Bike Forums

Bike Forums (https://www.bikeforums.net/forum.php)
-   Road Cycling (https://www.bikeforums.net/road-cycling/)
-   -   bikes direct? (https://www.bikeforums.net/road-cycling/380939-bikes-direct.html)

Treefox 01-21-08 02:19 PM

Regardless, I'll take my free ambulance ride over one my half-assed insurance (if I'm lucky enough to have one - assigned to me by my cost-cutting employer) announces it won't pay for.

Then I'll take my free stitches over those my half-assed insurance company (if I'm lucky enough to have one) tells me to pay 20% for, then jacks up my premiums because I 'live a hazardous lifestyle.'


I don't recall where I heard it, but I did once hear the US healthcare system described as 'the only one designed to look after the healthy people.'

anfieldmx5 01-21-08 02:19 PM


Originally Posted by Namenda (Post 6022988)
I haven't, at any time, mentioned doctors. I don't know what kind of money English doctors make, or how their pay compares to physicians in other countries.

Do a bit of research.

patentcad 01-21-08 02:20 PM


Originally Posted by Namenda (Post 6022988)
I haven't, at any time, mentioned doctors. I don't know what kind of money English doctors make, or how their pay compares to physicians in other countries.

This guy must be a Pats fan. He feels invincible. And who can blame him?

Nachoman 01-21-08 02:24 PM

Focus people focus. Aren't we still bashing Bikes Direct?

urban_assault 01-21-08 02:27 PM


Originally Posted by Nachoman (Post 6023042)
Focus people focus. Aren't we still bashing Bikes Direct?

Maybe it is time to lock this thread and start over.;)

Namenda 01-21-08 02:30 PM


Originally Posted by patentcad (Post 6023015)
This guy must be a Pats fan. He feels invincible. And who can blame him?

Its the AFC Championship hangover. Not to be confused with the World Series hangover.

Namenda 01-21-08 02:33 PM


Originally Posted by Treefox (Post 6023003)
I don't recall where I heard it, but I did once hear the US healthcare system described as 'the only one designed to look after the healthy people.'

If you can maintain perfect health, then just inexplicably drop dead one day, it won't cost you a dime. Well, except for the funeral. But I won't go there.

Treefox 01-21-08 02:35 PM


Originally Posted by Namenda (Post 6023091)
Its the AFC Championship hangover. Not to be confused with the World Series hangover.

Woah, we're really rocketing through subject matter here.

So, could I use nutmeg to top a chocolate fondant instead of cinnamon? If, theoretically, I were out of cinnamon, would this work? Or would the taste of nutmeg clash with the dark chocolate? And should I keep to chocolate made of greater than 70% cocoa solids or can I get away with something more like 50% and still maintain a good level of chocolatey goodness?

Treefox 01-21-08 02:36 PM


Originally Posted by Namenda (Post 6023105)
If you can maintain perfect health, then just inexplicably drop dead one day, it won't cost you a dime. Well, except for the funeral. But I won't go there.

But if some loser up the paceline goes over his bars causing a pile-up, you're out $1000 or whatever for the ambulance.

Chocolate fondant anyone?

Amen 01-21-08 02:39 PM


Originally Posted by Namenda (Post 6022988)
I haven't, at any time, mentioned doctors. I don't know what kind of money English doctors make, or how their pay compares to physicians in other countries.



Certain fields in medicine make more than other.

An ER dr or anybody in pediatrics can expect to make between 150K, and 250K.

Specialists and surgeons on avg can expect beween 300K and 500K.

Specializing is a no brainer, but coming out of residency and being in so much debt and making between 20-50k you are tempted to take the lower paying jobs, plus it is so competitive because everyone wants the specialist spot that requires the least human contact (radiology etc)

Thats in a nutshell what its like a for a new Dr.

Namenda 01-21-08 02:39 PM


Originally Posted by Treefox (Post 6023123)
Chocolate fondant anyone?

I'll take two, please. Then I'll up my Lipitor dose tomorrow morning.

anfieldmx5 01-21-08 02:40 PM

Interesting avatar Namenda. Do you pay attention to Mr Waters lyrics?

Namenda 01-21-08 02:42 PM


Originally Posted by anfieldmx5 (Post 6023152)
Interesting avatar Namenda. Do you pay attention to Mr Waters lyrics?

Yes. I enjoy listening to him very much. That doesn't mean I agree with everything he says.

patentcad 01-21-08 02:43 PM


Originally Posted by Treefox (Post 6023119)
Woah, we're really rocketing through subject matter here.

http://foreignerinformosa.typepad.co...e_e_coyote.jpg

What's your point?

Hammertoe 01-21-08 02:46 PM


Originally Posted by patentcad (Post 6022965)
Newsflash: if we slashed medical pro compensation by 10% across the board tomorrow morning, the system would still have ample personnel even if it took a year or two to adjust. Don't lose a lot of sleep over that. And if you do, reach for the Ambien.

If you have any doubts about this, sample the workplace. Get back to me in a couple of years kid.



If you slashed doctors compensation 10% across the board there would be a lot of doctors out of business...

Doctors compensation is a small part of what is spent on health care in the country...




And don't get me started on what I feel about BikesDirect...

datlas 01-21-08 02:52 PM


Originally Posted by Amen (Post 6023142)
Certain fields in medicine make more than other.

An ER dr or anybody in pediatrics can expect to make between 150K, and 250K.

Specialists and surgeons on avg can expect beween 300K and 500K.

Specializing is a no brainer, but coming out of residency and being in so much debt and making between 20-50k you are tempted to take the lower paying jobs, plus it is so competitive because everyone wants the specialist spot that requires the least human contact (radiology etc)

Thats in a nutshell what its like a for a new Dr.

Amen, not sure where you live or work....but in Eastern Pennsylvania (metro Philly) primary care doctors (family medicine, pediatrics, internal medicine) work very hard and make 75K - 150K. ER makes a little more. Specialists make even more. I agree that physician compensation is a very small part of healthcare costs, most of it goes for diagnostic tests and/or hospitals.

This is very off subject, but no moreso than cinnamon vs nutmeg.

patentcad 01-21-08 02:53 PM


Originally Posted by Hammertoe (Post 6023211)
If you slashed doctors compensation 10% across the board there would be a lot of doctors out of business...

Doctors compensation is a small part of what is spent on health care in the country...





And don't get me started on what I feel about BikesDirect...

Please elaborate.

http://augmental.files.wordpress.com.../timebomb2.gif

anfieldmx5 01-21-08 02:54 PM


Originally Posted by Namenda (Post 6023174)
Yes. I enjoy listening to him very much. That doesn't mean I agree with everything he says.

Waters or Gilmore?

urban_assault 01-21-08 02:54 PM


Originally Posted by patentcad (Post 6023255)

:roflmao:

Namenda 01-21-08 02:58 PM


Originally Posted by anfieldmx5 (Post 6023256)
Waters or Gilmore?

You asked about Waters, so that's who I meant. I try hard not to let politics color my personality. I do like the solo material from both of them. I saw Waters in concert the past two years...great shows, hope he comes around again.

anfieldmx5 01-21-08 03:01 PM


Originally Posted by Namenda (Post 6023296)
You asked about Waters, so that's who I meant. I try hard not to let politics color my personality. I do like the solo material from both of them. I saw Waters in concert the past two years...great shows, hope he comes around again.

I saw him last year also, amazing. Hard for me to choose between the two. You are cool again with me.:)

Treefox 01-21-08 03:09 PM

This is getting better than Foo.

How about all those against BD post photos of themselves, and all those in favour of BD post photos of themselves, and those who are undecided can vote on which side is hotter.

It'll be a 'Hotties of the BD threads' competition! If the 'Anti-BD' folk win, Mike has to change his sales model. If the 'Pro-BD' people win, I promise to buy one of his Motobecanes with extra-large decals and ride it around town with a dunce cap on.

Namenda 01-21-08 03:19 PM


Originally Posted by anfieldmx5 (Post 6023312)
I saw him last year also, amazing. Hard for me to choose between the two. You are cool again with me.:)

:beer:

StupidlyBrave 01-21-08 03:58 PM


Originally Posted by rollin (Post 6020332)
Does your warranty compare to Trek?


Originally Posted by www.bikesdirect.com
Warranty
Trek gives lifetime against defects or a $350 crash credit towards a new frame (08 frame/fork = $2749) so, you would pay about $2400+tax to replace your Trek frame

Motobecane has a lifetime, no fault frame replacement program. You pay less than wholesale to replace your Immortal frame. A replacement Trek road bike frame costs you about $2,000 more than the Motobecane Immortal.

See for yourself:
http://www.bikesdirect.com/products/...tal_ice_08.htm

BikeWise1 01-21-08 07:22 PM

StupidlyBrave:

Was your post trying to support BD?

According to the link you posted:

Trek gives lifetime against defects or a $350 crash credit towards a new frame (08 frame/fork = $2749) so, you would pay about $2400+tax to replace your Trek frame

This is just plain false. As in untrue. As in "a lie". Here is the truth. Please note there is no "either/or " warranty condition. I'll post tomorrow about the crash replacement costs after I discuss this with my Trek rep. I certainly don't recall any of my customers having to fork out such a large sum for a replacement. Trek has built a lot of frames and through their rigorous R&D and testing, know what makes them break, and what doesn't. That said, I have never seen them refuse to warranty any frame I thought was defective.

The link also states:

Motobecane has a lifetime, no fault frame replacement program. You pay less than wholesale to replace your Immortal frame.

Have you read the entire warranty? Do you understand that even if a Motobecane frame fails because it is defective, you will still have to pay to get a new one? Some warranty...:rolleyes: Either way, BD covers its costs.


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 02:54 AM.


Copyright © 2026 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.