The Newest and Most Improved Hot or Not
#2501
I climb a lot


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#2502
Senior Member

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#2504
Thread Starter
So it is


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From: Westminster, CO
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#2505
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#2506
I AM AI
Joined: Aug 2013
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From: Tucson, AZ
Bikes: 2008 S-Works Roubaix SL, 1979 Raleigh Comp GS, 1978 Schwinn Volare



2008 Roubaix SL
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#2510
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Cool looking that deserves better staging.
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#2511
Steel is real



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#2512
I AM AI
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From: Tucson, AZ
Bikes: 2008 S-Works Roubaix SL, 1979 Raleigh Comp GS, 1978 Schwinn Volare
So this, plus the deafening silence from the rest of the crowd, says "Not Hot." But since it isn't not hot enough to get the real Not Hot treatment like some others, I wonder -- can an aging Zertz-equipped bike become hot again? ...or is it now a middle-aged showgirl, passable but forever consigned to the background?
I can envision carbon stem, modern rims, probably black tape because there's just too much white right now. The chainring is ugly AF for sure. Curious what others see.
I can envision carbon stem, modern rims, probably black tape because there's just too much white right now. The chainring is ugly AF for sure. Curious what others see.
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A race bike in any era is a highly personal choice that at its "best" balances the requirements of fit, weight, handling, durability and cost tempered by the willingness to toss it and oneself down the pavement at considerable speed. ~Bandera
A race bike in any era is a highly personal choice that at its "best" balances the requirements of fit, weight, handling, durability and cost tempered by the willingness to toss it and oneself down the pavement at considerable speed. ~Bandera
#2513
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From: Altadena, CA
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So this, plus the deafening silence from the rest of the crowd, says "Not Hot." But since it isn't not hot enough to get the real Not Hot treatment like some others, I wonder -- can an aging Zertz-equipped bike become hot again? ...or is it now a middle-aged showgirl, passable but forever consigned to the background?
I can envision carbon stem, modern rims, probably black tape because there's just too much white right now. The chainring is ugly AF for sure. Curious what others see.
I can envision carbon stem, modern rims, probably black tape because there's just too much white right now. The chainring is ugly AF for sure. Curious what others see.
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RIP 01/08/25...2022 Trek Supercaliber, 2018 Storck Fascenario.3 Platinum, 2018 Trek Procaliber SL Singlespeed, 2017 Bear BR1, 2003 Time VX Special Pro, 2001 Colnago VIP, 1999 Trek 9900 singlespeed, 1977 Nishiki ONP
RIP 01/08/25...2022 Trek Supercaliber, 2018 Storck Fascenario.3 Platinum, 2018 Trek Procaliber SL Singlespeed, 2017 Bear BR1, 2003 Time VX Special Pro, 2001 Colnago VIP, 1999 Trek 9900 singlespeed, 1977 Nishiki ONP
#2514
I AM AI
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From: Tucson, AZ
Bikes: 2008 S-Works Roubaix SL, 1979 Raleigh Comp GS, 1978 Schwinn Volare
IMO, it's in that in-between era where it's not really "classic/vintage", and it's not up to date with modern design. I expect that the bike rides very nicely, and performs every bit as well as it always has. Being that this thread is a beauty contest, "middle aged showgirl" is probably an apt analogy. Updating parts won't change the exposed cable routing and era-trend graphics, but would help get the most out of what you're working with. Personally, I think the white saddle and bar tape work well on that bike. If it were mine, I would trim the steerer so the top cap sits flush on the stem (if you're still trying to dial in your fit, don't do this).
Rides nicely: Absolutely yes, especially when it's smoothing out some of Tucson's sketchier roads. I suppose in those moments it's still Hot. hahaha
Trim the steerer: Very tempting, but the bike isn't the only one aging around here. Best to keep it in case I need to adjust upward for my old self in the future.
Appreciate the input!
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A race bike in any era is a highly personal choice that at its "best" balances the requirements of fit, weight, handling, durability and cost tempered by the willingness to toss it and oneself down the pavement at considerable speed. ~Bandera
A race bike in any era is a highly personal choice that at its "best" balances the requirements of fit, weight, handling, durability and cost tempered by the willingness to toss it and oneself down the pavement at considerable speed. ~Bandera
#2515
Bike Hoarder


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Bikes: Madone Gen 7, Team Machine R01, Ritchey Breakaway, Checkpoint, BMC Kaius
#2516
Bike Hoarder


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Bikes: Madone Gen 7, Team Machine R01, Ritchey Breakaway, Checkpoint, BMC Kaius
So this, plus the deafening silence from the rest of the crowd, says "Not Hot." But since it isn't not hot enough to get the real Not Hot treatment like some others, I wonder -- can an aging Zertz-equipped bike become hot again? ...or is it now a middle-aged showgirl, passable but forever consigned to the background?
I can envision carbon stem, modern rims, probably black tape because there's just too much white right now. The chainring is ugly AF for sure. Curious what others see.
I can envision carbon stem, modern rims, probably black tape because there's just too much white right now. The chainring is ugly AF for sure. Curious what others see.
Cockpit could be an upgrade, but honestly if you like the way it rides, why change it.
#2517
Thread Starter
So it is


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From: Westminster, CO
Bikes: Luzerne, 684, Boreas, Wheelhouse, Alize©®, Bayamo, Cayo
So this, plus the deafening silence from the rest of the crowd, says "Not Hot." But since it isn't not hot enough to get the real Not Hot treatment like some others, I wonder -- can an aging Zertz-equipped bike become hot again? ...or is it now a middle-aged showgirl, passable but forever consigned to the background?
I can envision carbon stem, modern rims, probably black tape because there's just too much white right now. The chainring is ugly AF for sure. Curious what others see.
I can envision carbon stem, modern rims, probably black tape because there's just too much white right now. The chainring is ugly AF for sure. Curious what others see.
FWIW, my vintage Ridley is around the same age.
#2518
I climb a lot


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IMO, the 3 changeable things that easily make a bike "hot," regardless of age, are color coordination, bar position, and deep section carbon wheels. A lot of the 2000s and 2010s bikes have fairly garish color/graphics schemes. Finding component/accessories that match those schemes, can be difficult IMO.
I posted my circa 2013 Canyon Ultimate on here a couple years back. It received a "hot" however, I think that particular bike is borderline "meh" in real life. The main reason being the wheels are only 38mm deep carbon wheels. When it had deeper wheels, it was unquestionably a good looking bike in my eyes. Even when I do think it's a good looking bike, it's because I'm viewing the bike through the lens of form follows function. It's a climbing bike with virtually no aero considerations, so shallow wheels get a pass. Even at that, the "hotness" difference is made by the color coordination and the fact that the stem is nearly slammed.
I posted my circa 2013 Canyon Ultimate on here a couple years back. It received a "hot" however, I think that particular bike is borderline "meh" in real life. The main reason being the wheels are only 38mm deep carbon wheels. When it had deeper wheels, it was unquestionably a good looking bike in my eyes. Even when I do think it's a good looking bike, it's because I'm viewing the bike through the lens of form follows function. It's a climbing bike with virtually no aero considerations, so shallow wheels get a pass. Even at that, the "hotness" difference is made by the color coordination and the fact that the stem is nearly slammed.
#2519
Bike Hoarder


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From: 757
Bikes: Madone Gen 7, Team Machine R01, Ritchey Breakaway, Checkpoint, BMC Kaius
IMO, the 3 changeable things that easily make a bike "hot," regardless of age, are color coordination, bar position, and deep section carbon wheels. A lot of the 2000s and 2010s bikes have fairly garish color/graphics schemes. Finding component/accessories that match those schemes, can be difficult IMO.
I posted my circa 2013 Canyon Ultimate on here a couple years back. It received a "hot" however, I think that particular bike is borderline "meh" in real life. The main reason being the wheels are only 38mm deep carbon wheels. When it had deeper wheels, it was unquestionably a good looking bike in my eyes. Even when I do think it's a good looking bike, it's because I'm viewing the bike through the lens of form follows function. It's a climbing bike with virtually no aero considerations, so shallow wheels get a pass. Even at that, the "hotness" difference is made by the color coordination and the fact that the stem is nearly slammed.
I posted my circa 2013 Canyon Ultimate on here a couple years back. It received a "hot" however, I think that particular bike is borderline "meh" in real life. The main reason being the wheels are only 38mm deep carbon wheels. When it had deeper wheels, it was unquestionably a good looking bike in my eyes. Even when I do think it's a good looking bike, it's because I'm viewing the bike through the lens of form follows function. It's a climbing bike with virtually no aero considerations, so shallow wheels get a pass. Even at that, the "hotness" difference is made by the color coordination and the fact that the stem is nearly slammed.
But that obed though. Sizzle.
#2520
Sunshine
Joined: Aug 2014
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From: Des Moines, IA
Bikes: '18 class built steel roadbike, '19 Fairlight Secan, '88 Schwinn Premis , Black Mountain Cycles Monstercross V4, '89 Novara Trionfo
So this, plus the deafening silence from the rest of the crowd, says "Not Hot." But since it isn't not hot enough to get the real Not Hot treatment like some others, I wonder -- can an aging Zertz-equipped bike become hot again? ...or is it now a middle-aged showgirl, passable but forever consigned to the background?
I can envision carbon stem, modern rims, probably black tape because there's just too much white right now. The chainring is ugly AF for sure. Curious what others see.
I can envision carbon stem, modern rims, probably black tape because there's just too much white right now. The chainring is ugly AF for sure. Curious what others see.
To be clear though, itll still be a 17 year old frame with a dated looking top tube curve and cyst looking zertz on the seat stays.
#2521
I AM AI
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From: Tucson, AZ
Bikes: 2008 S-Works Roubaix SL, 1979 Raleigh Comp GS, 1978 Schwinn Volare
I bet it would look cooler with 40mm carbon rims, black tires, black bar tape, black saddle, black crankset and rings, black brakes, and black RD...so all black everything with the blue frame.
To be clear though, itll still be a 17 year old frame with a dated looking top tube curve and cyst looking zertz on the seat stays.
To be clear though, itll still be a 17 year old frame with a dated looking top tube curve and cyst looking zertz on the seat stays.
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A race bike in any era is a highly personal choice that at its "best" balances the requirements of fit, weight, handling, durability and cost tempered by the willingness to toss it and oneself down the pavement at considerable speed. ~Bandera
A race bike in any era is a highly personal choice that at its "best" balances the requirements of fit, weight, handling, durability and cost tempered by the willingness to toss it and oneself down the pavement at considerable speed. ~Bandera
#2522
I climb a lot


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#2523
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RIP 01/08/25...2022 Trek Supercaliber, 2018 Storck Fascenario.3 Platinum, 2018 Trek Procaliber SL Singlespeed, 2017 Bear BR1, 2003 Time VX Special Pro, 2001 Colnago VIP, 1999 Trek 9900 singlespeed, 1977 Nishiki ONP
#2524
I climb a lot


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#2525
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RIP 01/08/25...2022 Trek Supercaliber, 2018 Storck Fascenario.3 Platinum, 2018 Trek Procaliber SL Singlespeed, 2017 Bear BR1, 2003 Time VX Special Pro, 2001 Colnago VIP, 1999 Trek 9900 singlespeed, 1977 Nishiki ONP









