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Old 10-01-08 | 01:17 PM
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If only her eyes were on the top of her feet, then we'd have another 6 pages of useless crap.

Can't you see she's trying to divide us? Who's psycho ex-girlfriend is that anyway? Someone fess up.
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Old 10-01-08 | 02:11 PM
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Old 10-01-08 | 02:46 PM
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i don't believe the whole CW/CCW left/right brain thing. sounds like pop psychology to me.

discuss.
+1. At first sight she rotates CW, but I can see her spinning CCW if I try to.
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Old 10-01-08 | 02:48 PM
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"...Shaolin monk?"

Can we get back to the monk?

That was kinda interesting.
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Originally Posted by SlimAgainSoon
"...Shaolin monk?"

Can we get back to the monk?

That was kinda interesting.
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Old 10-01-08 | 03:10 PM
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+1. At first sight she rotates CW, but I can see her spinning CCW if I try to.
She alternates . . . . beeyotch . . . . just trying to F' with us as those folks are want to do.
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Old 10-01-08 | 03:39 PM
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I keep looking at it and I can't even see how it's possible to think the woman is moving anything but counterclockwise.
At first sight, my brain says she's spinning clockwise. But if I stare at it and work the brain a little, I get her spinning counter. I can get her doing one spin clock, one spin counter, then back to clockwise... I don't know what that says about me or my brain, but it's similar to those test graphics, "Do you see an old woman's face, or a young woman...(or whatever that well known test is). Once you see her spinning in the opposite way, you know the brain can be directed, then triggered. Most likely it's similar to the task of separating the brain to do two unrelated things simultaneously, like patting head and rubbing belly, then switching.

A better example is playing a musical instrument while singing. I played music for a living right out of high school. I played bass, which is a more difficult instrument to play and sing along with than rhythm guitar because of so many note and timing combinations. I'd watch Paul McCartney, Chris Squire (of Yes) and Geddy Lee play bass and sing at the same time and think they were super human to be able to do that. At first I could only sing or play, but not at the same time. Then eventually I could do some lala ooh aah harmonies. Then out of frustration, I just sat down one day and tried to sing and play along to a Tom Petty song. Something simple. Over and over and over, repleat with multiple screw-ups, curses and thrown items, until I could eventually do it. Then followed more complex songs. In the end it's a matter of practice, of getting the brain used to dividing itself, similar to how we learn anything, including a physical skill. I'm guessing the same applies to directing what your eyes see when two options are available.
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Old 10-01-08 | 05:10 PM
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I keep looking at it and I can't even see how it's possible to think the woman is moving anything but counterclockwise.
Close your left eye and turn your head to the right until you can barely see her over the bridge of you nose, go past where she disappears and the come back....viola! Do the same with your other eye and she'll go the other way.

I love it when a woman does what I want.... it happens so infrequently....
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Old 10-01-08 | 05:13 PM
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I think the difference in opinion throughout this entire thread can be distilled down to brain hemisphere dominance. If you see the girl spinning CW, you are Right Brain dominant. CCW= Left Brain and of course Pcad is disqualified for not having a brain. If you read the NY Times of course it is speculated the above is reverse.
Are you viewing from below or from above? Otherwise clockwise and counter-clockwise make no sense.

And just for asking the question it has doomed me to one of the responses.

It also prompts me to ask a question I love to ask to students: Why does a mirror reverse left and right, but not up and down?
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Old 10-01-08 | 05:17 PM
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Wow you people are thick.

First, nothing is rotating, it is a morphing 2-dimensional shape.

It can be perceived as rotating cw or ccw from either perspective, from the top down or the bottom up. And you can perceive it pivoting back and forth, exposing either the "front" or the "back".

But trust me, nothing is rotating or pivoting.
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Old 10-01-08 | 06:30 PM
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Wow you people are thick.

First, nothing is rotating, it is a morphing 2-dimensional shape.

It can be perceived as rotating cw or ccw from either perspective, from the top down or the bottom up. And you can perceive it pivoting back and forth, exposing either the "front" or the "back".

But trust me, nothing is rotating or pivoting.
Really...a two dimensional graphics interchange format isn't physically rotating?
You are brilliant!
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Old 10-01-08 | 07:05 PM
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Really...a two dimensional graphics interchange format isn't physically rotating?
You are brilliant!
Wow, he showed us. And I thought there was an actual spinning woman inside my computer.
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But trust me, nothing is rotating or pivoting.
And we all just see the shadows on the cave wall as well.
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Wow, thank you masters of the obvious. The "spinning" object has no dimensional shading, it is only black, hence the 2-D comment. That is why it can be perceived to spin or pivot in either direction. sheeesh
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Old 10-01-08 | 07:29 PM
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Scary. Are you the guy who strips out his pedals tightening them when you should be loosening?
Actually, you're the one who's scaring me, attempting to use the right-hand-rule on the wrong axis.
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Wow, he showed us. And I thought there was an actual spinning woman inside my computer.
Nope, she's in the monitor.
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Old 10-01-08 | 07:30 PM
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Wow, thank you masters of the obvious. The "spinning" object has no dimensional shading, it is only black, hence the 2-D comment. That is why it can be perceived to spin or pivot in either direction. sheeesh
That's kind of the obvious part.
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Old 10-01-08 | 09:18 PM
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Originally Posted by iab
Wow you people are thick.

First, nothing is rotating, it is a morphing 2-dimensional shape.

It can be perceived as rotating cw or ccw from either perspective, from the top down or the bottom up. And you can perceive it pivoting back and forth, exposing either the "front" or the "back".

But trust me, nothing is rotating or pivoting.
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Wow, thank you masters of the obvious. The "spinning" object has no dimensional shading, it is only black, hence the 2-D comment. That is why it can be perceived to spin or pivot in either direction. sheeesh
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Old 10-02-08 | 04:22 AM
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So I looked at this thread just now (pre-coffee), and I saw the lady spinning clockwise. I guess the other side of my brain is dominant but also more caffeine-dependent.
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Old 10-02-08 | 04:28 AM
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I ran into a parked car last night on my ride because I saw a little girl twirling on the sidewalk and I couldn't figure out which way she was spinning, or if she was simply a hologram...
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Old 10-02-08 | 05:22 AM
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A Cervelo P-2 is hardly a trophy bike. It is probably one of the best values in cycling today.
Wouldn't this be relative to who is speaking?
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DOOOD ! ! This actually made me spew some laugh on my screen.

No matter the post, someone is always going to pick it apart, or so it seems, in a negative way. The doctor is new to Triathlon, but certainly not new to racing bikes. Anyone who has read his posts over the last few months knows the man is no poser. Hoser perhaps (sorry i got caught up in the rhyme scheme here), but not a poser or wannabe.
And, even if he was the dreaded "fat guy on a Cervelo", methinks his ego doesn't need the strokes it might get from a bike beyond his capabilities.

As for being a "Fred" and what constitutes "Fredness": I read a bit in "Bobke" last night which clarified it, at least for me. To paraphrase and summarize (and to keep it short):
Roll is in Italy doing the World Cup mtb thing, hanging at a cafe with Tomac and some other guy; he writes ...'when two Freds came riding up, dressed, like everyone else in Italy, in Lampre gear.....' and then he recognizes the guys as two very strong Italian pros from his peloton days, and they end up doing cappucinos and laughing and reminiscing about their days on the Euro-tour.


If those guys are Freds then the rest of us are Wilmas. Or, at best, Barney's.
So if you're a former pro its okay to wear a team jersey and advertise for a team that you don't ride for but if you're just a recreational cyclist it's taboo to wear a Lampre jersey? This necessarily directed at the person whose quote I'm using but to the forum itself since the general consensus is that wearing professional team jersey is taboo/fredlike. I don't agree with this philosophy but curious to what motivates this way of thinking.
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Old 10-02-08 | 05:37 AM
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So I looked at this thread just now (pre-coffee), and I saw the lady spinning clockwise. I guess the other side of my brain is dominant but also more caffeine-dependent.
Turns the same way...CW for me. I can't get her to spin CCW btw. I am glad you aren't joining the legion here that can't even decide on what constitutes CW.
You know fully well that BF is a fair sample of society and why we are doomed.
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Actually, you're the one who's scaring me, attempting to use the right-hand-rule on the wrong axis.
There is only one axis genius...lol.
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