So, I ordered a BD bike.
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Peloton Shelter Dog
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Great bike. $2,000. Couldn't find anything comparable from anybody else for less than $5K+. Fantastic deal, bike, frame, performance, etc. I've had it since May.
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If you order a BD bike though, you support a business that is very slimy. You reward sneaky, shady behavior. You support a business model that is designed to trick the n00b. You encourage Mike to keep doing all that same crapola. But hey, its your money - do what the heck you want.
I looked long and hard for a low priced track bike and, at the end of the day, it was the best deal in town.
Tricking noobs? Maybe but they're still getting a decent bike for the money, and the phrase "caveat emptor" springs to mind.
If they think they're riding the same bikes as the vintage Moto, Bottechia, Dawes, etc. that's their problem.
I went in with my eyes open, fully informed about what I was buying:
A Taiwanese made steel track frame with some less than stellar components (such as there are on a track bike) for $350.
Also, children will run from you like the Frankenstein monster.
Women will scorn you like the Elephant man.
Road Nazi's the world over will turn up their noses and scoff at you. And most importantly, I dcbikeguy, will think less of you. If you can live with that, then go for it.
Last edited by MONGO!; 12-03-08 at 11:27 PM.
#55
I got this:

https://www.bikesdirect.com/products/.../ktblk_600.jpg
I saved tons of money compared to a comparable store bought model.
I'll save even more when the Shill Discount™ kicks in.
Just have to hit a few more forums....

https://www.bikesdirect.com/products/.../ktblk_600.jpg
I saved tons of money compared to a comparable store bought model.
I'll save even more when the Shill Discount™ kicks in.
Just have to hit a few more forums....

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If you order a BD bike though, you support a business that is very slimy. You reward sneaky, shady behavior. You support a business model that is designed to trick the n00b. You encourage Mike to keep doing all that same crapola. But hey, its your money - do what the heck you want.
Also, children will run from you like the Frankenstein monster. Women will scorn you like the Elephant man. Road Nazi's the world over will turn up their noses and scoff at you. And most importantly, I dcbikeguy, will think less of you. If you can live with that, then go for it.
Also, children will run from you like the Frankenstein monster. Women will scorn you like the Elephant man. Road Nazi's the world over will turn up their noses and scoff at you. And most importantly, I dcbikeguy, will think less of you. If you can live with that, then go for it.
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I bought a BD bike via eBay with the Live discount this morning. The cost wound up being less than a pair of Super Record 11 shifters. It's a good price for a bike that will see only trainer and/or rain use.
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I already have an Aliante I picked up on ebay for cheap, a lockring to replace the junk one that's on there, a pair of Conti 4000s from PBK and a brake is on the way.
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Sua Ku
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You forgot to mention the shoddy quality. The Bottecchia I bought got a flat the first time I ran over a tack and I've gotten other flats too, and I had to put new tires on it at about a thousand miles, and a derailleur cable broke but I was able to weld it, and I had to put two new spokes in after my 220-lb son was hopping curbs on it, and the paint has gotten some chips in it, and I think the bar tape is dirty but it's hard to tell because it's black. As for the Windsor I bought, it's been less of a problem but doesn't get ridden as much. Hope this helps.
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Sua Ku
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Mongo you are a complete shill. Take your opinions elsewhere. Not everyone wants to buy a good value bike.
(hope that helps your discount cause
)
(hope that helps your discount cause
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I got a Bottecchia USA and a Pedal Force bike, but I will "shill" for BD because these Taiwanese CF Frames are pretty good and pretty inexpensive if you know where to buy them! Have you ever wondered where Specialized, Trek, Giant, and some other brand name bikes are getting most of their CF frames from? The major difference is that brand names get to mark up higher prices due to higher overhead.
Enjoy your bike Mongo ... and ride the crap out of that bike!
Enjoy your bike Mongo ... and ride the crap out of that bike!
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South Carolina Ed

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#71
I got a Bottecchia USA and a Pedal Force bike, but I will "shill" for BD because these Taiwanese CF Frames are pretty good and pretty inexpensive if you know where to buy them! Have you ever wondered where Specialized, Trek, Giant, and some other brand name bikes are getting most of their CF frames from? The major difference is that brand names get to mark up higher prices due to higher overhead.
Enjoy your bike Mongo ... and ride the crap out of that bike!
Enjoy your bike Mongo ... and ride the crap out of that bike!
#72
Are those the bikes where the bottom brackets were* crap knockoffs that break and send the rider down onto the top tube....which in turn mashs their gonads?
edited for poor grammar and spelling*
edited for poor grammar and spelling*
Last edited by RichinPeoria; 12-05-08 at 06:17 PM.
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The irony that you edited that for grammar and spelling is not lost on anyone.
Last edited by 14max; 12-05-08 at 06:17 PM.
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It's PUI Friday.....burp!
Last edited by RichinPeoria; 12-05-08 at 06:18 PM.






