my personal experience at all.
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Did you mean real gravel or that make-believe bicycling gravel?
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Yes. Not all, mind you, but enough to see a pattern.
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Oops, saw the "stick required" comment. Disregard my post.
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Reported: insult to masculinity.
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