Why are LBS prices so high??
06-08-08, 12:58 PM
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Look I can sugarcoat it for you and justify the price for you. But in reality, paying for couple of light bulbs and rent with some taxes doesn't exactly approve LBS prices. It's plain and simple, I have my own business (nursing home) and I'm also a commercial real estate broker. In both cases I don't let no 18 year old punk sell me on his BS. That's my job.
That is astonishing.
06-08-08, 12:58 PM
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I would change you double, you come across like a jerk - really.
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06-08-08, 12:59 PM
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It's a Wal-Mart world, man. We want it as cheap as possible, and the less I know about what corners you cut and how poorly skilled your workforce is, the happier I'm going to be to pay peanuts for your services.
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06-08-08, 01:01 PM
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You're a business owner? What sort of business do you own? I'm a business owner (Electrical Contractor) and charge $85 an hour and pay my guys on average $25 an hour. Labor burden is $15 so my cost of labor is $40, add to that my overhead expenses are $20 per man hour so it COSTS ME $60 an hour just to put a man on a job. So, in my case I'm ripping off the public to the tune of $25 an hour (my theoretical profit) but wait, there are a million things that kill productivity so jobs often take longer than I calculated, so that $25 an hour gets squeezed pretty fast.
If I only marked up my labor cost by 80% I'd be out of business pretty fast. On the parts side, I'm lucky to get 15% markup which does not even pay my material handling costs.
OK, I've shared with you the harsh reality of running a (successful) electrical contracting business, now you tell us what business you're in and what your overhead, profit and labor costs are. I'm pretty sure you are not a real businessman but I'm willing to take you at your word and listen to what it takes to run *your* business.
Let's hear it, it's your turn.
If I only marked up my labor cost by 80% I'd be out of business pretty fast. On the parts side, I'm lucky to get 15% markup which does not even pay my material handling costs.
OK, I've shared with you the harsh reality of running a (successful) electrical contracting business, now you tell us what business you're in and what your overhead, profit and labor costs are. I'm pretty sure you are not a real businessman but I'm willing to take you at your word and listen to what it takes to run *your* business.
Let's hear it, it's your turn.
I went and hired some russian guy who was licensed and paid 75$. At least that way I was getting my moneys worth.
06-08-08, 01:03 PM
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06-08-08, 01:10 PM
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Look most people who agree with me are staying out of this one, the rest of you are acting like sheeps. I can't waist time and educate you all.
Point is, LBS just like every other small businesses need to hustle. You guys let them hustle you without a drop of effort. I think it's a wonderful business. I will look into it, and no I won't call you a dumbass when you show up. I'll use all the same excuses you gave here to make you leave as much cash as possible before you exit out the door
Point is, LBS just like every other small businesses need to hustle. You guys let them hustle you without a drop of effort. I think it's a wonderful business. I will look into it, and no I won't call you a dumbass when you show up. I'll use all the same excuses you gave here to make you leave as much cash as possible before you exit out the door
06-08-08, 01:10 PM
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electricians charge 150 bucks an hour around here. Or at least first hour. So yea when you say u charge 85 and someone charges me 150 I say that;s a rip off.
I went and hired some russian guy who was licensed and paid 75$. At least that way I was getting my moneys worth.
I went and hired some russian guy who was licensed and paid 75$. At least that way I was getting my moneys worth.
Not everything is a commodity, some business owners must charge more because they offer more. Little nose pickers like you are price shoppers only, you have no concept of VALUE.
My bowel movements are smarter than you. Take a hike you little creep.
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06-08-08, 01:13 PM
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n/m.
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06-08-08, 01:17 PM
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Look most people who agree with me are staying out of this one, the rest of you are acting like sheeps. I can't waist time and educate you all.
Point is, LBS just like every other small businesses need to hustle. You guys let them hustle you without a drop of effort. I think it's a wonderful business. I will look into it, and no I won't call you a dumbass when you show up. I'll use all the same excuses you gave here to make you leave as much cash as possible before you exit out the door
Point is, LBS just like every other small businesses need to hustle. You guys let them hustle you without a drop of effort. I think it's a wonderful business. I will look into it, and no I won't call you a dumbass when you show up. I'll use all the same excuses you gave here to make you leave as much cash as possible before you exit out the door
This is as delusional as it gets, though I imagine that the world is a comforting place for the OP when he can just imagine up legions of supporters for every assinine view he holds. Amazing.
OP, I have a feeling if I met you, no loved one of mine would EVER stay in your nursing home. I wouldn't trust a hateful delusional jerk to take care of them in a way I would feel comfortable with.
This will be my last reply to this clown. deco101, welcome to the ignore list.
I suggest the rest of you do the same.
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06-08-08, 01:17 PM
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don't forget how graciously nursing homes pay their employees. yuck yuck
06-08-08, 01:21 PM
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Look, you're a little skid mark truly unworthy of my time, but you assign credibility to who ever gives you the lowest price, and assume that anyone that charges more must be a rip off. That russian electrician probably wont be in business in 3 years and probably wont provide warranty service if something goes wrong.
Not everything is a commodity, some business owners must charge more because they offer more. Little nose pickers like you are price shoppers only, you have no concept of VALUE.
My bowel movements are smarter than you. Take a hike you little creep.
Not everything is a commodity, some business owners must charge more because they offer more. Little nose pickers like you are price shoppers only, you have no concept of VALUE.
My bowel movements are smarter than you. Take a hike you little creep.
06-08-08, 01:22 PM
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1. You do not own a nursing home.
2. If you did, you would gladly pay for a bike shop to service your bicycle.
You would lose more in oppurtunity cost if you didn't
3. You really need to become less of a plastic bottle filled with a water and vinegar solution with a plastic applique.
2. If you did, you would gladly pay for a bike shop to service your bicycle.
You would lose more in oppurtunity cost if you didn't
3. You really need to become less of a plastic bottle filled with a water and vinegar solution with a plastic applique.
06-08-08, 01:23 PM
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OOOOH, that's a good one! Like saying that you would have won if all the people who said they would vote for you actually voted for you.
Rich......really rich.
Like when this happens?
Good Morning, Mr. Chairman. I am George Grob, Deputy Inspector General for Evaluation and Inspections of the Department of Health and Human Services. I am here today to discuss fraud, waste, and abuse in nursing homes. My testimony focuses on the "gaming" of billings by some nursing home owners and by suppliers of medical services and supplies. This gaming ultimately takes the form of unnecessary services, excessive prices, and fraudulent billings; and it results in a loss of quality of care for the nursing home residents. It will take aggressive administrative action and legislation to eliminate these problems.
I'll let you know when I am able to cook the books so that Medicare pays for my shop's budget shortfalls! And in your position as someone who receives payments from the government, I'd be very careful about posting your intentions to:
Then again, I'm pretty sure you don't "own" a nursing home. I'm sure if you did, you would be happy to post a little more info. Certainly your picture or bio is on the "about us" webpage along with your unique qualifications and expertise in caring for the aged and infirm....
Point is, LBS just like every other small businesses need to hustle. You guys let them hustle you without a drop of effort. I think it's a wonderful business. I will look into it, and no I won't call you a dumbass when you show up. I'll use all the same excuses you gave here to make you leave as much cash as possible before you exit out the door
Good Morning, Mr. Chairman. I am George Grob, Deputy Inspector General for Evaluation and Inspections of the Department of Health and Human Services. I am here today to discuss fraud, waste, and abuse in nursing homes. My testimony focuses on the "gaming" of billings by some nursing home owners and by suppliers of medical services and supplies. This gaming ultimately takes the form of unnecessary services, excessive prices, and fraudulent billings; and it results in a loss of quality of care for the nursing home residents. It will take aggressive administrative action and legislation to eliminate these problems.
I'll let you know when I am able to cook the books so that Medicare pays for my shop's budget shortfalls! And in your position as someone who receives payments from the government, I'd be very careful about posting your intentions to:
Then again, I'm pretty sure you don't "own" a nursing home. I'm sure if you did, you would be happy to post a little more info. Certainly your picture or bio is on the "about us" webpage along with your unique qualifications and expertise in caring for the aged and infirm....
06-08-08, 01:24 PM
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Fail.
This is as delusional as it gets, though I imagine that the world is a comforting place for the OP when he can just imagine up legions of supporters for every assinine view he holds. Amazing.
OP, I have a feeling if I met you, no loved one of mine would EVER stay in your nursing home. I wouldn't trust a hateful delusional jerk to take care of them in a way I would feel comfortable with.
This will be my last reply to this clown. deco101, welcome to the ignore list.
I suggest the rest of you do the same.
This is as delusional as it gets, though I imagine that the world is a comforting place for the OP when he can just imagine up legions of supporters for every assinine view he holds. Amazing.
OP, I have a feeling if I met you, no loved one of mine would EVER stay in your nursing home. I wouldn't trust a hateful delusional jerk to take care of them in a way I would feel comfortable with.
This will be my last reply to this clown. deco101, welcome to the ignore list.
I suggest the rest of you do the same.
06-08-08, 01:27 PM
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it was sarcasm, the same one you guys use on constant bases but obviously when the tables turn im the delusional one. Look paying 180 bucks for a service thats worth no more than 100 bucks under any cisrcumstances, is delusional. Saying that you're gettin charged fairly is delusional. That's the reason why 9 out of 10 business fail because they have delusional ideas about businessses.
A delusion is me thinking I can charge less money than it costs to run the business, and stay in business!
06-08-08, 01:35 PM
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06-08-08, 01:41 PM
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so well let's hear how much you love to provide the service, how there's so much overhead expenses and how it's not about the money for you.
Are people really that naive to think that small business owners are not in it for the money********** now that's delusional
Are people really that naive to think that small business owners are not in it for the money********** now that's delusional