The roadside cw does but the offroad / independent cw doesn't. The shoulder would probably be better, ie quicker, for distance travelling albeit a tad more dangerous. As for wildlife, I doubt you'd encounter anything significant on the offroad.
Mate I've just realised I've probably confused you using the term 'offroad'. By 'offroad I mean 'not on shoulder' as opposed to actual dirt track. The independent offroad is well surfaced with bitumen and fully fenced. The onroad shoulder cw does continue from the M4 to the M7.

As for safety I think that Monavale Rd / Forest Way would probably be the best with better shoulders and less traffic.
I hope this all makes some sense :o

Mate, check it for an elastic band! Maybe you got substituted for the neute job. They use e/bands on sheep when they've run out of house bricks. :D Or did they use the house brick********** :eek:

As I understand it (with my mega history of cycle racing stuff), lactic acid is a wonderful source of energy but not easily accessable. Seems like I read somewhere you gotta be in dire straights before the body starts to convert it........ or something like that.

I'm there! $90 for season ticket, too cheap. :)

Your mate is a whippet. If his leg snapped it's so skinny he'd loose it up his kyber. :D

I vaguely know 'Hollywood '. The old man knows him fairly well, raced him in the 'aces' for a season or two in the mid to late '80's. He's a crack you up laughing sort of bloke. I'm not entirely sure he means to though... ;)

Jock - it's the World Cup, not the World Champs. (which we had last year :p ). Mind you, damned if I'm paying the prices they are asking to go and see the Commonwealth Games.

Sorry about that. Sounds like it'll be a dud show then :D

Oh yeah....the old Time Equipe. Forgot about that....


I liked Maasen and Solleveld. Friggen tough.

Commonwealth Games is barely above national champs. Wouldn't cross the road to watch it.....and I live in Melbourne.

I think it's the forced hype and faux excitement about it that has turned me bitter....plus Bracksy hiding how much it costs etc etc

Thanks for that berny. By wildlife, I mean fo the two legged variety. Around here, if you want to get rolled you ride on the cycle tracks. Actually they shouldn't call them cycletracks around here. About the only wheels that hit them are the bogans or their 14 year old girlfriends pushing their strollers.

But yeah, at that stage of my ride, quicker'd be the go. And the less little hillocks the better as well.


House brick???? :eek:

haven't you heard the two brick camel joke before saccy? :roflmao:

I thought you may have meant huming wildlife.

Yes they use two housebricks to neuter sheep in NZ. One of the locals hearing it asked; "but doesn't it bloody hurt".
Guy doing it says, "na mate, only if you get your thumb between the bricks! :lol:

Lactic acid is indeed an energy source: "The lactic acid system is capable of releasing energy to resynthesise ATP without the involvement of oxygen and is called anaerobic glycolysis.". But it doesn't cause the burn. That is caused by excess hydrogen ions (produced during the breakdown of carbs within the cells) creating an acidic environment that irritates open nerve endings within the muscle mass. Ain't cellular biology excitin'!

And no, you don't have to be in dire straights to use lactic acid. Production & removal of lactic acid continues at rates of 300-500% of resting rates while oxygen consumption has stabilised at submaximal levels to satisfy the additional energy requirements of heart, lungs, and working muscles.

http://www.cytosport.com/science/lacticacid.html
http://www.brianmac.demon.co.uk/lactic.htm

Umm, nope. I've lead a sheltered existence. ;)


lol. :lol:

Poor sheepies. :(

You're just cheesed off because Brisbane stole your brilliant "Matilda, the giant winking marsupial" mascot idea all those years ago. And I bet you blokes can't even organise Norman May to sing his own National Anthem "Gold, Gold, Gold" in Melbourne next year!

The camel joke is a variant on Berny's sheep version. Same use of bricks for a different reason, but same punch line. In the camel joke the bricks are to encourage the camels to suck up more water. :eek:

One of our local sports reporters was telling a story on brekkie telly yesterday about being at a Commonwealth Games (can't remember which one) where Rolf Harris of all people turned up as a cycling commentator. He apparently led a sing song in the hotel bar one night including a rendition of "Jake the Peg".

ugh, woke up this morning and the back is worse than it was yesterday :( worse still is that theres a short track smashfest, i mean race tonight :cry: :fight: . decisions decsisons. do i do the race anyways and suffer the consequences, or just take it easy and miss out :(

The answer to your question should be easy Grasshopper. Just ask yourself what is more important: to be in and amongst it for one short night, or in an amongst it for many nights to come. Seek the truth within, then stay at home and sort out your positional problems.

yer i know :( ah well, lifes like that! have booked the road bike in for a position change at LBS tomorrow so hopefully that will sort it out for me! thank you oh wise kung fu master :: bows ::

while im at it , does anyone know any links to osme lower back exercises so i can strengthen it up? seems to be a big weak point for me.

also jock, he who is wise not only of sensible thought, but also the wickd science of sports nutrition, was looking at my endura this morning and wondered, whats the absorbtion time of somthing like that? how long till all those sodium potassium and magnesium elements begin to take effect?

See a good physio or osteopath. Back problems can be caused by minor aggravation of long periods of time, an unbalanced pedal action, lack of core strength, etc, etc, etc. So go get sussed out by the healing hands.

Days. As in you should be loading up with water, carbs, and an appropriate amount of salts in the days leading up to an event especially if its a long distance thang.

On the day I prefer to just do things normally. ie. eat a decent breakfast, keep topped up with fluids (water, juice, sport drink, whatever turns you on at the time), and snack properly (eg. fruit, sambos, regular stuff). Try to save the sugary stuff for later in the race, otherwise your palate will be totally turned off the taste or worse you may hit a sugar low (is that an insulin overload?) which can really knock you about. I've done that twice and its not pretty.

Get a job stacking timber at a lumber mill. Totally fixed mine.

There's a back excercise that porn stars and basketball players do, it's very effective.

Hence why I will be watching tonight :(