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#476
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Most fun I ever had in a car was driving my mid-80's Toyota MR2. It was 30 years old, had 300,000 miles, had 112hp (when new), weighed 2,000 pounds, rear wheel drive all made for a gallon of fun in a pint sized car. I could have the most exciting back road drive and barely break the speed limit. That engine revved to the moon too, I recall the rev limiter kicking in near 8,000 rpm.
I drove a Corolla FX-16 GTS a couple of times, also super fun!
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Another scorcher here in the big city...

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#479
”Large pork with sharp and greens” is all you have to say.
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It is the superior food but you don't even have to go as far south as So Cal to get a top quality burrito (though I don't doubt they're fantastic). There's a little hole in the wall taqueria one block from my house which makes some of the best burritos in town, which is saying something because there's a LOT of taquerias and taco trucks in town, most of them good.
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#482
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who actually wants to live to 100 anyway? I have two case studies
My MIL - it's a goal of hers to reach 100. At 80 she is very healthy and active, hustling my 2.5 toddler up three flights of stairs in our townhome at naptime like its NBD. Amazing. She won't even let me help if she arrives asleep in the stroller.
My mom - talks ad naseum (somewhat morbidly) about how she doesn't need to live into her old age, and how she wants someone to pull the plug rather than have her be "hooked up" for the rest of her life and/or on life support.
For me? IDK but I feel like the apple didn't fall too far from the tree. Age and QOL are correlated and not the same thing. I want to live as long as I can retain some degree of mobility and mental faculty. In my mind - those are gonna go before one reaches 100, unless you're real lucky.
My MIL - it's a goal of hers to reach 100. At 80 she is very healthy and active, hustling my 2.5 toddler up three flights of stairs in our townhome at naptime like its NBD. Amazing. She won't even let me help if she arrives asleep in the stroller.
My mom - talks ad naseum (somewhat morbidly) about how she doesn't need to live into her old age, and how she wants someone to pull the plug rather than have her be "hooked up" for the rest of her life and/or on life support.
For me? IDK but I feel like the apple didn't fall too far from the tree. Age and QOL are correlated and not the same thing. I want to live as long as I can retain some degree of mobility and mental faculty. In my mind - those are gonna go before one reaches 100, unless you're real lucky.
Like most things in life, the approach depends on the details. When it comes to aging, the focus should be on quality of life. I have a patient who turned 101 and she is doing ok and quite sharp and has a good quality of life. That's great, but quite unusual. Most folks are dealing with advanced degenerative disease of one or more systems by the time they are in their 90's, so their quality of life is not so great and many of them are "ready" for the end. It's not much fun to talk about, but we are all mortal.
I do suggest reading book "Being Mortal" but Atul Gawande. Should be mandatory reading IMO.
I do suggest reading book "Being Mortal" but Atul Gawande. Should be mandatory reading IMO.
That, or to be riding my bike and have an quick and painless EOL via Peterbilt.
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Another day of significantly warmer than normal today, but at least it was a good 5-6 degrees cooler than last week! I got a PR for the particular route I rode, which years ago was kind of a go-to route for me for riding in the morning before work. 26 miles of plain out-and-back. Mid day turns out to be better than early morning, as far as traffic goes. Not battling SUVs dropping kids off at the 5 or 6 schools I pass in the first 2 miles on the Alameda de las Pulgas before reaching Crystal Springs, and also fewer commuters taking Crystal Springs to avoid 92.
As I was climbing after the dam, some guy passed me and left me for dead, doing most of a half-mile, 6% climb out of the saddle. But I caught him again at the traffic light. I had thought he must be a young guy, but no, he had gray hair curling out from under his helmet. He was, in fact, one of those skinny Old Guys, the ones that pass you when you're feeling great about how well you're doing, especially for your age, and then some Old Guy passes you like you're standing still and disappears into the distance - which he did from the traffic light, even though he bobbled clipping in.
Then another guy passed me and was in the process of dropping me, but I caught him after a mile or so. 5 miles later, he passed me just before about a half mile, 2% hill. I droped a small hamer, and almost caught up to him, but then the wind, which had been a roughly 5-10 mph tailwind totally flipped and became a 5-10 mph HEADwind, within less than 100 yards. It was WEIRD. Anyhow, that was my turnaround point anyway. So I turned and headed back North - into the headwind. I spent some time in the drops and in as close to Aero Hoods as I can get, and it wasn't so bad. The rest of the ride was unremarkable, but when I got home, and looked on Strava, I'd set a new PR for the route, by almost 1:20 over 26 miles. Not bad for an Old Guy.
As I was climbing after the dam, some guy passed me and left me for dead, doing most of a half-mile, 6% climb out of the saddle. But I caught him again at the traffic light. I had thought he must be a young guy, but no, he had gray hair curling out from under his helmet. He was, in fact, one of those skinny Old Guys, the ones that pass you when you're feeling great about how well you're doing, especially for your age, and then some Old Guy passes you like you're standing still and disappears into the distance - which he did from the traffic light, even though he bobbled clipping in.
Then another guy passed me and was in the process of dropping me, but I caught him after a mile or so. 5 miles later, he passed me just before about a half mile, 2% hill. I droped a small hamer, and almost caught up to him, but then the wind, which had been a roughly 5-10 mph tailwind totally flipped and became a 5-10 mph HEADwind, within less than 100 yards. It was WEIRD. Anyhow, that was my turnaround point anyway. So I turned and headed back North - into the headwind. I spent some time in the drops and in as close to Aero Hoods as I can get, and it wasn't so bad. The rest of the ride was unremarkable, but when I got home, and looked on Strava, I'd set a new PR for the route, by almost 1:20 over 26 miles. Not bad for an Old Guy.
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#487
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Another day of significantly warmer than normal today, but at least it was a good 5-6 degrees cooler than last week! I got a PR for the particular route I rode, which years ago was kind of a go-to route for me for riding in the morning before work. 26 miles of plain out-and-back. Mid day turns out to be better than early morning, as far as traffic goes. Not battling SUVs dropping kids off at the 5 or 6 schools I pass in the first 2 miles on the Alameda de las Pulgas before reaching Crystal Springs, and also fewer commuters taking Crystal Springs to avoid 92.
As I was climbing after the dam, some guy passed me and left me for dead, doing most of a half-mile, 6% climb out of the saddle. But I caught him again at the traffic light. I had thought he must be a young guy, but no, he had gray hair curling out from under his helmet. He was, in fact, one of those skinny Old Guys, the ones that pass you when you're feeling great about how well you're doing, especially for your age, and then some Old Guy passes you like you're standing still and disappears into the distance - which he did from the traffic light, even though he bobbled clipping in.
Then another guy passed me and was in the process of dropping me, but I caught him after a mile or so. 5 miles later, he passed me just before about a half mile, 2% hill. I droped a small hamer, and almost caught up to him, but then the wind, which had been a roughly 5-10 mph tailwind totally flipped and became a 5-10 mph HEADwind, within less than 100 yards. It was WEIRD. Anyhow, that was my turnaround point anyway. So I turned and headed back North - into the headwind. I spent some time in the drops and in as close to Aero Hoods as I can get, and it wasn't so bad. The rest of the ride was unremarkable, but when I got home, and looked on Strava, I'd set a new PR for the route, by almost 1:20 over 26 miles. Not bad for an Old Guy.
As I was climbing after the dam, some guy passed me and left me for dead, doing most of a half-mile, 6% climb out of the saddle. But I caught him again at the traffic light. I had thought he must be a young guy, but no, he had gray hair curling out from under his helmet. He was, in fact, one of those skinny Old Guys, the ones that pass you when you're feeling great about how well you're doing, especially for your age, and then some Old Guy passes you like you're standing still and disappears into the distance - which he did from the traffic light, even though he bobbled clipping in.
Then another guy passed me and was in the process of dropping me, but I caught him after a mile or so. 5 miles later, he passed me just before about a half mile, 2% hill. I droped a small hamer, and almost caught up to him, but then the wind, which had been a roughly 5-10 mph tailwind totally flipped and became a 5-10 mph HEADwind, within less than 100 yards. It was WEIRD. Anyhow, that was my turnaround point anyway. So I turned and headed back North - into the headwind. I spent some time in the drops and in as close to Aero Hoods as I can get, and it wasn't so bad. The rest of the ride was unremarkable, but when I got home, and looked on Strava, I'd set a new PR for the route, by almost 1:20 over 26 miles. Not bad for an Old Guy.
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As far as aging to 100, seeing the condition of my parents mentally and physically (with a portent of my genetic destiny) I think I will pass. Dad is going strong physically at 95 but his short term memory is completely shot. It’s not unusual to hear the same sentence three times in 20 minutes. Mom at 94 had terrible health and became paranoid about conspiracies against her by everyone. Also believing that people were stealing was constant. I offered to buy her a complete set of silverware several times because the spoons were being stolen by caregivers. Yeesh. I only hope I have the presence of mind to know when it time to check myself out.
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#488
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Where are you, these days? I don't know if I posted about it on a previous drop-in, but the fam and I did a 4k mile road trip out your way in the summer, hitting up some National Parks and whatnot. In your neck of the woods, we stayed in Williams and took the train out to the Grand Canyon. It was a great time.

If I can find a deal on a place in Williams I might retire there. Ramona and I spent many a weekend there escaping from the Valley heat.
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It's a great book on aging and how we deal with it. Some are stories about people, some are about how cultures handle aging, some are stories about living with life challenges and how to handle themas they relate to EOL. Not a long book, but packed with lots to think about. @datlas can explain it better, I'm sure, as it's been a couple years since I last read it. I need to read it again.
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You guys think you have medical problems, "I pee eight times a night, six in the toilet." - Undercover Grandpa on Netflix
Reporting myself.
Reporting myself.
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I've ridden a bike along pieces of this on the Springfield Century. Check this out:
https://www.enjoyillinois.com/explor...al-brick-road/

https://www.enjoyillinois.com/explor...al-brick-road/

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Flagstaff, Arizona, about a half hour drive from Williams. That sounds like a killer road trip, well the summer part might have been a little rough in some locations. 
If I can find a deal on a place in Williams I might retire there. Ramona and I spent many a weekend there escaping from the Valley heat.

If I can find a deal on a place in Williams I might retire there. Ramona and I spent many a weekend there escaping from the Valley heat.
Yeah, it was an awesome trip - we saw a lot but missed a lot, too, so we'll have to get back sometime. Basically drove two days to Denver, and then did a loop from CO, through UT, pit stop in NV to recharge and have some Jollibee, AZ, NM and then back to CO.
All of the charging for our EV was free, too, which was sweet. We're planning on heading the opposite direction, to Maine, this summer, while we still have the free charging.
Here's a pic from Arches -

#494
Having been pretty much bedridden for over 2 months, I know I don’t ever want to spend the remainder of my life waiting to die in that state.
#495
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Ya just never know when a guy that blows by if they are riding an e-road or mtb. A couple of years ago I was busting my aspirin on a shot climb when this old guy blows my doors off. He did slow down and had the decency to tell me that his Specialized was electrified and to not feel bad. He then zipped away.
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As far as aging to 100, seeing the condition of my parents mentally and physically (with a portent of my genetic destiny) I think I will pass. Dad is going strong physically at 95 but his short term memory is completely shot. It’s not unusual to hear the same sentence three times in 20 minutes. Mom at 94 had terrible health and became paranoid about conspiracies against her by everyone. Also believing that people were stealing was constant. I offered to buy her a complete set of silverware several times because the spoons were being stolen by caregivers. Yeesh. I only hope I have the presence of mind to know when it time to check myself out.
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As far as aging to 100, seeing the condition of my parents mentally and physically (with a portent of my genetic destiny) I think I will pass. Dad is going strong physically at 95 but his short term memory is completely shot. It’s not unusual to hear the same sentence three times in 20 minutes. Mom at 94 had terrible health and became paranoid about conspiracies against her by everyone. Also believing that people were stealing was constant. I offered to buy her a complete set of silverware several times because the spoons were being stolen by caregivers. Yeesh. I only hope I have the presence of mind to know when it time to check myself out.
It does remind me, though, of one time I had one of those "Cycling God" days. You know, when your fitness just seems WAY higher than normal for you, and every time you ask your legs for more power, they comply? I passed a number of cyclists near the bottom of a ~ 1 mile, 3% gradient, then we all got stopped at the 3 stop lights on that segment. Each time they all took off first because I can't clip in with Keos like I can with Deltas, and each time I caught and dropped them easily. At the last light, some guy on an old Kestrel said, "It's nice when the bike does it for you", which I only later realized meant he thought I was riding an e-bike.
Nope. Just an exceptional day.
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It wasn't an e-bike. I got a good chance to look at his bike at the light. No fat rear hub, no swollen BB area, no sound but tires on the pavement, He's just skinnier and fitter than I am.
It does remind me, though, of one time I had one of those "Cycling God" days. You know, when your fitness just seems WAY higher than normal for you, and every time you ask your legs for more power, they comply? I passed a number of cyclists near the bottom of a ~ 1 mile, 3% gradient, then we all got stopped at the 3 stop lights on that segment. Each time they all took off first because I can't clip in with Keos like I can with Deltas, and each time I caught and dropped them easily. At the last light, some guy on an old Kestrel said, "It's nice when the bike does it for you", which I only later realized meant he thought I was riding an e-bike.
Nope. Just an exceptional day.
It does remind me, though, of one time I had one of those "Cycling God" days. You know, when your fitness just seems WAY higher than normal for you, and every time you ask your legs for more power, they comply? I passed a number of cyclists near the bottom of a ~ 1 mile, 3% gradient, then we all got stopped at the 3 stop lights on that segment. Each time they all took off first because I can't clip in with Keos like I can with Deltas, and each time I caught and dropped them easily. At the last light, some guy on an old Kestrel said, "It's nice when the bike does it for you", which I only later realized meant he thought I was riding an e-bike.
Nope. Just an exceptional day.

My wife and i did an organized metric a couple years ago on our Domane+ Treks. We didn't know anybody but a group of middle-aged guys offered to let us ride with them. It was ridden at a decent pace and we took our pulls. Towards the end, a couple of the guys were really struggling. After the ride, a guy asked how old I was and that I must be a really good rider. Unsaid, for a portly old guy. So, I told him and I pointed to my BB and told him I had help. He was relieved to find out that an overweight guy in his 70s looked fresh because of the help.
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I've got this report that has killer initiative, always jumping on tasks. He's a graduate level scientist. Sometimes, it's to his detriment. Doing menial things that our lab techs could support. Then, he complains about how productive he is and how its hard to manage time and gain ground on his goals. My replies are usually something along the lines of "maybe you should work less" (and think more). His productivity is extremely high. Too high. Duder needs to see the forest from the trees a bit
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I've got this report that has killer initiative, always jumping on tasks. He's a graduate level scientist. Sometimes, it's to his detriment. Doing menial things that our lab techs could support. Then, he complains about how productive he is and how its hard to manage time and gain ground on his goals. My replies are usually something along the lines of "maybe you should work less" (and think more). His productivity is extremely high. Too high. Duder needs to see the forest from the trees a bit
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It wasn't an e-bike. I got a good chance to look at his bike at the light. No fat rear hub, no swollen BB area, no sound but tires on the pavement, He's just skinnier and fitter than I am.
It does remind me, though, of one time I had one of those "Cycling God" days. You know, when your fitness just seems WAY higher than normal for you, and every time you ask your legs for more power, they comply? I passed a number of cyclists near the bottom of a ~ 1 mile, 3% gradient, then we all got stopped at the 3 stop lights on that segment. Each time they all took off first because I can't clip in with Keos like I can with Deltas, and each time I caught and dropped them easily. At the last light, some guy on an old Kestrel said, "It's nice when the bike does it for you", which I only later realized meant he thought I was riding an e-bike.
Nope. Just an exceptional day.
It does remind me, though, of one time I had one of those "Cycling God" days. You know, when your fitness just seems WAY higher than normal for you, and every time you ask your legs for more power, they comply? I passed a number of cyclists near the bottom of a ~ 1 mile, 3% gradient, then we all got stopped at the 3 stop lights on that segment. Each time they all took off first because I can't clip in with Keos like I can with Deltas, and each time I caught and dropped them easily. At the last light, some guy on an old Kestrel said, "It's nice when the bike does it for you", which I only later realized meant he thought I was riding an e-bike.
Nope. Just an exceptional day.
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