The Aussie Thread- Part 3
#251
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Originally Posted by classic1
Does the ride feel like wearing trousers or a dress? 
I think I might give up my occassional trolling - people might take me seriously

I think I might give up my occassional trolling - people might take me seriously
#253
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OK track stars: got any tips on gear selection for track. New bike comes standard with 48x16, but how do you figure out what other ratios to buy?
Do I get a 14 and 15 straight up, plus a 17 for violently windy days? Invest in 49 and 50 rings as well to split the range of available ratios neatly?
Do I get a 14 and 15 straight up, plus a 17 for violently windy days? Invest in 49 and 50 rings as well to split the range of available ratios neatly?
#254
Originally Posted by jock
OK track stars: got any tips on gear selection for track. New bike comes standard with 48x16, but how do you figure out what other ratios to buy?
Do I get a 14 and 15 straight up, plus a 17 for violently windy days? Invest in 49 and 50 rings as well to split the range of available ratios neatly?
Do I get a 14 and 15 straight up, plus a 17 for violently windy days? Invest in 49 and 50 rings as well to split the range of available ratios neatly?
48x16 is a good gear to start, I have that or a 48x15.
Bigger gears are very hard to get started and are mostly for sprints. For good all around track use a 48x16 is good, just work on getting the spin going and you'll be fine. Smaller gears work better for quick accelarations which is important in most of the track racing you will do.
Guys like Brad and Mellish fly on those sorts of ratios.
#255
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Originally Posted by jock
OK track stars: got any tips on gear selection for track. New bike comes standard with 48x16, but how do you figure out what other ratios to buy?
Do I get a 14 and 15 straight up, plus a 17 for violently windy days? Invest in 49 and 50 rings as well to split the range of available ratios neatly?
Do I get a 14 and 15 straight up, plus a 17 for violently windy days? Invest in 49 and 50 rings as well to split the range of available ratios neatly?
Buy a 49, 13, 14, 15.
That should see you through.
Maybe a 50 ring if you start making a big wheelrace finals.
#256
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Originally Posted by climbo
you should get all of that
48x16 is a good gear to start, I have that or a 48x15.
Bigger gears are very hard to get started and are mostly for sprints. For good all around track use a 48x16 is good, just work on getting the spin going and you'll be fine. Smaller gears work better for quick accelarations which is important in most of the track racing you will do.
Guys like Brad and Mellish fly on those sorts of ratios.
48x16 is a good gear to start, I have that or a 48x15.
Bigger gears are very hard to get started and are mostly for sprints. For good all around track use a 48x16 is good, just work on getting the spin going and you'll be fine. Smaller gears work better for quick accelarations which is important in most of the track racing you will do.
Guys like Brad and Mellish fly on those sorts of ratios.
Are you allowed to ride with two sprockets on a flip-flop, or do you have to remove the one that's not in use?
#257
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Originally Posted by ed073
Buy a 49, 13, 14, 15.
That should see you through.
Maybe a 50 ring if you start making a big wheelrace finals.
That should see you through.
Maybe a 50 ring if you start making a big wheelrace finals.
So I'll take your advice and climbo's and just get a one or two extra gears. I can always throw away more money later
#258
Originally Posted by jock
However I just found a nice little article which explains the difference between ratios in reverse: at some speed (say 50kmh) the difference between two ratios can be pretty small in terms of cadence.
#259
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Originally Posted by classic1
It's sounds strange, but some riders prefer bigger chainrings over smaller ones. Sprinters tend to use 47, 48, 49. The endurance riders 50....53
Yeh....bigger rings seem to "roll" better. Don't ask me to explain why....I have no idea.
Same on the road.
#260
Originally Posted by ed073
Yeh....bigger rings seem to "roll" better. Don't ask me to explain why....I have no idea.
Same on the road.
Same on the road.
#261
Originally Posted by jock
It's a pretty long and shallow track which suits bigger ratios, but by the same token its open to some hell winds! However I just found a nice little article which explains the difference between ratios in reverse: at some speed (say 50kmh) the difference between two ratios can be pretty small in terms of cadence.
Are you allowed to ride with two sprockets on a flip-flop, or do you have to remove the one that's not in use?
Are you allowed to ride with two sprockets on a flip-flop, or do you have to remove the one that's not in use?
#262
Originally Posted by climbo
search the road forums, I'm sure there's been plenty of bull**** tossed around on that subject. 

#266
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From: Between the mountains and the lake.
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Originally Posted by jock
Your not wrong there. Nice if a recovery ride is on your program but useless otherwise. I used to use it for a chat, but I've noticed the same guys stick together to gab amongst themselves week after week. I'm not the greatest conversationalist out there, so if I end up next to a snot-nosed junior it's a pretty quiet (and boring) ride! 
Coffee run does go to Saturdays during crit season, and at some point it will start 1/2 hour earlier (when daylight savings starts?) which is good too.

Coffee run does go to Saturdays during crit season, and at some point it will start 1/2 hour earlier (when daylight savings starts?) which is good too.
#267
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From: n.w. superdrome
Bikes: 1 trek, serotta, rih, de Reus, Pogliaghi and finally a Zieleman! and got a DeRosa
Originally Posted by 531Aussie
since 1999 (same year as Lance started taking. . .wait wrong thread).
It is in it's 3rd incarnation.
Very savvy group over there (which is why I lurk), including
Richard Sachs, Don Walker, Don Ferris, Curt Goodrich,
Sacha White, a few ex pros (belgian trade teams), a solicitor
or two (who else could afford the new Serotta $8000 frame and
fork!).
No aussie thread tho.
oh yeah Thylacine posts there too, by invitation from e-richie!.
marty
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#268
jock, I was slightly incorrect, I have a 14 and 15 cog for my track bike. 48x14 is pretty big, 92 gear inches, equivalent to about your 53x15.5. Changing cogs is easier than rings so start with the 16, then go to the 15 or 14 if you need to. Of course you'll need the tools to change cogs with if you don't already.
#269
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Originally Posted by jock
OK track stars: got any tips on gear selection for track. New bike comes standard with 48x16, but how do you figure out what other ratios to buy?
Do I get a 14 and 15 straight up, plus a 17 for violently windy days? Invest in 49 and 50 rings as well to split the range of available ratios neatly?
Do I get a 14 and 15 straight up, plus a 17 for violently windy days? Invest in 49 and 50 rings as well to split the range of available ratios neatly?
I'm about to make the leap too... almost picked one up back home....ran out of time.
#270
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Was going to buy a crap KHS, but settled on a crap 2005 Raceline instead. Puss silver/grey colour, but I'll get over it once I rack up a win. :}
It was so easy to justify the extra $400, most of it in build quality of the frame alone. Rest is in overall weight, >1kg diff I'd reckon. I read yesterday that the frame on the Raceline is actually a MONOC (Czech I think) and they aren't too shabby.
It was so easy to justify the extra $400, most of it in build quality of the frame alone. Rest is in overall weight, >1kg diff I'd reckon. I read yesterday that the frame on the Raceline is actually a MONOC (Czech I think) and they aren't too shabby.
#271
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Originally Posted by 531Aussie
Weird....no threads titled "How fast is Cat IV compared to Cat V?" or "What helmet mirror do you use??"
That's no bike forum!!
#272
Originally Posted by ed073
Weird....no threads titled "How fast is Cat IV compared to Cat V?" or "What helmet mirror do you use??"
That's no bike forum!!
That's no bike forum!!
LOL, nice one Ed !
#273
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sarcasm is my strongpoint....
#274
Originally Posted by 531Aussie
Last edited by classic1; 08-24-05 at 02:44 AM.



