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Old 08-15-23, 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by bampilot06
2 questions:

Can someone recommend a cheap reliable bottle cage that they have used in the past. Preferably carbon but want it to be light as possible.

Why would a bike company limit tire size on a bike when clearance is not an issue. Example. My old emonda was limited to 28 mm tires. I threw 32 on it yesterday when I sold it, (without thinking) and noticed there was still plenty of room. A 34 would have fit but would have been too tight for my liking.

My new emonda is being built, I have 30s on it now but will need new tires soon and would like to go back to 32s. Just wondering if I am missing something. To me, if it fits and you have clearance than what difference does it make?
Just make sure you have at least 4mm clearance on each side and at the crown of the tire - use a 4mm hex as a feeler gauge - that's generally the minimum recommended. Frame manufacturers might be a little conservative with their recommendations right now, with super wide modern rims and slightly older, oversized tires both on the market simultaneously.

The Bontrager cages work fine, even the cheapie plastic ones, which is what I have on the Cervelo. The CF versions are lighter, of course. Have JP cut you a bro deal.
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Originally Posted by bampilot06
2 questions:

Can someone recommend a cheap reliable bottle cage that they have used in the past. Preferably carbon but want it to be light as possible.

Why would a bike company limit tire size on a bike when clearance is not an issue. Example. My old emonda was limited to 28 mm tires. I threw 32 on it yesterday when I sold it, (without thinking) and noticed there was still plenty of room. A 34 would have fit but would have been too tight for my liking.

My new emonda is being built, I have 30s on it now but will need new tires soon and would like to go back to 32s. Just wondering if I am missing something. To me, if it fits and you have clearance than what difference does it make?
I don’t think it’s a matter of limits. I think they have a design brief, and spec them to optimize the design in one way or another.

Why do you want 32s instead of 30s or 28s?
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It worked for pain killers. For a while at least.
Not quite. Those drugs were, and are approved, and the side effects known. What Purdue did was to have their sales reps tout ONE research article that suggested they weren't addictive like other opiates.

What I'm talking about is the scenario in "The Fugitive", where a "promising cardiovascular drug" outright kills patients IN THE CLINICAL TRIAL, yet the company covers it up and no one is the wiser, and the company is poised to make billions. Because nobody will notice all the people dying after they take it.
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Originally Posted by Bah Humbug
I really think our thing with British accents (and meaning the posh ones, of course) is a long societal memory of when that was how the ruling class spoke and so we assign such admiration to it.

Total ********, of course.
Yeah, just listen to any US president before Truman or contemporary network radio announcer.
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Originally Posted by Mojo31
I don’t think it’s a matter of limits. I think they have a design brief, and spec them to optimize the design in one way or another.

Why do you want 32s instead of 30s or 28s?

I guess it really doesn’t matter. Just liked the way 32 looks.
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Friday evening my wife and I went to Changs for dinner, and were celebrating her birthday. When we got our fortune cookies, hers said she would soon come into wealth. Mine said “a new love is right around the corner.”

We both looked at each other with “WTF” looks on our faces.
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Originally Posted by WhyFi
Just make sure you have at least 4mm clearance on each side and at the crown of the tire - use a 4mm hex as a feeler gauge - that's generally the minimum recommended. Frame manufacturers might be a little conservative with their recommendations right now, with super wide modern rims and slightly older, oversized tires both on the market simultaneously.

The Bontrager cages work fine, even the cheapie plastic ones, which is what I have on the Cervelo. The CF versions are lighter, of course. Have JP cut you a bro deal.

He swears by the bat cages, cheap and they never drop a bottle. All sold out in store and online.
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Originally Posted by Mojo31
Friday evening my wife and I went to Changs for dinner, and were celebrating her birthday. When we got our fortune cookies, hers said she would soon come into wealth. Mine said “a new love is right around the corner.”

We both looked at each other with “WTF” looks on our faces.

Fortune cookies never lie.
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Originally Posted by bampilot06
I guess it really doesn’t matter. Just liked the way 32 looks.
Good a reason as any.
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Originally Posted by bampilot06
Fortune cookies never lie.
What does it mean though?
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Originally Posted by Mojo31
What does it mean though?
To expect that your new hot dish comes with a side of alimony.
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Originally Posted by Mojo31
What does it mean though?
You'll cheat on her with the "new love", and she'll take you to the cleaners?
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Originally Posted by WhyFi
To expect that your new hot dish comes with a side of alimony.
I like the way you expressed it better than the way I did.
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Originally Posted by bampilot06
I guess it really doesn’t matter. Just liked the way 32 looks.
I thought you were one of them skinny, spidery guys. 32s are overkill for you unless you're routinely riding Belgian cobbles.
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Originally Posted by WhyFi
To expect that your new hot dish comes with a side of alimony.
Originally Posted by genejockey
You'll cheat on her with the "new love", and she'll take you to the cleaners?
There is no hot dish that’s worth the price tag. Lol
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Originally Posted by Mojo31
There is no hot dish that’s worth the price tag. Lol
Tell that to Jeff Bezos.
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Originally Posted by genejockey
Tell that to Jeff Bezos.
Bezos had a lot more to give away without suffering than I do. I’d be wiped out and handling traffic tickets to eat.
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Originally Posted by Mojo31
Bezos had a lot more to give away without suffering than I do. I’d be wiped out and handling traffic tickets to eat.
So, "When you've got nothing you've got nothing to lose".

When you have EVERYTHING, and you lose half of it, you still have plenty.

But if you've got SOME, you can't afford to lose any of it.
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Originally Posted by Mojo31
What does it mean though?

Sounds like a perfect opening for a dateline episode.
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Originally Posted by bampilot06
HA COMPLETED UNDER 6 HOURS.

Strategically Broke my phone in half as I was loading my bike in the car when this torture fest was over. Currently trying to build my life back.
Great pictures and it looks like a great ride! Mostly paved, it appears?
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Originally Posted by genejockey
I thought you were one of them skinny, spidery guys. 32s are overkill for you unless you're routinely riding Belgian cobbles.

this summer i’ve been closer to 170 than 155.
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Originally Posted by bampilot06
this summer i’ve been closer to 170 than 155.
Still.
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Originally Posted by big john
Great pictures and it looks like a great ride! Mostly paved, it appears?

I would say it was 50/50 paved and not paved.
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Dew point is 77F. That’s moist!
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Originally Posted by genejockey
So, "When you've got nothing you've got nothing to lose".

When you have EVERYTHING, and you lose half of it, you still have plenty.

But if you've got SOME, you can't afford to lose any of it.
Loss aversion.
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