Actually I can talk about the helmet issue because I was making a comparison thus staying completely on subject, would you wear a generic non safety approved USA federal standard chinese made helmet? which you refused to answer which suggests to me that you wouldn't risk your head to a non USA approved helmet made in China, so why would you risk riding a generic Chinese made fork, wheel, or frame?

And no, most Chinese companies do not just simply send you back a new part, which is why my LBS has to replace those Chinese parts because the buyer tried to get the problem resolved and failed to and thus after learning their lesson went to an LBS to get parts that would be warrantied should a problem arise.

But are forks, wheels and frames going thru a "safety approved USA federal standard" process? Also note, standards are just that, standards. Every product out there hasn't been proven to pass the standard. Hey, I'd love it, if there was helmet testing so that we'd not just know a specific model passed a standard, but by how much it exceeded the standard. Plenty of regs and standards exist for car companies, but we all know that recalls happen, and some for quite dangerous flaws.

Can we bring this thread back on track? It's a sin to turn the To forum into a carbon discussion 🙂

No no no, most of those cheap e-bay and alibaba, etc do not in any way shape or form go through a USA federal standard safety certification just as the cheap china direct helmets do not either.

There has been too many times a Chinese product caught fire, like those cheap rechargeable headlights, that burned down houses, even stuff that was made by China and sent to be sold in America have had major issues, remember the bad dog food that killed dogs across America? But you still don't see any of that, nor do you see the fact that you have no recourse if a product liability case should arise out of the use of a flawed product made in China. This stuff is all over the internet, Chinese ginseng killing people in Africa; this sort of thing isn't rare either, just google it and find out for yourself. Here's one site with some infor: Are Chinese Products Slowly Killing Us?

And since you insist that all Chinese products are made the same whether they say Trek or nothing, then maybe you should read this: Not all frames are created equal. A look deep inside the carbon in counterfeit bikes | VeloNews.com

And this: Dangers of fake bike parts highlighted by BBC documentary - Cycling Weekly

Like I said over and over, you buy whatever you want from wherever you want, me personally I would never buy direct from China.

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Thread rerail?
The top tube bag is long gone having been replaced by more practical saddle bag, I'll post an updated pic soon. Oh yeah, its a Serotta Legend Ti.
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2016 Lynskey Cooper

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Thank you, I was getting a popcicle headache 🤕

Mosaic RT-1d with ENVE 4.5AR
 

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2008 Moots Compact

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Blacksheep Highlight

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Nice... by any chance did you weight the frame? I've bee lusting a mosaic for a while...

No, I forgot to weigh the bare frame, I got too excited to build it up and then realized I hadn't. The disc brakes and large rear cassette make the complete bike almost 19 lbs, which is heavy as compared to my other Ti road bikes. It doesn't feel heavy riding it, however, and I guess is the price you pay for deep aero wide wheels, 31mm tires, disc brakes and mtn bike gearing. It rides great and fits me perfectly (it should, given the amount of time I spent with my other bikes and BideCAD figuring out every dimension).

Beautiful. But get the Ti seat topper.

I will check it out.

Fixed my pics.

My Ti over the years
 

1992
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early 2000
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current set up
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That Spectrum is great! One day....

Awesome! Love Black Sheep bikes.

Ghisallo
 

My 2007 Ghisallo, still going strong (rebuilt several times, currently with a front disc and SRAM eTap)

My face hurts looking at this. I'd love to go for a winter ride, but I don't think I could get out of my neighborhood safely on anything but a fat bike right now!

End-of-the-year ride, someone had a flat and I had a good backdrop

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Cross post with Hot 'r Not.

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1997 Merlin; 63 cm C-T
2017 Shimano Dura-ace R9100 mechanical and other good stuff.

1997 Litespeed Catalyst, 59cm, with Veloce 10-speed & Vento wheels.

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Just threw the Novembers on it a couple days ago, yet to have time to ride (discovered mold mid remodel, been otherwise occupied...).

Lynskey R150 disc
Enve road disc fork
Enve carbon handlebar
Thmoson Masterpiece post
November Select+ Disc w/ White Industries CLD hubs blue, Kinlin XR31TS rims, tubeless
Mostly 105 group with the 685 hydraulic shifter/brake combo
Brooks C15 carved