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Old 06-05-09, 03:59 PM
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Tonight good meal and limit beer intake, no hockey tonight so 4-5.

During the ride, I'd try to eat 1/2 an energy bar 130 calories and around 500 ml of water an hour during the ride. Ride at your own pace and try to draft. Gels are good for the last hour as they act quick.

Eat a good meal tomorrow night and again limit beer intake 5-6 even though there's a hockey game on.
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Originally Posted by patentcad
Wait, that sounds like standard botto race tactics.
you've obviously never raced with me.
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Originally Posted by dsellinger
Do I get a prize for doing 2 metric centuries tomorrow?

Maybe someone can make me a "Bike Forums" badge of self loathing.
Somewhere in a drawer I have some League of American Wheelmen (I'm guessing they have changed their name to be PC) patches for completing double metric century rides about 25 years ago. If you really want it I will try to find it and send it to you.
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Originally Posted by botto
you've obviously never raced with me.
Look for the early break.

Any wheel sucking takes place later.
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Originally Posted by clausen
Tonight good meal and limit beer intake, no hockey tonight so 4-5.

Eat a good meal tomorrow night and again limit beer intake 5-6 even though there's a hockey game on.
Go Wings!!!
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Originally Posted by hocker
Go Wings!!!
Yes wings could go with the beer, but he would still need carbs.
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Originally Posted by mattm
True, and a valid point - but I think beginners should overshoot their eating/drinking if anything, rather than try to lowball it.

An experienced rider could do this ride on a few water bottles and a few Gu packets, but beginners may need more fuel since they'll be out there longer.
This is a key point. Often times you tell a beginner 250 cals and they still end up under.

My commute is 65 miles before adding any extra miles. I do that commute on two bottles and about 6 gels. It's about four hours with about 2100 -2300 kjs. I may take in 800 cals (two bottles of 200 cals and 6 gels) if I'm really really focused. Many nights I don't take in more than 600.
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Great suggestions, thanks. (and yes, its two 100k rides, one tomorrow and one Sunday)

So water is fine? No gatorade? Guess I don't have to worry about electrolytes if I'm eating some bananas/gels, etc?
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You will need some gatorade.
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Originally Posted by 10 Wheels
You will need some gatorade.


incorrect.
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Originally Posted by mattm
true, and a valid point - but i think beginners should overshoot their eating/drinking if anything, rather than try to lowball it.

An experienced rider could do this ride on a few water bottles and a few gu packets, but beginners may need more fuel since they'll be out there longer.
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Most energy bars are about 250 calories. So if you eat about one per hour, you'll have enough energy to make it to the end.


And yes, as you get more experienced, you can get away with less. Last Sunday I did a metric on a 250 cal Ensure, a 150 cal Iced Tea, and a cookie that was probably about 200 calories. But I would NEVER recommend that someone new to 100 km try that.

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Originally Posted by 10 Wheels
You will need some gatorade.
No gatorade. If your eating energy bars and or gels they have everything you need. Water will be fine.
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The gatorade will kick in at about the 40 mile mark.
Try some.
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Originally Posted by 10 Wheels
The gatorade will kick in at about the 40 mile mark.
Try some.
I like Nuun electrolyte tablets - doesn't leave that weird film in your mouth/bottle either.

Too much sugar in Gatorade to drink a lot of it on a ride, I think.
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Originally Posted by mattm
I like Nuun electrolyte tablets - doesn't leave that weird film in your mouth/bottle either.

Too much sugar in Gatorade to drink a lot of it on a ride, I think.
I have been using Carbo Pro 2 scoops (224 calories) and one Motor Tab (65 calories) with 250mg Sodium and 75 mg Potassium. Good flavor and fizzy
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Originally Posted by 10 Wheels
You will need some gatorade.
Incorrect

Originally Posted by botto


incorrect.
correct

Originally Posted by clausen
No gatorade. If your eating energy bars and or gels they have everything you need. Water will be fine.
Correct

Originally Posted by 10 Wheels
The gatorade will kick in at about the 40 mile mark.
Try some.
Incorrect.

The only thing that will kick in at 40 mile is bloat and heartburn if you intake that commercial sport drink with the high sugar content.

8 oz of Gatorade has only 50 calories you would need 48 oz to get 300 calories. That amount of calories is easily attainable from a real sports drink or energy drink like Hammer or Carbo Pro in just ab 24 oz bottle. Then you still have to contend with 6 x 14g or 64g of sugar to get your 300 calories. That is a recipe for the big D. And yeah football players can drink that stuff because they are sitting on the sidelines for half the game.

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If you are anything like me you will have enough glycogen in your system to get through 100 K without needing more food, so eating on the ride is optional. Eating well BETWEEN the two rides id NOT optional! Eat something high in carbs right after getting off the bike the first day (bread is good, chocolate milk is the awesome!), then shower and then eat a real meal. A little later you might want some more.

It is imperative that you replenish what you burned up during the day. If you don't then you may have a real bonk (your body burning lean muscle mass for energy) on the second day. You really don't want to go there.
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Originally Posted by hocker
Oh, bring a pen and paper 'cause if you're single, feed stations are like meat markets...my single buddies tell me this. Don't drink alcohol the night before.
I've got to stop more! Silly me -- I focus on time and maybe stop once or twice..... You've enlightened me to a whole new aspect of centuries.

1st Century Rider -- Ditto Botto's suggestion of sucking wheel. I like eGel & plain water. Pickles at rest stops are manna for me....

Best of luck!
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Originally Posted by 10 Wheels
You will need some gatorade.
No way... Scores of better alternatives than Gatorade... eGel is my favorite:
https://www.cranksports.com/products/eGel/
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Originally Posted by Humongous
I don't think an italian's sausage will keep too well in my back pocket though...
Fixed it for ya
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Originally Posted by Vireo
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The only thing that will kick in at 40 mile is bloat and heartburn if you intake that commercial sport drink with the high sugar content.

8 oz of Gatorade has only 50 calories you would need 48 oz to get 300 calories. That amount of calories is easily attainable from a real sports drink or energy drink like Hammer or Carbo Pro in just ab 24 oz bottle. Then you still have to contend with 6 x 14g or 64g of sugar to get your 300 calories. That is a recipe for the big D. And yeah football players can drink that stuff because they are sitting on the sidelines for half the game.

18,000 miles with Gatorade No Heart Burn.
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Originally Posted by clausen
No gatorade. If your eating energy bars and or gels they have everything you need. Water will be fine.
Gels are Just Sugar.
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Originally Posted by 10 Wheels
Gels are Just Sugar.
Gels are primarily maltodextrin which is a complex carbohydrate, with some sugar. The ratio depends on the gel. Actually you will find that most real sports nutrition products use maltodextrin more than simple sugars, and certainly more than HFCS which is what they use in liquid Gatorade...
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Originally Posted by umd
Gels are primarily maltodextrin which is a complex carbohydrate, with some sugar. The ratio depends on the gel. Actually you will find that most real sports nutrition products use maltodextrin more than simple sugars, and certainly more than HFCS which is what they use in liquid Gatorade...
Which is why my beverage of choice is either HEED or a recipe Rowan gave me.
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100k?

One protein bar, couple bottles of heed and call it good.
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