Go Back  Bike Forums > Bike Forums > Road Cycling
Reload this Page >

Affliction

Search
Notices
Road Cycling “It is by riding a bicycle that you learn the contours of a country best, since you have to sweat up the hills and coast down them. Thus you remember them as they actually are, while in a motor car only a high hill impresses you, and you have no such accurate remembrance of country you have driven through as you gain by riding a bicycle.” -- Ernest Hemingway

Affliction

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 05-30-26 | 05:27 PM
  #3901  
big john's Avatar
Senior Member
20 Anniversary
Community Builder
Community Influencer
Active Streak: 30 Days
 
Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 29,481
Likes: 13,492
From: In the foothills of Los Angeles County
Originally Posted by Mojo31
The kicker is, what is a median priced home?
Where I live, the San Fernando Valley, the median home price for a house is $1.1m and for a townhouse, $850k.
big john is online now  
Reply
Old 05-30-26 | 05:29 PM
  #3902  
big john's Avatar
Senior Member
20 Anniversary
Community Builder
Community Influencer
Active Streak: 30 Days
 
Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 29,481
Likes: 13,492
From: In the foothills of Los Angeles County
Originally Posted by terrymorse
My sister and husband moved to a coastal town in Oregon. They ended up hating it there, saying it was a "cultural desert", and they eventually moved to Napa.

There is a $500,000 capital gains exemption for a couple selling their primary residence, but for us that would cover only a small fraction of our home's gain.
But you're okay staying put, no?
big john is online now  
Reply
Old 05-30-26 | 05:56 PM
  #3903  
New here
5 Anniversary
Community Builder
Community Influencer
Active Streak: 30 Days
 
Joined: Jul 2020
Posts: 15,552
Likes: 8,603
From: Tejas
Originally Posted by big john
Where I live, the San Fernando Valley, the median home price for a house is $1.1m and for a townhouse, $850k.
For Sonoma, what would you get for $850k? Probably not near what my same priced house gets me here.
Mojo31 is offline  
Reply
Old 05-30-26 | 06:01 PM
  #3904  
genejockey's Avatar
Klaatu..Verata..Necktie?
Titanium Club Membership
15 Anniversary
Community Builder
Community Influencer
 
Joined: May 2007
Posts: 23,811
Likes: 17,244
From: SF Bay Area

Bikes: Litespeed Ultimate, Ultegra; Canyon Endurace, 105; Battaglin MAX, Chorus; Bianchi 928 Veloce; Ritchey Road Logic, Dura Ace; Cannondale R500 RX100; Schwinn Circuit, Sante; Lotus Supreme, Dura Ace

Originally Posted by datlas
So is current plan to stay there indefinitely? Can you drop in an ADU for side income??
Plan?



No, the current plan, such as it is, is to stay here another year or so, and visit our two top spots, and see if we could stand living there. Meanwhile, we'll do a few updates/upgrades to make the house more saleable.

But if we had another half million we'd stay here.
__________________
"Don't take life so serious-it ain't nohow permanent."

"Everybody's gotta be somewhere." - Eccles
genejockey is offline  
Reply
Old 05-30-26 | 06:30 PM
  #3905  
indyfabz's Avatar
Senior Member
15 Anniversary
Community Builder
Community Influencer
Active Streak: 30 Days
 
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 45,428
Likes: 23,589
Originally Posted by big john
Touring through Kentucky we had a short day planned. I wore a tee shirt instead of a jersey in spite of the humidity. At the end of the ride it was like I was in a wet tee shirt contest. Had a hard time getting that shirt off.
Went to my friends' house in Arkansas and they had been having torrential rains. It was 95 degrees with 95% humidity. Steam room, like you said. It was awful. We drove to the store in his car with the a/c on and it was nice. It rained so hard we could hardly see the road even with wipers on high. Rain stopped and when I got out of the car it was steam room again.
Tell me about it. We had high heat and humidity nearly every day from south of the Twin Cities all the way through IN. The high in Huntington, IN was 106. I got a room. The city asked businesses to close early to take the strain off the power grid. That was the one day I seriously considered quitting.
indyfabz is online now  
Reply
Old 05-30-26 | 06:36 PM
  #3906  
terrymorse's Avatar
climber has-been
Titanium Club Membership
20 Anniversary
Community Builder
Community Influencer
 
Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 9,180
Likes: 6,069
From: Palo Alto, CA

Bikes: Scott Addict RC Pro & R1, Felt Z1

Originally Posted by big john
But you're okay staying put, no?
Yes, we like it here. But at some point in the future, as age does its thing, we'll want to move.

The guvmint used to allow you to transfer your equity to another home without a tax hit, which was great. As it stands now for us, moving anywhere means a 7-figure tax bill.
__________________
Ride, Rest, Repeat. ROUVY: terrymorse


terrymorse is offline  
Reply
Old 05-30-26 | 06:43 PM
  #3907  
datlas's Avatar
Should Be More Popular
Titanium Club Membership
15 Anniversary
Community Builder
Community Influencer
 
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 46,297
Likes: 11,812
From: Malvern, PA (20 miles West of Philly)

Bikes: 1986 Alpine (steel road bike), 2009 Ti Habenero, 2013 Specialized Roubaix

Originally Posted by big john
Where I live, the San Fernando Valley, the median home price for a house is $1.1m and for a townhouse, $850k.
Sadly, in my township, the prices are not much better. We bought our house 25 years ago. There is NFW we could afford to buy it now.
__________________
Originally Posted by rjones28
Addiction is all about class.
datlas is offline  
Reply
Old 05-30-26 | 07:07 PM
  #3908  
genejockey's Avatar
Klaatu..Verata..Necktie?
Titanium Club Membership
15 Anniversary
Community Builder
Community Influencer
 
Joined: May 2007
Posts: 23,811
Likes: 17,244
From: SF Bay Area

Bikes: Litespeed Ultimate, Ultegra; Canyon Endurace, 105; Battaglin MAX, Chorus; Bianchi 928 Veloce; Ritchey Road Logic, Dura Ace; Cannondale R500 RX100; Schwinn Circuit, Sante; Lotus Supreme, Dura Ace

Originally Posted by terrymorse
Yes, we like it here. But at some point in the future, as age does its thing, we'll want to move.

The guvmint used to allow you to transfer your equity to another home without a tax hit, which was great. As it stands now for us, moving anywhere means a 7-figure tax bill.
This is why so many Olds get sucked in by Reverse Mortgages. After all, Tom Selleck wouldn't mislead you, would he?
__________________
"Don't take life so serious-it ain't nohow permanent."

"Everybody's gotta be somewhere." - Eccles
genejockey is offline  
Reply
Old 05-30-26 | 07:17 PM
  #3909  
genejockey's Avatar
Klaatu..Verata..Necktie?
Titanium Club Membership
15 Anniversary
Community Builder
Community Influencer
 
Joined: May 2007
Posts: 23,811
Likes: 17,244
From: SF Bay Area

Bikes: Litespeed Ultimate, Ultegra; Canyon Endurace, 105; Battaglin MAX, Chorus; Bianchi 928 Veloce; Ritchey Road Logic, Dura Ace; Cannondale R500 RX100; Schwinn Circuit, Sante; Lotus Supreme, Dura Ace

I was looking at the state of the housing market in San Mateo on Redfin, and this caught my eye:



Apparently not everyone in Knoxville thinks our weather is "gross".

__________________
"Don't take life so serious-it ain't nohow permanent."

"Everybody's gotta be somewhere." - Eccles
genejockey is offline  
Reply
Old 05-30-26 | 07:39 PM
  #3910  
genejockey's Avatar
Klaatu..Verata..Necktie?
Titanium Club Membership
15 Anniversary
Community Builder
Community Influencer
 
Joined: May 2007
Posts: 23,811
Likes: 17,244
From: SF Bay Area

Bikes: Litespeed Ultimate, Ultegra; Canyon Endurace, 105; Battaglin MAX, Chorus; Bianchi 928 Veloce; Ritchey Road Logic, Dura Ace; Cannondale R500 RX100; Schwinn Circuit, Sante; Lotus Supreme, Dura Ace

Originally Posted by Mojo31
For Sonoma, what would you get for $850k? Probably not near what my same priced house gets me here.
Maybe not, but you don't have to run the AC 24/7/365. So, there's that.
__________________
"Don't take life so serious-it ain't nohow permanent."

"Everybody's gotta be somewhere." - Eccles
genejockey is offline  
Reply
Old 05-30-26 | 07:40 PM
  #3911  
LesterOfPuppets's Avatar
The space coyote lied.
15 Anniversary
Community Builder
Community Influencer
 
Joined: Sep 2008
Posts: 48,866
Likes: 11,056
From: dusk 'til dawn.

Bikes: everywhere

Originally Posted by genejockey
Maybe not, but you don't have to run the AC 24/7/365. So, there's that.
As an outdoors enthusiast, good weather is worth its weight in gold, maybe x10.
LesterOfPuppets is offline  
Reply
Old 05-30-26 | 07:46 PM
  #3912  
genejockey's Avatar
Klaatu..Verata..Necktie?
Titanium Club Membership
15 Anniversary
Community Builder
Community Influencer
 
Joined: May 2007
Posts: 23,811
Likes: 17,244
From: SF Bay Area

Bikes: Litespeed Ultimate, Ultegra; Canyon Endurace, 105; Battaglin MAX, Chorus; Bianchi 928 Veloce; Ritchey Road Logic, Dura Ace; Cannondale R500 RX100; Schwinn Circuit, Sante; Lotus Supreme, Dura Ace

Originally Posted by LesterOfPuppets
As an outdoors enthusiast, good weather is worth its weight in gold, maybe x10.
Dern tootin'! I won't have to worry about rain till November, though I guess I will have to worry about smoke. After 44 years here, I'm so used to never having to think about rain that moving to where it might rain any day will be jarring.
__________________
"Don't take life so serious-it ain't nohow permanent."

"Everybody's gotta be somewhere." - Eccles
genejockey is offline  
Reply
Old 05-30-26 | 08:54 PM
  #3913  
big john's Avatar
Senior Member
20 Anniversary
Community Builder
Community Influencer
Active Streak: 30 Days
 
Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 29,481
Likes: 13,492
From: In the foothills of Los Angeles County
Originally Posted by Mojo31
For Sonoma, what would you get for $850k? Probably not near what my same priced house gets me here.
Don't know about Sonoma. It's moot, as far as I'm concerned.
big john is online now  
Reply
Old 05-30-26 | 08:56 PM
  #3914  
LesterOfPuppets's Avatar
The space coyote lied.
15 Anniversary
Community Builder
Community Influencer
 
Joined: Sep 2008
Posts: 48,866
Likes: 11,056
From: dusk 'til dawn.

Bikes: everywhere

NSD! Got a 6-pack of team Mexico soccer fan socks, now I can be properly outfitted for riding the Schwinn!


LesterOfPuppets is offline  
Reply
Old 05-30-26 | 10:13 PM
  #3915  
Senior Member
Titanium Club Membership
5 Anniversary
Community Builder
 
Joined: May 2021
Posts: 3,176
Likes: 2,381
From: San Francisco

Bikes: addict, aethos, creo, vanmoof, sirrus, public ...

Originally Posted by Mojo31
For Sonoma, what would you get for $850k? Probably not near what my same priced house gets me here.
presumably not that much, but whatever it is, it’s what lots of people live in. I’ve always wondered about this - what is the true quality of life benefit of a larger home, once you get past a certain point? a bedroom for every child, one for guests, maybe a home office or hobby room, how much space do two people really need? ans does it actually make people happier to have more space? my observation of family members as they got wealthy, aged, retired, moved, moved again, was that a lot of stressors and frustrations came along with big homes (single family or otherwise) and that past around 500 sf/person for a family with children and 750 sf/person for an adult couple, there is really zero benefit.

outdoor space is probably a different equation, but oddly people are going the other way, putting bigger houses on smaller or same size lots, leaving yards which are barely useful.

I’m certainly biased because we like spending a lot of time in the public realm - parks, libraries, shops, restaurants, streets, etc but the three of us lived so happily in 1,000sf for so long that when we moved (a bit after there became four of us) that it was strange and almost pointless to have more space to fill. my choice would be a relatively small place, but carefully designed, everything custom, real stone and wood everywhere, tons of windows and light and views in an amazing walkable neighborhood or a pristine beach, forest, etc. so, certainly not cheap and not “median” but those kinds of places are expensive everywhere. what people get when they downgrade to a cheaper metro is often just more space.
mschwett is offline  
Reply
Old 05-30-26 | 10:19 PM
  #3916  
LesterOfPuppets's Avatar
The space coyote lied.
15 Anniversary
Community Builder
Community Influencer
 
Joined: Sep 2008
Posts: 48,866
Likes: 11,056
From: dusk 'til dawn.

Bikes: everywhere

I just need about 300sf of house space and about 1000sf garage would probably do it.
LesterOfPuppets is offline  
Reply
Old 05-30-26 | 10:44 PM
  #3917  
Velo Vol's Avatar
VFL For Life
Titanium Club Membership
20 Anniversary
Community Builder
Active Streak: 30 Days
 
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 54,099
Likes: 2,422
From: Knoxville, TN

Bikes: Velo Volmobile

Originally Posted by rjones28
How did you lose the tooth?
They cracked.

Originally Posted by LesterOfPuppets
I try to keep a maintain a vivid memory of this one day in July in Rocky Mount, NC.
My vivid memories are of being freezing cold.
Originally Posted by genejockey
I was looking at the state of the housing market in San Mateo on Redfin, and this caught my eye:



Apparently not everyone in Knoxville thinks our weather is "gross".
You'd have to ask them, but I'd wager only a small percentage of people would make that move (in either direction) primarily due to climate. The economic/political/cultural differences are much greater.
__________________
Originally Posted by Velo Vol
People here don't get it.
Velo Vol is online now  
Reply
Old 05-31-26 | 05:27 AM
  #3918  
Trsnrtr's Avatar
Super Modest
20 Anniversary
Community Builder
Community Influencer
 
Joined: Jun 2002
Posts: 25,397
Likes: 6,668
From: Central Illinois

Bikes: Trek Domane+x2, Trek Emonda

Originally Posted by big john
Where I live, the San Fernando Valley, the median home price for a house is $1.1m and for a townhouse, $850k.
Median home price where I live is $143,000 and comes with all of the corn, beans, wheat and pumpkins that you want to stare at.
__________________
“Train hard until your legs are tanned, then keep going until the shape arrives.” -Jolanda Neff



Trsnrtr is offline  
Reply
Old 05-31-26 | 05:31 AM
  #3919  
Trsnrtr's Avatar
Super Modest
20 Anniversary
Community Builder
Community Influencer
 
Joined: Jun 2002
Posts: 25,397
Likes: 6,668
From: Central Illinois

Bikes: Trek Domane+x2, Trek Emonda

Originally Posted by LesterOfPuppets
I just need about 300sf of house space and about 1000sf garage would probably do it.
I’ve told my wife that, heaven forbid, my goal for living would be similar. Room for a twin bed, recliner, tv, microwave, etc. and a garage to do whatever the Hell I wanted.
__________________
“Train hard until your legs are tanned, then keep going until the shape arrives.” -Jolanda Neff



Trsnrtr is offline  
Reply
Old 05-31-26 | 05:33 AM
  #3920  
Trsnrtr's Avatar
Super Modest
20 Anniversary
Community Builder
Community Influencer
 
Joined: Jun 2002
Posts: 25,397
Likes: 6,668
From: Central Illinois

Bikes: Trek Domane+x2, Trek Emonda

Originally Posted by Velo Vol
You'd have to ask them, but I'd wager only a small percentage of people would make that move (in either direction) primarily due to climate. The economic/political/cultural differences are much greater.
Outside of the city, you live in a beautiful area, IMHO. Humidity aside, and I’ve got that here, it’s gorgeous.
__________________
“Train hard until your legs are tanned, then keep going until the shape arrives.” -Jolanda Neff



Trsnrtr is offline  
Reply
Old 05-31-26 | 06:13 AM
  #3921  
New here
5 Anniversary
Community Builder
Community Influencer
Active Streak: 30 Days
 
Joined: Jul 2020
Posts: 15,552
Likes: 8,603
From: Tejas
Originally Posted by Trsnrtr
I’ve told my wife that, heaven forbid, my goal for living would be similar. Room for a twin bed, recliner, tv, microwave, etc. and a garage to do whatever the Hell I wanted.
I've told mine i could go for a 2k' house if it had a 6-car garage.
Mojo31 is offline  
Reply
Old 05-31-26 | 07:04 AM
  #3922  
New here
5 Anniversary
Community Builder
Community Influencer
Active Streak: 30 Days
 
Joined: Jul 2020
Posts: 15,552
Likes: 8,603
From: Tejas
Originally Posted by mschwett
presumably not that much, but whatever it is, it’s what lots of people live in. I’ve always wondered about this - what is the true quality of life benefit of a larger home, once you get past a certain point? a bedroom for every child, one for guests, maybe a home office or hobby room, how much space do two people really need? ans does it actually make people happier to have more space? my observation of family members as they got wealthy, aged, retired, moved, moved again, was that a lot of stressors and frustrations came along with big homes (single family or otherwise) and that past around 500 sf/person for a family with children and 750 sf/person for an adult couple, there is really zero benefit.

outdoor space is probably a different equation, but oddly people are going the other way, putting bigger houses on smaller or same size lots, leaving yards which are barely useful.

I’m certainly biased because we like spending a lot of time in the public realm - parks, libraries, shops, restaurants, streets, etc but the three of us lived so happily in 1,000sf for so long that when we moved (a bit after there became four of us) that it was strange and almost pointless to have more space to fill. my choice would be a relatively small place, but carefully designed, everything custom, real stone and wood everywhere, tons of windows and light and views in an amazing walkable neighborhood or a pristine beach, forest, etc. so, certainly not cheap and not “median” but those kinds of places are expensive everywhere. what people get when they downgrade to a cheaper metro is often just more space.
For me the benefit is having room for friends and family. We've had as many as 60 people in our house for parties and celebrations. Holiday dinners are usually ten to twenty people.

Our house has lots of windows, a decent size lot, some privacy, quiet streets, and our main living area extends to our back patio and pool, and the house is a custom build with lots of design features for its price. Believe it or not, we use the space regularly.

We could go down in size, but don't want to. It doesn't present any stressor to us. It doesn't bother us that we don't live with open windows.
Mojo31 is offline  
Reply
Old 05-31-26 | 07:20 AM
  #3923  
indyfabz's Avatar
Senior Member
15 Anniversary
Community Builder
Community Influencer
Active Streak: 30 Days
 
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 45,428
Likes: 23,589
Originally Posted by genejockey
Yeesh. We have our windows open A LOT. Some months it's most days, and even if it's 100 out during the day - it'll be at least in the low 60s overnight, if not the high 50s.
We had low-50s in the city this morning. A location in the Pine Barrens in NJ got down to 38. It's often shown on the news because it often is the coolest place around.
indyfabz is online now  
Reply
Old 05-31-26 | 07:26 AM
  #3924  
indyfabz's Avatar
Senior Member
15 Anniversary
Community Builder
Community Influencer
Active Streak: 30 Days
 
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 45,428
Likes: 23,589
Originally Posted by LesterOfPuppets
I just need about 300sf of house space and about 1000sf garage would probably do it.
I could live here, at least in the spring-fall.

https://www.realtor.com/realestatean...?from=srp_next
indyfabz is online now  
Reply
Old 05-31-26 | 07:48 AM
  #3925  
big john's Avatar
Senior Member
20 Anniversary
Community Builder
Community Influencer
Active Streak: 30 Days
 
Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 29,481
Likes: 13,492
From: In the foothills of Los Angeles County
Originally Posted by LesterOfPuppets
NSD! Got a 6-pack of team Mexico soccer fan socks, now I can be properly outfitted for riding the Schwinn!

Looks like Bio-pace sticker on the big ring.
big john is online now  
Reply


Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service -

Copyright © 2026 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.