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Old 11-21-23, 07:37 AM
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Originally Posted by datlas
It's a really good anesthesia for procedures. I have had it twice (two colonoscopies), the only annoyance is a mild burning in the vein when they start it, but yeah, as long as you are being monitored closely it's VERY safe. If someone hooks you up at the Neverland Ranch and goes out for a smoke, there is a chance you might not wake up.
I get the burning.

There was a Temple Med anesthesiologist resident that used to come to my local for happy hour. Nice guy. When MJ died, he explained exactly that about the drug; that it is easier than others to overdose someone with. He literally called the doc's action criminal. He ended up going to work in New Brunswick, NJ.
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I always thought that the state of Oregon could save a bunch of money by having one team for Oregon State and the U of O.
Frankly on the west coast there's only enough sportsball interest to support one school per state. Including California.
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Originally Posted by Velo Vol
Frankly on the west coast there's only enough sportsball interest to support one school per state. Including California.
Too much else to do out here! The "best coast" proponent in me wants to argue that we have more arts/music, cultural and outdoor recreation opportunities due to mostly favorable weather, but that's probably a bit reductive.

I probably embody this... don't really follow any pro ball sports, but I will watch (and enjoy) football, baseball or basketball if it's on wherever I am. Still, even in fairly bohemian parts of the city, it's not hard to find a sports pub or bar on a Sunday with plenty of fans having some beers, lunch and watching the pigskin game. But, maybe in other parts of America, it's a higher density or something?

also why no basketball in this thread??? I used to play in middle school and HS and enjoy watching it as much as the other two big American sports. LesterOfPuppets Velo Vol.
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Originally Posted by phrantic09
Need a chef’s knife recommendation from you knowledgeable peeps. Wife wants one for Christmas.

Also- some dude nearby is selling an Emonda SL frame in my size w/ seatmast, bar and stem for 1100. It’s pretty mint looking and very tempting
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Lilly has seemed to have reverted back to needing to feed twice per night, for the last couple at least. grumble grumble. hopefully its just a phase
Seems unlikely to carry on infinitely. Just how long the phase is. /pedant
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You got something against free range chicken?
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The wind shook the house all night again. A small branch fell on the water heater enclosure outside the bedroom window and scared me into going out to investigate.
40 mph winds are predicted for the usual Tuesday riding area so we will be going to the wind sheltered area instead. Last time it took me 45 minutes to drive the 16 miles to the start. Always reminds me of driving to work.

We are starting early so the pizza by the slice place won't be open when we get there so it's going to be breakfast burritos again.
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Originally Posted by TMonk
Too much else to do out here! The "best coast" proponent in me wants to argue that we have more arts/music, cultural and outdoor recreation opportunities due to mostly favorable weather, but that's probably a bit reductive.

I probably embody this... don't really follow any pro ball sports, but I will watch (and enjoy) football, baseball or basketball if it's on wherever I am. Still, even in fairly bohemian parts of the city, it's not hard to find a sports pub or bar on a Sunday with plenty of fans having some beers, lunch and watching the pigskin game. But, maybe in other parts of America, it's a higher density or something?

also why no basketball in this thread??? I used to play in middle school and HS and enjoy watching it as much as the other two big American sports. LesterOfPuppets Velo Vol.
rjones28, Sr. played basketball through college. I went to a Big 5 school for college.
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Originally Posted by rjones28
rjones28, Sr. played basketball through college. I went to a Big 5 school for college.
The only basketball I played in school was during gym class.
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Originally Posted by TMonk
Too much else to do out here! The "best coast" proponent in me wants to argue that we have more arts/music, cultural and outdoor recreation opportunities due to mostly favorable weather, but that's probably a bit reductive.

I probably embody this... don't really follow any pro ball sports, but I will watch (and enjoy) football, baseball or basketball if it's on wherever I am. Still, even in fairly bohemian parts of the city, it's not hard to find a sports pub or bar on a Sunday with plenty of fans having some beers, lunch and watching the pigskin game. But, maybe in other parts of America, it's a higher density or something?

also why no basketball in this thread??? I used to play in middle school and HS and enjoy watching it as much as the other two big American sports. LesterOfPuppets Velo Vol.
i don’t think you’re all that far off - but i think it’s more general than that. universities and their fan bases / alumnus in bigger, denser metro areas are just much less intense in their sports interests. think of columbia, harvard, mit, northwestern, even berkeley or stanford. yes, they have fans, but it’s nothing like football in the midwest. usc and ucla may be exceptions, but even so the average angeleno doesn’t give a ****, whereas the average person from any medium sized midwestern town with a big division 1 football program probably is rabid by comparison and also follows whatever nfl team is within 500 miles!
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Originally Posted by TMonk

also why no basketball in this thread??? I used to play in middle school and HS and enjoy watching it as much as the other two big American sports. LesterOfPuppets Velo Vol.
I don't watch college sports but I do like the NBA. It's hard to find other NBA fans to chat with here or in the road club. When I was working the biggest NBA fan I knew was a parts guy from El Salvador. We could talk Lakers or Clippers or playoffs and he knew way more than I did. I still look forward to seeing him when I go there to visit or get parts.

Another guy who was the manager played fantasy basketball. He knew the players wives and kids names, where they grew up and went to school, and their stats. I could never be like that but it's fun to talk to fantasy players or ask them questions.
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Basketball seems like it would be a great cross training activity for cyclists. good for bone density and ligament strength etc. TBH if I had a court nearby and someone to play with, I'd easily ditch my weekly jogs for a game or two of 21. Doesn't BillyD play b-ball?

Sometimes when I jog, I throw in spurts of backward running, and those "side shuffle" things (whatev they're called), especially if I'm getting ready for an off-season Sierra backpacking/mountaineering trip which I do most years. Basketball seems like it would accomplish the same sort of ankle support type stuff.
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also why no basketball in this thread??? I used to play in middle school and HS and enjoy watching it as much as the other two big American sports. LesterOfPuppets Velo Vol.
The season just started.

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i don’t think you’re all that far off - but i think it’s more general than that. universities and their fan bases / alumnus in bigger, denser metro areas are just much less intense in their sports interests. think of columbia, harvard, mit, northwestern, even berkeley or stanford. yes, they have fans, but it’s nothing like football in the midwest. usc and ucla may be exceptions, but even so the average angeleno doesn’t give a ****, whereas the average person from any medium sized midwestern town with a big division 1 football program probably is rabid by comparison and also follows whatever nfl team is within 500 miles!
I think you're onto something here, and that there is a relationship between the urban demographic and sportsball interest. Moreover, non-Californians seem to mostly consider coastal, urban Californians in our archetype. To be fair, this is where we have the most population,: San Diego, OC, LA, Bay Area. The cultural and physical geography is very different elsewhere in the large state.

Side note: Not sure if you are a bay area native, but my dad is a Stanford alum and from San Jose. I grew up as a Niners fan for this reason, much to the chagrin of my friends who rooted for the Chargers. I still have fam., in San Jose, SF and Berkeley/Oakland.
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Originally Posted by Velo Vol
The season just started.

See post #4745
shows what I know lol. I have some idea of when football is, but the others, all I know is if someone else has it on TV or not
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Originally Posted by rjones28
I went to a Big 5 school for college.
Which one?
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Originally Posted by Bah Humbug
Could use some more info like budget, type, and size she'd like.
$300 max, 8 inch, not sure what you mean by type, but just a typical chef’s knife
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This caught my eye

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Originally Posted by Velo Vol
Which one?
LaSalle.

Benson on campus a few years ago, about this time of year.

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$300 max, 8 inch, not sure what you mean by type, but just a typical chef’s knife
Mrs. rjones28 chose one of these. 8-Inch Chef Knife | G-Fusion | New West KnifeWorks

She wanted something lighter than her German knife. Unless you live out west, they're mail order. I remember they had a good trial period. The balance is weighted with the handle heavier than the blade which is not for everyone.
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Originally Posted by mschwett
i don’t think you’re all that far off - but i think it’s more general than that. universities and their fan bases / alumnus in bigger, denser metro areas are just much less intense in their sports interests. think of columbia, harvard, mit, northwestern, even berkeley or stanford. yes, they have fans, but it’s nothing like football in the midwest. usc and ucla may be exceptions, but even so the average angeleno doesn’t give a ****, whereas the average person from any medium sized midwestern town with a big division 1 football program probably is rabid by comparison and also follows whatever nfl team is within 500 miles!
This

The southern and midwestern land grant public research universities have a huge alumni base and little to no competition in professional sports. It’s part of the reason they’ve traditionally been successful. More money for coaches, facilities etc and now with NIL- more money to pay athletes. Personally I think there should be some semblance of a “salary cap” for collegiate sports. Should a college QB be making 1 million plus a year? Should a team have 20-30M going to NIL from donors?
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LaSalle.

Benson on campus a few years ago, about this time of year.


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