Doubled tyres FTW!
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What cuss word did the OP use that is considered a cuss word. punk-f'ing-turd-re
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I cannot even get one folding tire on easily, I would damage the tire maybe even the rim trying to het the second one on.
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The tyre I'm using as a liner is a 23, the outer is a 25. With the bead cut off, it sits inside and prevents any sharps getting in, but allows me to wear the tyre right down on the back without getting lots of punctures because of it going thin. In fact, I've not had any punctures since I started doing this. Yes, it's 50 % saving money- which it does very well. But it's also saving me time on the saddle which is better than fixing flats in the wet and cold. Roads get horrible in winter, all the flints wash onto them, and punctures are much more likely on wet roads- wet flints are lubricated on their way through your tyre. Our roads are always wet this time of year.
I do this with the back tyre, as that's the one that wears down, and I use the newest tyre on the front. Yes, it worsens grip, and probably makes the rolling resistance quite extreme. But it's winter! My mudguards and 69" fixed gear slow me down just as much, and I don't honestly care. I just want to get the miles in. It's not getting me dropped from my training rides, and I've not yet fallen this winter- can't really push it on corners with fixed anyway, and if the tyre squirms a bit in the wet I don't really care. Gatorskins aren't exactly a tyre you buy for cornering grip or fast rolling, are they?
Yes I remember the tyre liners from my mountain bike when I was a kid. They were utterly fail, for all the reasons you mention. And glueing them doesn't help anyway, they soon come loose. The doubled tyre method has none of these defects though. It seems to be the best way of getting your moneys worth while training. Why would I get new tyres so often, and still get punctures, when this method allows me to get 3X as long out of them and never get punctures? I can save that money for nice fresh tubs to use when rolling resistance and cornering grip actually matters. Train hard, race easy, ya bunch of BF pansies.
I do this with the back tyre, as that's the one that wears down, and I use the newest tyre on the front. Yes, it worsens grip, and probably makes the rolling resistance quite extreme. But it's winter! My mudguards and 69" fixed gear slow me down just as much, and I don't honestly care. I just want to get the miles in. It's not getting me dropped from my training rides, and I've not yet fallen this winter- can't really push it on corners with fixed anyway, and if the tyre squirms a bit in the wet I don't really care. Gatorskins aren't exactly a tyre you buy for cornering grip or fast rolling, are they?
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Nothing, it just wore right through. There had been a cut in the tyre there from a big piece of glass some 2,000 miles earlier, I think that hastened the wear at that point.
Funniest thing in this thread is the bloke gobbing off right at the top about how it'll never work and it'll cause me all sorts of problems, even though I already made it very clear that it DID work, and not only that it actually outperformed my wildest expectations... So now I've got a new tyre on the front, and retired the front to the back, all ready to get another ludicrous mileage p******e free on cheap tyres.
Funniest thing in this thread is the bloke gobbing off right at the top about how it'll never work and it'll cause me all sorts of problems, even though I already made it very clear that it DID work, and not only that it actually outperformed my wildest expectations... So now I've got a new tyre on the front, and retired the front to the back, all ready to get another ludicrous mileage p******e free on cheap tyres.
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ah.... sure.
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They suck.. I've even seen them wear through the tube at the end of the liner. kind of a half moon cut at the point that the liner ends.
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great idea, so how many holes do I need to drill into my carbon seatpost to get back the added weight of the extra tire on the rim?
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