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Have any of you guys seen this yet? It looks pretty slick. Not to mention it weighs very little, and is easy to take on and off. I think it's a pretty good idea, plus I am ahead of the game since I already have Speedplay Zeros.

https://www.bikeradar.com/news/articl...etrigear-23513

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Are all announced-but-not-yet-shipped products vaporware then? How about those 2011 cars that are starting to be announced? All vaporware? Sheesh.Originally Posted by patentcad
Vaporware.
If March comes and goes without this shipping, then maybe you've got a point.
But for now, you're just jealous that it makes your new schwag old-and-busted.
I'm willing this into existence. I'd swap away from my x's to have some of that. I could use my EC90-TT's again...dang.
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Oh man, do you ever not friggin get it. Originally Posted by foresthill
Are all announced-but-not-yet-shipped products vaporware then? How about those 2011 cars that are starting to be announced? All vaporware? Sheesh.
If my some miracle this stupid product ever comes to market, and IF it works and doesn't turn out to be a total friggin techno nightmare, and IF it ever winds up on your stupid friggin fred bike, THEN you can get your friggin fred panties damp over this alleged gizmo.
Until then, it is total, absolute, screaming, friggin VAPORWARE.
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From companies like Honda, Toyota and BMW? Those are real companies, not startups you've never heard of. And even those large firms produce Vaporware. Originally Posted by foresthill
How about those 2011 cars that are starting to be announced? All vaporware?
More common with software companies like the aholes @ Microsoft and Adobe.
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Let's hope they successfully market this product and that it lives up to the hype and anticipation. It would put serious downward price pressure on everybody else. Nothing wrong with that. These PM's are over priced.
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They are on Twitter if you want to keep up with what's going on with them:
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MetriGear Planning to do hill climb #2 (https://lowkey.djconnel.com/...) on Saturday. Vector data collection opportunity! Hope to share some.
about 2 hours ago from web
MetriGear Planning to do hill climb #2 (https://lowkey.djconnel.com/...) on Saturday. Vector data collection opportunity! Hope to share some.about 2 hours ago from web
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Vaporware until then.Originally Posted by patentcad
If my some miracle this stupid product ever comes to market
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Bleeding edge of technology (Innovators)Originally Posted by patentcad
, and IF it works and doesn't turn out to be a total friggin techno nightmare,
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Early adopters Originally Posted by patentcad
and IF it ever winds up on your stupid friggin fred bike,
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Majority Originally Posted by patentcad
THEN you can get your friggin fred panties damp over this alleged gizmo.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Technol...tion_lifecycle

So, yes. Pcad is correct.
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If this works as hoped it wouldn't necessarily replace Ptap or SRM. My guess is it would really put the hurt on SRM more than Saris, but it would be a serious challenge to both of them in a very limited market that's hungry for a more reasonably priced solution. The projected price of Vector is $1,000 without a head unit, which would then add $400+, So it's not cheap, about the same price as a Powertap hub, but without the weight penalty, and with the major advantage of being able to use any wheel set.
IF the Vector lives up to expectations, who would want to lay out $3000+ for a crank set based unit that's much harder to transfer between bicycles and offers no real major advantages? SRM would have to cut their prices substantially. Big 'IF'.
If I were SRM and Saris I'd be wary of this, but it was inevitable, they have ridden this limited technology wave and charged high prices for several years, it couldn't last forever, even in high end cycling products.
IF the Vector lives up to expectations, who would want to lay out $3000+ for a crank set based unit that's much harder to transfer between bicycles and offers no real major advantages? SRM would have to cut their prices substantially. Big 'IF'.
If I were SRM and Saris I'd be wary of this, but it was inevitable, they have ridden this limited technology wave and charged high prices for several years, it couldn't last forever, even in high end cycling products.
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If my some miracle this stupid product <snip>...
Until then, it is total, absolute, screaming, friggin VAPORWARE.
Sheesh lighten up dude. You know what they say about opinions. Whats so stupid about this? Seems like a promising innovation under prototype / development. March comes around and the deadlines slip, then it'd certainly qualify as vaporware. Till then, inaccurate assessment or rather, pronouncement.Originally Posted by patentcad
Oh man, do you ever not friggin get it. If my some miracle this stupid product <snip>...
Until then, it is total, absolute, screaming, friggin VAPORWARE.

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+1 I'd hate to have to give up my spd sandals.Originally Posted by BigFish
well that looks really cool. I also wish that it was compatable with other pedal types.
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You still don't get it. Originally Posted by VeeDubOne
Sheesh lighten up dude. You know what they say about opinions. Whats so stupid about this? Seems like a promising innovation under prototype / development. March comes around and the deadlines slip, then it'd certainly qualify as vaporware. Till then, inaccurate assessment or rather, pronouncement.
Any product that is hyped before it is readily available for purchase is total, utter, screaming, friggin
V A P O R W A R E.
It is incredibly annoying, maddening, and of course necessary for companies to build anticipation for future products. But never, EVER mistake vaporware for reality.
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IF the Vector lives up to expectations, who would want to lay out $3000+ for a crank set based unit that's much harder to transfer between bicycles and offers no real major advantages? SRM would have to cut their prices substantially. Big 'IF'.
If I were SRM and Saris I'd be wary of this, but it was inevitable, they have ridden this limited technology wave and charged high prices for several years, it couldn't last forever, even in high end cycling products.
I think SRM would have to start cutting it's price once the product stood the test of time.Originally Posted by patentcad
If this works as hoped it wouldn't necessarily replace Ptap or SRM. My guess is it would really put the hurt on SRM more than Saris, but it would be a serious challenge to both of them in a very limited market that's hungry for a more reasonably priced solution. The projected price of Vector is $1,000 without a head unit, which would then add $400+, So it's not cheap, about the same price as a Powertap hub, but without the weight penalty, and with the major advantage of being able to use any wheel set.IF the Vector lives up to expectations, who would want to lay out $3000+ for a crank set based unit that's much harder to transfer between bicycles and offers no real major advantages? SRM would have to cut their prices substantially. Big 'IF'.
If I were SRM and Saris I'd be wary of this, but it was inevitable, they have ridden this limited technology wave and charged high prices for several years, it couldn't last forever, even in high end cycling products.
SRM's are golden in any weather condition. They don't cut out like powertaps in the cold, and the saturn still hasn't been proven in long term tests. I have no doubt it'll get there, but right now it still has a lot to prove in terms of reliability. The vector will have to do this as well.
Quarqs are still nice though, but long term proven they are not.
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Seems like it's doomed to suffer the same fate as Ergomo since it seems to only measure power output on one side. Cool idea if they make it work, though.
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A transmitter in each pedal then? Makes a bit more sense...Originally Posted by cslone
It measures both pedals.
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Stop misusing that term! A product isn't vaporware until it's been promised for a long time and consistently misses deadlines, and never shows up.
Hyping a newly announced product is called, uh... oh yeah, advanced advertising.
Hyping a newly announced product is called, uh... oh yeah, advanced advertising.
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Hyping a newly announced product is called, uh... oh yeah, advanced advertising.
It's vaporware until an actual working product exists.Originally Posted by foresthill
Stop misusing that term! A product isn't vaporware until it's been promised for a long time and consistently misses deadlines, and never shows up.Hyping a newly announced product is called, uh... oh yeah, advanced advertising.
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Hyping a newly announced product is called, uh... oh yeah, advanced advertising.
I would consider vaporware to be a product announcement that is not backed by a working prototype.Originally Posted by foresthill
Stop misusing that term! A product isn't vaporware until it's been promised for a long time and consistently misses deadlines, and never shows up.Hyping a newly announced product is called, uh... oh yeah, advanced advertising.
Is there a fully functional prototype of this product or not?
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Where do you get these silly ideas?Originally Posted by foresthill
A product isn't vaporware until it's been promised for a long time and consistently misses deadlines, and never shows up.
You work for Adobe's PR firm don't you?



