My garmin 800 is getting old, beat up and starting to fail more regularly. Looking at the Elemnt.

Does anyone know if it can show "future elevation" like the Garmin? What I'm trying to describe is the screen on the Garmin that, when riding a preloaded course, future mountains. I use this feature a lot on mountain cookie rides when I'm not overly familiar with the route.

If you're following a route, it does show elevation changes that are up ahead.

The Wahoo Bolt has a "climbing page" if that is what you are talking about.

The Elemnt Bolt as an elevation profile section at the bottom of one of the default pages for a preloaded route from Ride with GPS. You can zoom in and zoom out of the profile as well, changing thee scale.

eric/fresno, ca.

It does, but it's almost useless because it doesn't show either horizontal or vertical scale, and it doesn't show what's behind you, so you can't look at it and say "oh, I'm half way up the hill now." It's one of very few things I really don't like about my bolt.

Yep, I agree with this. I don't use the climbing page very much at all though so it doesn't bother me at all. I still love my Bolt.

Can you expand on inaccuracies? I too am running a PM and a Bolt, but have not noticed anything out of the ordinary.

what are you doing with the 800? sell it to a brother for cheap

I'm just going to keep it until it completely breaks. I don't want the Bolt due to the elevation page issues noted above as that singular feature is very important to me. And all my buddies constantly complain about the newer garmins when it rains. The touchscreen is useless at that point they say - even sweat messes with it.

Mine is very accurate on all metrics. I train on a CompuTrainer which measures speed, cadence and power separately, and the trainer and the Bolt match almost perfectly.

My Bolt provides very consistent metrics with my Powertap G3 powermeter. I like my bolt a lot. But, I don't use the navigation/elevation features much.

Interesting, I have only noticed that once. I use a Stages Gen III (non drive side) PM. I've only had it for about two weeks. My cadence numbers have been spot on except for this one incident where I really hammered it on a sprint. Do you think there is a relationship between the amount of power and higher than normal cadence? I wasn't spinning (at least I thought I wasn't...I was in a pretty big gear and it certainly did not feel like I was going above 120RPM.

Mine does that all the time. I have no idea why. You would know if you were pedaling that fast. That is in the elite track sprinter range.

My Bolt handles cadence just fine from my 4iiii PM.

The one issue that I wish they'd fix is setting a known elevation. Hate it that some days I start out from my house, it can be a few hundred feet off, usually depending on weather. Cold/wet/cloudy/windy days it never gets the elevation right. Seems like a ridiculously easy thing to implement.

I've gotten that too. And i got the exact same figures on my Garmin edge, which I use at the same time. So the wacky data is coming from in my case a DuoTrap.

It's not apparently.

Better units use a barometer, which is sensitive to temperature and humidity, not to mention is the sensor port obstructed (moisture ?).

All GPS can do a very rough altitude calculation, but they are know to have significant errors in elevation as opposed to horizontal position. Good quick article here that is still pertinent.

Altitude Accuracy

The Bolt does have a barometric altimeter.

I just got my Bolt, with the kit (cadence, speed and HR). Still learning how to use it.

I'd appreciate knowing more about the speed sensor and how the Bolt unit uses the data. For instance does Bolt rely on the sensor to calculate distance? Also, is there a way to compare the speed sensor to GPS readings to check for sensor calibration differences?

I'm on my second Bolt, and just like the first one, the climbing is overstated by 15% to 20% on every-single-ride. (It's the only real negative aspect of the Bolt for me.)

I know this because I use a second computer (Specialized Elite) as well...In the past, my Elite matched my Garmin 500 (often within 10's of feet, sometimes less) over hilly 30 to 100 mile routes.

Similarly, my Elite and Garmin data were usually very close to the data recorded by others on my rides and that predicted by RWGPS.

Now--I'm consistently the outlier with the Bolt returning higher climbing data than my Elite, my fellow riders, and the climbing predicted/expected by RWGPS.