nope
I'm in Florida
but NORTH FLORIDA
burrrr

but actually - not to be too funny; but I have a nerve condition that makes temps under 75 or so painful
so I much prefer the warmer tempetures of March thru October - actually I like Hurricane season the best

OK, I'll take back the Houston comment. Sorry about your nerve problem. I hear Tahiti is nice....

Mike, you answered Bikewise's questions like Hillary Clinton answers questions.

I own a couple of businesses, and ran one that was over a hundred million in revenue. As a business owner I suggest you not get into p i s s i n g matches on this forum. Because when you get asked the hard questions like Bikewise asked, you resort to responses like the above...you ought to let your business practices, procedures, and products stand on their own. Based on what I am reading, I am not sure that's the case. You seem to spend an inordinate amount of time defending your methods.

I'll be showing this to the next person I talk to with a sheaf of BD downloaded photos and specs....

more like W or Dick.

More like free advertising for you!

And blowing? Whatever floats your boat, dude, but keep it to yourself!

:)

I wasn't going to say anything, but damn...I hope that was a typo.

Over my dead body. Keep your socialized medicine to yourself, please. :p

it's actually not that bad (even if my one experience was at a dental hospital :eek: ).

My parents are die hard Republicans. They are both 80. I asked them why they were so dead-set against socialized medicine since they were already on it (Medicare). Works for them. F all the younger people without insurance.

Hey, is that politics?

Oh, I'm sure you can find adequate healthcare from competent providers. My concern is from more of a career standpoint. The money just isn't there.

that's right, not enough money for greedy Americans.

Less money for healthcare providers=less people pursuing a career in healthcare. Its easy to criticize, until you're in need of services and can't get them.

Healthcare providers in the UK make plenty of money and there is no shortage of workforce.

Ther're cheap because the only thing Dura Ace in thier Full Dura Ace bike, is the levers , deraileurs, and the chain. No crank, no bracket, no brakes, no cables-housings.

I'm confident that if somehow we contain the preposterous way-over-any-rate-of-inflation explosion in health care costs there will still be kids lining up to get into med school. And if they won't, there are about 10 million talented and highly educated young Indian doctors who will gladly emigrate here to take their place. Legally.

The thought of medical pro compensation having fiscal constraints (like the rest of the white collar work force) may be a novel concept to Mr. Namenda, but he might want to get used to it. It's supposed to be how we all stay healthy. It's not intended as a ticket to yachts and mansions for great surgeons. That's not the idea. If some doctors make big money within that system, great. But it is getting harder. Finally.

This notion that if a med school diploma isn't a punching a $1 million dollar per year ticket that we'll run out of doctors is ridiculous.

How much for really good Mets seats? If they stop playing ridiculous salaries, will they run out of good ballplayers?

;)

Just kidding....

Actually, they make substandard wages, and the country is having to entice foreign-born nurses to move to England to make up for the shortfall in staff. Do a bit of research.

There's an oversupply of people, actually. Far too many people have been trained to be doctors, so lots of young would-be-doctors are left without jobs.

I couldn't afford to cycle if I lived in the States. And even if you have health insurance you get some nasty co-payment of 20% or whatever unless you're a hotshot whatever. And then the fee for a non-pre-authorised ambulance trip or whatever.

When I crash my bike I like my free ambulance ride (well, I like the free part, not necessarily the ride part). And I like to be able to just sign a release form and walk out the door when they've sewn me up, rather than have to whip out a credit card and insurance info.

Damn, I love how BF threads go off on the most random tangents... :D

Politics and religion always provide more entertainment than BikesDirect!

Wha???

Meanwhile all my med school friends are panicked about being able to get jobs after graduation...

The Indian and Polish doctors and nurses come because they can make more money here.

From the BBC

Meanwhile Cuba sends doctors to poor Florida communities to provide free health clinics...

Granted, a lot of British-trained doctors decamp to the States to make more money, after having had their med school paid for by the NHS...


But regardless, I'll take free healthcare any day. Beats having to sit at home and wait for a broken leg to heal on its own when I can't afford insurance or treatment.

it's good enough for a 13 hour commute. http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/20.../15/nhs.health

The US population is getting older and sicker. The costs to care for our aging population are only going to go up. Dissuading people from seeking a career in healthcare by limiting compensation is not the answer to the problem. Enticing people into the profession through attractive wage and benefit packages is.

You can program a computer to monitor your stock portfolio, pcad. But you can't program one to put you on a bedpan, or feed you after you've had a stroke.

While you are right about the nursing situation, your claim about doctors in the UK is rubbish. Substandard to what?

Newsflash: if we slashed medical pro compensation by 10% across the board tomorrow morning, the system would still have ample personnel even if it took a year or two to adjust. Don't lose a lot of sleep over that. And if you do, reach for the Ambien.

If you have any doubts about this, sample the workplace. Get back to me in a couple of years kid.

We need some religion here too.

Proposed: Sikhism is a cooler religion than Mormonism because the Sikhs get to carry a knife and have cooler holy underwear than the Mormons.

Discuss.

:D

I haven't, at any time, mentioned doctors. I don't know what kind of money English doctors make, or how their pay compares to physicians in other countries.