Patch or Pitch?
#51
Making a kilometer blurry
I patch them until I get a puncture in or near another patch.
#52
Rice Baker
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: socal
Posts: 566
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time
in
1 Post
24 pack of patch kits for the long-hauler: https://www.jensonusa.com/store/produ...atch+Kits.aspx
#53
well hello there
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Point Loma, CA
Posts: 15,430
Bikes: Bill Holland (Road-Ti), Fuji Roubaix Pro (back-up), Bike Friday (folder), Co-Motion (tandem) & Trek 750 (hybrid)
Mentioned: 6 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 503 Post(s)
Liked 336 Times
in
206 Posts
I'm exactly the opposite. I like my spare tube to be fresh and new. I find I can compress a new tube into a much smaller package, and therefore it's more easily manageable, compared to a used tube.
__________________
.
.
Two wheels good. Four wheels bad.
.
.
Two wheels good. Four wheels bad.
#54
Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 1,407
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 23 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
Absolutely no reason not to patch a flat tube. I'm not sure where some people get the idea that a patched tube can't be trusted. I've got multiple patches in each of my mounted tubes right now, get fewer flats than anyone I know (knocking on wood), and frequently hit 45-50 on the road.
The tube isn't going to 'exploslively fail' unless the tire does, in which case a new tube will fail just as quickly. The tube is simply an air barrier, nothing more. If it holds air, than it's doing it's job. There's no "my tubes hold air better than your tubes because mine are unmolested" here. Still I frequently run into people who toss tubes, and I will offer to take them after on the road flat's if I know they'll be canned when they get home.
Oh, and I don't use any special type of patch. Just the standard ones in the plastic boxes at the LBS. Roughen the surface with sandpaper, apply larger than necessary but thin layer of glue, wait like 10 minutes and then apply the patch centered on the puncture. And done. Most of the time you spend waiting for the glue to dry. Once the patch is applied and massaged a bit, it can be remounted and reinflated immediately. Those of you who have said that this is not rocket science...may be onto something.
-Jeremy
The tube isn't going to 'exploslively fail' unless the tire does, in which case a new tube will fail just as quickly. The tube is simply an air barrier, nothing more. If it holds air, than it's doing it's job. There's no "my tubes hold air better than your tubes because mine are unmolested" here. Still I frequently run into people who toss tubes, and I will offer to take them after on the road flat's if I know they'll be canned when they get home.
Oh, and I don't use any special type of patch. Just the standard ones in the plastic boxes at the LBS. Roughen the surface with sandpaper, apply larger than necessary but thin layer of glue, wait like 10 minutes and then apply the patch centered on the puncture. And done. Most of the time you spend waiting for the glue to dry. Once the patch is applied and massaged a bit, it can be remounted and reinflated immediately. Those of you who have said that this is not rocket science...may be onto something.
-Jeremy
#55
Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: San Marcos, CA
Posts: 826
Bikes: Domane 9.0 sl
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
#56
Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 560
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
24 pack of patch kits for the long-hauler: https://www.jensonusa.com/store/produ...atch+Kits.aspx
I think I use a lot of patches at about 2 boxes per year. That would make a 12 year supply....
#57
Mad bike riding scientist
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Denver, CO
Posts: 27,390
Bikes: Some silver ones, a red one, a black and orange one, and a few titanium ones
Mentioned: 152 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 6232 Post(s)
Liked 4,239 Times
in
2,377 Posts
My wife makes fun of me when I get to around 25...or if I patch over another patch Otherwise, I patch until the tube is too thick to put in the tire
__________________
Stuart Black
Plan Epsilon Around Lake Michigan in the era of Covid
Old School…When It Wasn’t Ancient bikepacking
Gold Fever Three days of dirt in Colorado
Pokin' around the Poconos A cold ride around Lake Erie
Dinosaurs in Colorado A mountain bike guide to the Purgatory Canyon dinosaur trackway
Solo Without Pie. The search for pie in the Midwest.
Picking the Scablands. Washington and Oregon, 2005. Pie and spiders on the Columbia River!
Stuart Black
Plan Epsilon Around Lake Michigan in the era of Covid
Old School…When It Wasn’t Ancient bikepacking
Gold Fever Three days of dirt in Colorado
Pokin' around the Poconos A cold ride around Lake Erie
Dinosaurs in Colorado A mountain bike guide to the Purgatory Canyon dinosaur trackway
Solo Without Pie. The search for pie in the Midwest.
Picking the Scablands. Washington and Oregon, 2005. Pie and spiders on the Columbia River!
#58
Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Pacific NorthWest
Posts: 64
Bikes: Surly Long Haul Trucker
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
New tube- $5, patch kit- $4, and can fix about a dozen flats.. seems like a no brainer.
#59
Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Scottsbluff, Nebraska
Posts: 267
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
$3-4 a tube is not a sale.
#61
Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Azusa, CA
Posts: 591
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
#62
Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Bay Area, Calif.
Posts: 7,239
Mentioned: 13 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 659 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 7 Times
in
6 Posts
I'm with the 'patch until the tube is unrepairable' crowd. Usually wait until I have 4 or 5 punctured tubes and then do them together since getting things ready and waiting for the glue to dry take the most time. Only takes about 10 minutes to fix 4 tubes and costs ~ $1 for the patches. So if tubes are $3 each you've effectively earned $11 in a sixth of an hour or $66/hr - and it's non-taxable. And I usually do it during commercial breaks or while net-surfing so it wouldn't have been productive time otherwise.
#63
Roadkill
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: East Tennessee
Posts: 858
Bikes: 2002 Lightspeed Classic; 2010 Pedalforce RS
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
I can build a wheel just fine, patching a tube is a talent I don't possess. I never carry a patched tube as a spare. I put the patched tubes on the bike right away and let them sit overnight to check to see if they hold by any chance or put them in a spare wheel for a while.
#64
yeahh, becky
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: DC
Posts: 1,395
Bikes: 1990 Kotter Albuch, 2005 Empella Spaar Select Cross, 2007 Ridley Aedon
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
never had one fail. never had one rip. never had one loosen. i have a tube with seven patches, and it still makes it a few months each time before it goes again.
#65
Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Charlotte, NC (originally from MA)
Posts: 331
Bikes: 2015 Niner RLT9 / 2006 Felt F5C / 2012 Stumpjumper
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
These are great. I have a pack with me on all rides, and patching a tube using them has never taken more than 2 minutes. Oh, and none of them have ever leaked or broken.
#66
Senior Member
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 212
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
The Specialized patches are paper thin and with self adhesive. It takes 20 seconds to abrade with the included sandpaper and 20 more seconds to put on the patch and there is no gluey mess. Maybe it takes 5 minutes to locate the puncture so this is so simple.
Regards, Curtwally
Regards, Curtwally