Fred Encounters of the third kind
#301
I got 99 problems....
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From: Does anyone know where the love of God goes, when the waves turn the minutes to hours?
If only her eyes were on the top of her feet, then we'd have another 6 pages of useless crap.
Can't you see she's trying to divide us? Who's psycho ex-girlfriend is that anyway? Someone fess up.
Can't you see she's trying to divide us? Who's psycho ex-girlfriend is that anyway? Someone fess up.
#302
Banned
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From: Santa Barbara, CA
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I want an hour of my life back...
Regarding bikes in the hotel room, I just put the do not disturb thing in the lock if I am only there for a day or two so they don't try to make up the room.
Regarding bikes in the hotel room, I just put the do not disturb thing in the lock if I am only there for a day or two so they don't try to make up the room.
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It's time for you to leave, grasshopper.
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"Let us hope our weapons are never needed --but do not forget what the common people knew when they demanded the Bill of Rights: An armed citizenry is the first defense, the best defense, and the final defense against tyranny. If guns are outlawed, only the government will have guns. Only the police, the secret police, the military, the hired servants of our rulers. Only the government -- and a few outlaws. I intend to be among the outlaws" - Edward Abbey
#306
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See, this is why we can't have nice things. - - smarkinson
Where else but the internet can a bunch of cyclists go and be the tough guy? - - jdon
#307
Has coddling tendencies.
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A better example is playing a musical instrument while singing. I played music for a living right out of high school. I played bass, which is a more difficult instrument to play and sing along with than rhythm guitar because of so many note and timing combinations. I'd watch Paul McCartney, Chris Squire (of Yes) and Geddy Lee play bass and sing at the same time and think they were super human to be able to do that. At first I could only sing or play, but not at the same time. Then eventually I could do some lala ooh aah harmonies. Then out of frustration, I just sat down one day and tried to sing and play along to a Tom Petty song. Something simple. Over and over and over, repleat with multiple screw-ups, curses and thrown items, until I could eventually do it. Then followed more complex songs. In the end it's a matter of practice, of getting the brain used to dividing itself, similar to how we learn anything, including a physical skill. I'm guessing the same applies to directing what your eyes see when two options are available.
#308
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I love it when a woman does what I want.... it happens so infrequently....
#309
Elite Fred

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I think the difference in opinion throughout this entire thread can be distilled down to brain hemisphere dominance. If you see the girl spinning CW, you are Right Brain dominant. CCW= Left Brain and of course Pcad is disqualified for not having a brain.
If you read the NY Times of course it is speculated the above is reverse.

If you read the NY Times of course it is speculated the above is reverse.
And just for asking the question it has doomed me to one of the responses.
It also prompts me to ask a question I love to ask to students: Why does a mirror reverse left and right, but not up and down?
#310
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From: Chester, NY
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I had a brain when I got married in 1992. But we moved up here in 1997, and I haven't seen it. I bet it's in some box in the attic.
#311
Wow you people are thick.
First, nothing is rotating, it is a morphing 2-dimensional shape.
It can be perceived as rotating cw or ccw from either perspective, from the top down or the bottom up. And you can perceive it pivoting back and forth, exposing either the "front" or the "back".
But trust me, nothing is rotating or pivoting.
First, nothing is rotating, it is a morphing 2-dimensional shape.
It can be perceived as rotating cw or ccw from either perspective, from the top down or the bottom up. And you can perceive it pivoting back and forth, exposing either the "front" or the "back".
But trust me, nothing is rotating or pivoting.
#312
Wow you people are thick.
First, nothing is rotating, it is a morphing 2-dimensional shape.
It can be perceived as rotating cw or ccw from either perspective, from the top down or the bottom up. And you can perceive it pivoting back and forth, exposing either the "front" or the "back".
But trust me, nothing is rotating or pivoting.
First, nothing is rotating, it is a morphing 2-dimensional shape.
It can be perceived as rotating cw or ccw from either perspective, from the top down or the bottom up. And you can perceive it pivoting back and forth, exposing either the "front" or the "back".
But trust me, nothing is rotating or pivoting.
You are brilliant!
#313
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Dirt-riding heretic
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Wow, he showed us. And I thought there was an actual spinning woman inside my computer.
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"Unless he was racing there was no way he could match my speed."
#314
Elite Fred

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#315
Wow, thank you masters of the obvious. The "spinning" object has no dimensional shading, it is only black, hence the 2-D comment. That is why it can be perceived to spin or pivot in either direction. sheeesh
#316
Actually, you're the one who's scaring me, attempting to use the right-hand-rule on the wrong axis.
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That's kind of the obvious part.
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"Unless he was racing there was no way he could match my speed."
"Unless he was racing there was no way he could match my speed."
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Has coddling tendencies.
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Wow you people are thick.
First, nothing is rotating, it is a morphing 2-dimensional shape.
It can be perceived as rotating cw or ccw from either perspective, from the top down or the bottom up. And you can perceive it pivoting back and forth, exposing either the "front" or the "back".
But trust me, nothing is rotating or pivoting.
First, nothing is rotating, it is a morphing 2-dimensional shape.
It can be perceived as rotating cw or ccw from either perspective, from the top down or the bottom up. And you can perceive it pivoting back and forth, exposing either the "front" or the "back".
But trust me, nothing is rotating or pivoting.
#320
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So I looked at this thread just now (pre-coffee), and I saw the lady spinning clockwise. I guess the other side of my brain is dominant but also more caffeine-dependent.
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"Unless he was racing there was no way he could match my speed."
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#321
I got 99 problems....
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From: Does anyone know where the love of God goes, when the waves turn the minutes to hours?
I ran into a parked car last night on my ride because I saw a little girl twirling on the sidewalk and I couldn't figure out which way she was spinning, or if she was simply a hologram...
#323
DOOOD ! ! This actually made me spew some laugh on my screen.
No matter the post, someone is always going to pick it apart, or so it seems, in a negative way. The doctor is new to Triathlon, but certainly not new to racing bikes. Anyone who has read his posts over the last few months knows the man is no poser. Hoser perhaps (sorry i got caught up in the rhyme scheme here), but not a poser or wannabe.
And, even if he was the dreaded "fat guy on a Cervelo", methinks his ego doesn't need the strokes it might get from a bike beyond his capabilities.
As for being a "Fred" and what constitutes "Fredness": I read a bit in "Bobke" last night which clarified it, at least for me. To paraphrase and summarize (and to keep it short):
Roll is in Italy doing the World Cup mtb thing, hanging at a cafe with Tomac and some other guy; he writes ...'when two Freds came riding up, dressed, like everyone else in Italy, in Lampre gear.....' and then he recognizes the guys as two very strong Italian pros from his peloton days, and they end up doing cappucinos and laughing and reminiscing about their days on the Euro-tour.
If those guys are Freds then the rest of us are Wilmas. Or, at best, Barney's.
No matter the post, someone is always going to pick it apart, or so it seems, in a negative way. The doctor is new to Triathlon, but certainly not new to racing bikes. Anyone who has read his posts over the last few months knows the man is no poser. Hoser perhaps (sorry i got caught up in the rhyme scheme here), but not a poser or wannabe.
And, even if he was the dreaded "fat guy on a Cervelo", methinks his ego doesn't need the strokes it might get from a bike beyond his capabilities.
As for being a "Fred" and what constitutes "Fredness": I read a bit in "Bobke" last night which clarified it, at least for me. To paraphrase and summarize (and to keep it short):
Roll is in Italy doing the World Cup mtb thing, hanging at a cafe with Tomac and some other guy; he writes ...'when two Freds came riding up, dressed, like everyone else in Italy, in Lampre gear.....' and then he recognizes the guys as two very strong Italian pros from his peloton days, and they end up doing cappucinos and laughing and reminiscing about their days on the Euro-tour.
If those guys are Freds then the rest of us are Wilmas. Or, at best, Barney's.
#324
You know fully well that BF is a fair sample of society and why we are doomed.








