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Old 06-20-21 | 09:54 PM
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That MoJo article is from 2014. Most makers of water bottles are aware of the concerns about BPA, so I'm sure they'd have responded by now. Why not contact CamelBak directly and ask about their composition and testing for current products?
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Old 06-20-21 | 09:56 PM
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Water bottle buyer's remorse.
Nice. That was hilarious 😂😂
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I'll admit it that I lack the forearm strength needed to squeeze my stainless waterbottles hard enough for them to work as well as my camelbaks.
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Old 06-21-21 | 09:55 AM
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I'll admit it that I lack the forearm strength needed to squeeze my stainless waterbottles hard enough for them to work as well as my camelbaks.
Thanks, I have one coming today and if that's a problem back it goes.
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Originally Posted by canklecat
Why not contact CamelBak directly and ask about their composition and testing for current products?
Or look at their website:

https://www.camelbak.com/bottles-faq.html

All of our bottles and reservoirs are 100% free of BPA, BPS and BPF. Our products go through rigorous third-party testing to ensure that no harmful chemicals will leach into food or beverages.”

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Old 06-21-21 | 10:26 AM
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I'll admit it that I lack the forearm strength needed to squeeze my stainless waterbottles hard enough for them to work as well as my camelbaks.
And, if I could squeeze them to work in that way, they'd be single use items.
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Old 06-21-21 | 10:37 AM
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Or look at their website:

https://www.camelbak.com/bottles-faq.html

All of our bottles and reservoirs are 100% free of BPA, BPS and BPF. Our products go through rigorous third-party testing to ensure that no harmful chemicals will leach into food or beverages.”
They are the poster boy here:
https://daily.jstor.org/how-safe-is-bpa-free-plastic/
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I'm more concerned about the water itself and what may be in it as opposed to plastic bottles made to todays standards. But only concerned enough to put a whole house filter on my incoming water supply.
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Originally Posted by popeye
My comment does not address the veracity of their claims but rather that it's not necessary to contact CamelBak to ascertain bottle compositions. RCIF.

Do with what you will with the information.
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Thanks, I have one coming today and if that's a problem back it goes.
It would be out of character for a guy named 'popeye' to lack forearm strength.
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Old 06-21-21 | 11:15 AM
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I'm more concerned about the water itself and what may be in it as opposed to plastic bottles made to todays standards. But only concerned enough to put a whole house filter on my incoming water supply.
Here is the deal with R/O water, I have one. R/O water is almost pure it will dissolve whatever minerals/chemicals it can at that temp/pressure.
Rainwater is relatively pure and it dissolves mountains. Tap water is full of stuff and as such is naturally buffered and is not going pickup more
pollutants at the same rate so using relatively clean water may just make things worse. Any chemists (not internet) in here?
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It would be out of character for a guy named 'popeye' to lack forearm strength.
POTD.

Or maybe he doesn't like spinich.
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POTD.

Or maybe he doesn't like spinich.
Then how can he fight to the finach?
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Here is the deal with R/O water, I have one. R/O water is almost pure it will dissolve whatever minerals/chemicals it can at that temp/pressure.
Rainwater is relatively pure and it dissolves mountains. Tap water is full of stuff and as such is naturally buffered and is not going pickup more
pollutants at the same rate so using relatively clean water may just make things worse. Any chemists (not internet) in here?

Yikes.

Ya..chemist here and...don't quit your day job. How you think things work..well..that ain't how it works. Go back and study some basic chemistry.
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I don’t know about these products with regard to BPAs or other harmful chemicals. But I can tell you they’re dangerous if you’re stupid and you use them wrong.

Camelback tells you to put only water in their bladders. Do not ignore this instruction. Do not put in Gatorade or any other sugary fluid.

If you choose to sip Gatorade from it, be absolutely sure to clean the bladder very thoroughly after your ride, and then let it dry out.

Whatever you do, never set it down in your hotel room with traces of Gatorade remaining, forget it for about about a week, then fill it with water and go on another ride, drinking the moldy residue along the way.

Don’t ask me how I know. Just trust that this will make you sick.
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Heck, I get nervous about the nozzle of the bottle I used to wash down some gel mid-ride. Things get nasty fast.
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Old 06-21-21 | 04:56 PM
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Camelbak bladders are pretty minging when used with energy drinks, but I survived many years using them for mountain biking. I did clean them pretty well though.

I find bottles a lot easier to deal with and only use those now.
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Old 06-21-21 | 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by fishboat
Yikes.

Ya..chemist here and...don't quit your day job. How you think things work..well..that ain't how it works. Go back and study some basic chemistry.
Help me out here Fishboat. Is not CP water like a sponge and will absorb any chemicals present up to some limit (mole?) at a temp/pressure? We are
talking about RO here which is not CP but not too far off. I have and use TDS and PH meters that are regularly calibrated. The TDS of my RO is just a
handfull of digits. I speculated that the purer the water the more chemicals that might be absorbed. What am I missing?
Distilled water is prohibited in municipal water systems because it leaches the calcium from bones and teeth if I remember correctly.

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It would be out of character for a guy named 'popeye' to lack forearm strength.
At 5'8" and 135.4 lbs don't bet on it.
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I just bought a new Podium insulated and the insulation is so much better than my old one and I was very happy
until I read these articles this AM. First I saw this one:
https://scitechdaily.com/biologists-...-plasticizers/
Ok that does not sound good so I checked the Camelbak's here:
https://www.motherjones.com/environm...ene-dangerous/
Nalgene green looks good but what is available for cyclists?

sigh.....everyday, something kills you, everyday, what was killing you the day before is not so bad today.....meh....been using them for years...not worried about it.
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I do have a plan though, maybe Camelbak just quits selling their products in CA then you wont be at risk. It seems everything in CA causes cancer based on the fact that everything is shipped to me comes with a Prop 65 warning.
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Originally Posted by popeye
Help me out here Fishboat. Is not CP water like a sponge and will absorb any chemicals present up to some limit (mole?) at a temp/pressure? We are
talking about RO here which is not CP but not too far off. I have and use TDS and PH meters that are regularly calibrated. The TDS of my RO is just a
handfull of digits. I speculated that the purer the water the more chemicals that might be absorbed. What am I missing?
Distilled water is prohibited in municipal water systems because it leaches the calcium from bones and teeth if I remember correctly.

Sorry..not going down that rabbit hole as it'll never end..and I value my time.

I'm sure there's lots of resources on the web if you do some searching. One last bit of advice, don't risk any money on your understanding of this chemistry.
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Sorry..not going down that rabbit hole as it'll never end..and I value my time.

I'm sure there's lots of resources on the web if you do some searching. One last bit of advice, don't risk any money on your understanding of this chemistry.
You come throwing rocks but your unwilling to back it up? Come on just point out a single glowing error on my part. You're not really a chemist are you?
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