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Bikeracer123 10-05-16 05:21 PM


Originally Posted by SpeshulEd (Post 19104158)
Bianchi looks good.

Fuji is still hard to see. Try a white background.

I will take another photo this weekend

thin_concrete 10-05-16 05:24 PM


Originally Posted by rekon (Post 19104129)

Nice! What wheels?

GeneO 10-05-16 06:44 PM


Originally Posted by Dick Rhee (Post 7241697)
Ravenmore's: Hot. Looks like a great functional race bike. Bars are actually lower than the saddle, which is a plus. I personaly don't like Ksyriums, but still. Nice bike.

Here's my Moots, and here's my next bike (on order, will have in approximately a week). I'll sell the wheels and saddle and put on another Arione and I don't know maybe Reynolds Attack or Assault rims.

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a10...tsreynolds.jpg



Moots is hot, though I would remove the spoke reflector on the back wheel :p

bianchi10 10-05-16 09:09 PM


Originally Posted by thin_concrete (Post 19104320)
Nice! What wheels?

Look like Enve 3.4

jerbax18 10-05-16 10:54 PM

[URL="[url=https://flic.kr/p/LYivoS]https://c3.staticflickr.com/6/5799/2...4bf6d7e7_z.jpg

growlerdinky 10-05-16 10:58 PM


Originally Posted by jerbax18 (Post 19104802)

Yes.

rekon 10-06-16 01:01 AM


Originally Posted by bianchi10 (Post 19104704)
Look like Enve 3.4

Yes, they are enve 3.4

Jeremy_S 10-06-16 06:22 AM


Originally Posted by jerbax18 (Post 19104802)
[URL="[url=https://flic.kr/p/LYivoS]https://c3.staticflickr.com/6/5799/2...4bf6d7e7_z.jpg

Oh lord that thing is smoking hot. :love:

TimothyH 10-06-16 06:37 AM

Curved top tube is objectively not hot.

The Moots however, is white hot.


-Tim-

gaucho777 10-06-16 07:44 PM

1990 Merlin

http://i850.photobucket.com/albums/a...ps192iai9n.jpg

kbarch 10-07-16 04:27 AM


Originally Posted by gaucho777 (Post 19106854)

Needs work. I like a nice, sleek quill stem, but that thing is atrocious. It's of a piece with the grubby bar tape and oversized paper clip cages. Could be nice, though.

Wildwood 10-07-16 08:59 AM

Vintage Merlin is usually hot, even if not perfect. With long stem and saddle back, it does not appear to be your optimal size.



Originally Posted by gaucho777 (Post 19106854)


gaucho777 10-07-16 09:21 AM

[MENTION=383563]kbarch[/MENTION], I guess to each his/her own regarding the stem. I actually like it quite a lot, and it's titanium so gives a nice weight savings and goes with the finish of the frame. Some other Ti stems like the Cinelli Grammo I find kind of atrocious with their chunky shapes and inconsistent welds. And I guess one man's grubby is another man's patina. ;)

[MENTION=22396]Wildwood[/MENTION], I see what you mean but I am of the long torso and short legs variety. Stem is not overly long at 120mm. I am still dialing it in, and may move the saddle forward ~.5cm, but the fit overall is good and similar to all my other bikes.

http://i850.photobucket.com/albums/a...psuyuw1ngi.jpg

Wildwood 10-07-16 10:53 AM


Originally Posted by gaucho777 (Post 19107643)
. @Wildwood, I see what you mean but I am of the long torso and short legs variety. Stem is not overly long at 120mm. I am still dialing it in, and may move the saddle forward ~.5cm, but the fit overall is good and similar to all my other bikes.



Optical illusion, it appeared much longer to my eye. Ti fork? Very classy IMHO.


My Macalu is an 'almost Extralight'. Always drooled over Merlins.

sloar 10-07-16 10:57 AM

http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/...psbdabjyyr.jpg

gaucho777 10-07-16 11:47 AM

Thanks, Wildwood. The fork is bonded aluminum and is original to the frame. Later (perhaps starting with the Extralights in '91?) they started coming with carbon forks.

gaucho777 10-07-16 11:49 AM

[MENTION=139746]sloar[/MENTION], the Merckx is HOT! :thumb:

velociraptor 10-07-16 02:45 PM

Forget what the others have said... this bike is undeniably sizzling.


Originally Posted by gaucho777 (Post 19106854)


kbarch 10-08-16 04:49 PM


Originally Posted by gaucho777 (Post 19107643)
[MENTION=383563]kbarch[/MENTION], I guess to each his/her own regarding the stem. I actually like it quite a lot, and it's titanium so gives a nice weight savings and goes with the finish of the frame. Some other Ti stems like the Cinelli Grammo I find kind of atrocious with their chunky shapes and inconsistent welds. And I guess one man's grubby is another man's patina. ;)

Huh. Well, you're right about the welds, but I rather like the shape of the Grammo. And in this case what you have is definitely preferable to threadless.


Originally Posted by velociraptor (Post 19108445)
Forget what the others have said... this bike is undeniably sizzling.

Oh, it's very-deniably sizzling. It's completely lacking in color and brilliance, or anything suggesting heat or little explosions of steam and fat. Look, I'm not saying that it isn't a fine bike - perhaps a beautiful one - but "hot?" No. Patina may be cool, or even very beautiful, but it's not "hot."

Maybe, like most here seem to do, I should ignore the title and consider this to be a place to discuss beauty of all sorts, but I really think "hotness" alone is a quality that's sufficient and appropriate for a showcase of photos that shouldn't require any explanation or prior understanding. "Hot" is a particular kind of perception, and in this context of a forum of friends and strangers, newbs and experts alike, it would seem to be about direct, immediate visual appeal, a sort of raw sensual appreciation that has nothing to do with familiarity or connoisseurship.

I don't doubt that there are lots and lots of bikes that would NEVER get a "hot" here but which make their owners' hearts swell and go pitter-pat. And there are plenty of bikes that win over skeptics once they are explained. But those are matters of acquired appreciation, they aren't the primal response to "hotness."

But back to the bike that prompted this. Perhaps a lot of folks who know and understand a thing or two about bicycles take a look at it and get a bit excited. That may come as no surprise, but it's not the same as an unqualified "hot." In any event, it is not a very high compliment, so it's just as well, maybe preferable, to be judged something other than "hot."

raisinberry777 10-08-16 05:45 PM


Originally Posted by kbarch (Post 19110502)
Huh. Well, you're right about the welds, but I rather like the shape of the Grammo. And in this case what you have is definitely preferable to threadless.

I think it's more the bit slightly above that's off-putting, to me a nice quill stem is about nice sharp angles, for example, this Nitto Technomic:
http://s188.photobucket.com/user/jas..._1068.jpg.html

velociraptor 10-08-16 06:48 PM


Originally Posted by kbarch (Post 19110502)
Oh, it's very-deniably sizzling. It's completely lacking in color and brilliance, or anything suggesting heat or little explosions of steam and fat. Look, I'm not saying that it isn't a fine bike - perhaps a beautiful one - but "hot?" No. Patina may be cool, or even very beautiful, but it's not "hot."

Maybe, like most here seem to do, I should ignore the title and consider this to be a place to discuss beauty of all sorts, but I really think "hotness" alone is a quality that's sufficient and appropriate for a showcase of photos that shouldn't require any explanation or prior understanding. "Hot" is a particular kind of perception, and in this context of a forum of friends and strangers, newbs and experts alike, it would seem to be about direct, immediate visual appeal, a sort of raw sensual appreciation that has nothing to do with familiarity or connoisseurship.

I don't doubt that there are lots and lots of bikes that would NEVER get a "hot" here but which make their owners' hearts swell and go pitter-pat. And there are plenty of bikes that win over skeptics once they are explained. But those are matters of acquired appreciation, they aren't the primal response to "hotness."

But back to the bike that prompted this. Perhaps a lot of folks who know and understand a thing or two about bicycles take a look at it and get a bit excited. That may come as no surprise, but it's not the same as an unqualified "hot." In any event, it is not a very high compliment, so it's just as well, maybe preferable, to be judged something other than "hot."

LOL, you crack me up.

gaucho777 10-08-16 09:51 PM

[MENTION=383563]kbarch[/MENTION], no worries. The aesthetics are subdued by some standards, so I think I understand what you mean by it not jumping out and grabbing you. My feelings aren't hurt if it doesn't float your boat. It may not speak to you but it does "make my heart swell" as you say. A vintage Merlin has been an object of my desire for many, many years (I nearly bought a '90 Merlin as a teenage racer, after saving for a long time, but couldn't justify the cost since I was sponsored by another bike company at the time). In any event, I do appreciate your honesty.

One more shot, Tom Kellogg signature with polished PD7401 pedals (shift and brake levers were also polished after stripping the original dark gray anodizing).

http://i850.photobucket.com/albums/a...pszebpa0de.jpg

kbarch 10-09-16 07:37 AM


Originally Posted by velociraptor (Post 19110691)
LOL, you crack me up.

I do what I can. :o

Bikeracer123 10-10-16 04:33 PM

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GlennR 10-10-16 04:43 PM

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