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Campag4life 10-02-08 05:44 AM


Originally Posted by ElJamoquio (Post 7584225)
'The eyes of the dancer'. The eyes of the dancer are perpendicular to the axis of rotation, so I'm not sure how that defines CCW vs. CW.

Do you get lost when you leave your house in the morning? Take heed that you are hopefully in the minority. Did you notice that even the guy that wrote the article in the Times who is likely cognitively challenged could even figure out a CW convention?

DrPete 10-02-08 06:07 AM


Originally Posted by sagginwagin (Post 7588794)
Wouldn't this be relative to who is speaking?

Probably more relative to the cost of other Tri/TT bikes out there. The P2C is more aerodynamic than many frames costing 2-3 times as much. Even Cervelo says that the aerodynamic savings for spending $3500 on a P3 frame will only get you 40 seconds or something small like that over a 40K TT. Whether it's in your price range has nothing to do with whether it's a relative value.

StupidlyBrave 10-02-08 07:04 AM


Originally Posted by sagginwagin (Post 7588834)
So if you're a former pro its okay to wear a team jersey and advertise for a team that you don't ride for but if you're just a recreational cyclist it's taboo to wear a Lampre jersey? This necessarily directed at the person whose quote I'm using but to the forum itself since the general consensus is that wearing professional team jersey is taboo/fredlike. I don't agree with this philosophy but curious to what motivates this way of thinking.

Don't worry too much about it. There is no "Fred" test, nor any universally accepted definition (wikipedia attempts included), IMHO. Fred is a relative term, more suited in a mutated form (i.e. "freddish") as an adjective or an adverb than a noun.

Wear what is comfortable and ride what you want. The view of the road ahead is the same. :thumb:

DrPete 10-02-08 07:09 AM


Originally Posted by stupidlybrave (Post 7589167)
wear what is comfortable and ride what you want. The view of the road ahead is the same. :thumb:

+1.

chipcom 10-02-08 07:12 AM


Originally Posted by StupidlyBrave (Post 7589167)
Wear what is comfortable and ride what you want. The view of the road ahead is the same. :thumb:

But, as you have discovered, you just never know what's gonna be on the road behind you...

http://www.chipcom.net/bikes/lancast..._lancaster.jpg

big john 10-02-08 07:30 AM


Originally Posted by DrPete (Post 7589190)
+1.

Hey Doc, did you check the link I PM'ed you about climbing on the TT bike? He says he can climb with more power in the TT position, or something like that.

Durward_Kirby 10-02-08 07:32 AM

Faster, pedal faster..... He's getting closer! Look at his shoes! Hurry that Fred is gaining on us!

DrPete 10-02-08 07:44 AM


Originally Posted by big john (Post 7589282)
Hey Doc, did you check the link I PM'ed you about climbing on the TT bike? He says he can climb with more power in the TT position, or something like that.

I did, yeah--I find the TT position horrible for climbing, but for whatever reason I find myself sliding back in my saddle on climbs. Guess it's an attempt to get my hamstrings more into it or something.

2manybikes 10-02-08 09:50 AM

Which way would a Cervelo rotate in a hotel lobby?

A)
http://img392.imageshack.us/img392/731/fiets345jn1.gif
B)
http://img392.imageshack.us/img392/2781/fiets902zj2.gif
C)
http://img392.imageshack.us/img392/2803/fiets904ph1.gif

If a rotating naked woman, in a hotel lobby, had her name painted all over her, would you say "What's your name?"


Probably.........:D

StupidlyBrave 10-02-08 10:30 AM


Originally Posted by chipcom (Post 7589208)
But, as you have discovered, you just never know what's gonna be on the road behind you...

It wouldn't be the first time that I was accused of being "blissfully unaware". ;)

:beer:

Durward_Kirby 10-02-08 10:33 AM


Originally Posted by 2manybikes (Post 7590123)
Which way would a Cervelo rotate in a hotel lobby?

A)
http://img392.imageshack.us/img392/731/fiets345jn1.gif
B)
http://img392.imageshack.us/img392/2781/fiets902zj2.gif
C)
http://img392.imageshack.us/img392/2803/fiets904ph1.gif

If a rotating naked woman, in a hotel lobby, had her name painted all over her, would you say "What's your name?"


Probably.........:D


You haven't been paying attention.... 2D objects on a flat screen don't rotate.

StupidlyBrave 10-02-08 10:46 AM


Originally Posted by Durward_Kirby (Post 7590448)
You haven't been paying attention.... 2D objects on a flat screen don't rotate.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/math/0/e...56e2d0d0a3.png

;)


If you prefer the text to the images when parsing 2many's post, it'll will make more sense. :)

Durward_Kirby 10-02-08 10:50 AM


Originally Posted by StupidlyBrave (Post 7590538)
http://upload.wikimedia.org/math/0/e...56e2d0d0a3.png

;)


If you prefer the text to the images when parsing 2many's post, it'll will make more sense. :)

http://www1.istockphoto.com/file_thu...g-question.jpg

txvintage 10-02-08 10:56 AM

She spins both ways. Doesn't make her a bad girl.

Pedaleur 10-02-08 11:38 AM


Originally Posted by StupidlyBrave (Post 7590538)
http://upload.wikimedia.org/math/0/e...56e2d0d0a3.png

;)


If you prefer the text to the images when parsing 2many's post, it'll will make more sense. :)

Dude, that's twisted...

Campag4life 10-02-08 11:55 AM


Originally Posted by Pedaleur (Post 7590894)
Dude, that's twisted...

twisted sister?

DScott 10-02-08 12:10 PM


Originally Posted by bbattle (Post 7568546)
I met quite the character on my Saturday ride. He pulled up just as I and She Who Must Be Obeyed were getting ready to head out. 80+ years old, been riding the same Ross mtb. for over 20 years. Picking up cans by the side of the road all that time earned him over $75,000. Claimed to have over 150,000 miles on the bike.

http://gallery.mac.com/bbattle/100168/100_1434/web.jpg

And I'm shocked that no one has recognized Hume out on a holiday:

http://www.celebrate150.london.ca/images/cronyn1.jpg

StupidlyBrave 10-02-08 12:14 PM


Originally Posted by Pedaleur (Post 7590894)
Dude, that's twisted...

That was just a 2d rotation. Twisting and other deformations are beyond my meager skills. :o

KiddSisko 10-02-08 12:26 PM


Originally Posted by 2manybikes (Post 7590123)
If a rotating naked woman, in a hotel lobby, had her name painted all over her, would you say "What's your name?"

I would ask her, yes. Because women like men with a sense of humor.


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