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patentcad 04-23-10 08:07 PM


Originally Posted by Toddorado (Post 10715395)
Let's make this thread longer, faster by saying STICK WITH CRAMER.

He's usually right. No always. But mostly.

patentcad 04-23-10 08:08 PM


Originally Posted by Toddorado (Post 10715395)
Let's make this thread longer, faster by saying STICK WITH Pcad.

Fixed.

Velo Vol 04-23-10 08:43 PM


Originally Posted by patentcad (Post 10715251)
There are so many signs it's turning it's rather convincing, not only on CNBC.

Yes, indicators have been swinging upward, but not "hard." Wall Street can create its own reality, so I'm not going to get worked up over some stock prices.

For every good sign I can find a bad one (e.g., Greece/the Euro tanking). Wake me up when we start creating even enough new jobs to even keep up with the population growth. . . .

patentcad 04-24-10 12:00 AM


Originally Posted by Velo Vol (Post 10715718)
Wake me up when we start creating even enough new jobs to even keep up with the population growth. . . .

Trailing indicator. Always has been. That's always the last thing to turn, and the most painful for the people impacted and the economy in general. My point is that if you had asked me a year ago how things would have been in April of 2010, I would have thought it would have been far gloomier and scarier than they have actually turned out to be.

WhyFi 04-24-10 05:44 AM

My most important indicator - in the last 3 months, I've had more clients make 5-digit hifi purchases than in the preceding 9 months. If nothing else, people are certainly feeling more comfortable spending money, and that's a good start.

midgetmaestro 04-24-10 05:56 AM


Originally Posted by heckler (Post 10715479)
Too small for the folks in this thread ;)

Not too small for me.... I'd be swimming in it. :P

G_C 04-24-10 07:38 AM

I hadn't posted in this thread. Solved.

mzeffex 04-24-10 07:46 AM

I might add the jersey is race cut. It's way too long and way to big around. FFFFUUU. But I guess I'm glad it does not fit.

heckler 04-24-10 10:15 AM

pcad, my race was hard.

average HR (for those poor souls who don't own powermeters) was 177 for 56 minutes. The "I think I might die" actually started around 20 min.

Why is it that on the garmin the max speed was 31.0 in training center there is a clear peak aroun 35 and when loaded into my free trial of WKO+ there is a max of 44? WKo/training peaks (is there a difference?) also has my HR av at 180...not a big difference but top speed of 31 to 44 sure is.

patentcad 04-24-10 10:23 AM

Felt better on the bike today.

Velo Vol 04-24-10 12:31 PM

That's quite a lag.

http://www.lylelatvala.com/Deliberat...-recession.gif

Quel 04-24-10 12:41 PM


Originally Posted by Velo Vol (Post 10717463)

I read that as "Clusterf*ck Chart of the Day".


Originally Posted by heckler
pcad, my race was hard.

average HR (for those poor souls who don't own powermeters) was 177 for 56 minutes. The "I think I might die" actually started around 20 min.

Why is it that on the garmin the max speed was 31.0 in training center there is a clear peak aroun 35 and when loaded into my free trial of WKO+ there is a max of 44? WKo/training peaks (is there a difference?) also has my HR av at 180...not a big difference but top speed of 31 to 44 sure is.

A racing post? What do you think this is, the 33?

heckler 04-24-10 01:39 PM

i posted in the 33 too...I want them to like me, but i like pcad and they don't so....you know it is akward ;)

I am personally still waiting for the doomstock invite.

patentcad 04-24-10 02:39 PM


Originally Posted by Velo Vol (Post 10717463)
That's quite a lag.

Who can argue with this? Tough time for the J. Lunchpail set that's for sure. Kills me when I read Wall Street Journal editorials decrying unemployment benefits as negative because they encourage unemployment. Which studies confirm on one level, but how anyone could publish such a diatribe at times like this still boggles my mind. WhatEVER. For every guy who stays unemployed longer because of his $300 unemployment check there are ten more DYING to find a friggin job because $300 barely pays their friggin bar tab.

patentcad 04-24-10 02:39 PM


Originally Posted by heckler (Post 10717655)
i posted in the 33 too

Oh, don't bother.

SDRider 04-24-10 03:40 PM


Originally Posted by patentcad (Post 10400028)
It's here.

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y11...ScottSide1.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y11...cottweight.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y11...drivetrain.jpg

16 lbs 10oz with cages, computer, pedals. That's with Ultegra, stock wheels. The Dura Ace 7850 wheels with the D.A. cluster I ordered should be here eventually (however long it takes to arrive from the UK), that will reduce the weight by another 200 grams, so with the D.A. clinchers this bike will weigh about 16 lbs. 3oz with Ultegra. With the Zipp tubuars this bike will be in the md 15's.

An upgrade to D.A. 7900 would shave another 250 grams or so, bringing the bike down into the 15.5 lb. range with clinchers.

Actually, this frame is not much lighter than the S2, which does sort of underscore my feeing that the S2 is actually lighter than advertised (I'm guessing the S2 is closer to 1000 grams than 1100). The bike felt great doing laps around Piermont Bicycle Connection (indoors on their carpet utilizing my mad Pcad bike handling skills). I'll drag it out for Nyack tomorrow for a test flight.

Nice bike man! Glad to see you're still here, I've been away from the bike for a while...got into motorcycles but I'm starting to ride my bikes again (I missed it). Anyway, sweet ride!:thumb:

patentcad 04-24-10 03:51 PM

Speaking of motorcycles, I was just on my ST 1300 for a 50 mile ride, went by the local Honda dealer and looked at that cool new VFR.

I like my 04 ST much better. That's good, because it's paid for. Only has 16K miles on it. Goes in for a major service (valve adj, plugs, oil filter, maybe front brakes) this week.

SDRider 04-24-10 03:57 PM


Originally Posted by patentcad (Post 10718038)
Speaking of motorcycles, I was just on my ST 1300 for a 50 mile ride, went by the local Honda dealer and looked at that cool new VFR.

I like my 04 ST much better. That's good, because it's paid for. Only has 16K miles on it. Goes in for a major service (valve adj, plugs, oil filter, maybe front brakes) this week.

I'm seriously looking at the Ducati Monster as my next bike. I've ridden a few and like them very much...besides, my bike is coming up on 12,000 miles and it needs a valve check soon.

patentcad 04-24-10 04:23 PM

See, now the VFR would be a blast to ride. For half a hour. Then my legs would be sore from the position. They even get sore on the ST, but I have highway pegs up front that fold out from the tip-over blisters, so I can kick back and ride it like a cruiser, and then switch back to the more upright sport touring position. The windscreen goes up and down with a push button on the ST. Not such a big deal on nice days, but on rainy or windy days, it's the difference between feeling like you're riding in the jetstream @ 30,000 feet or riding in a calm pocket of relatively quiet air (can't tell you how dry that keeps you in the rain too). In other words, comfort is the more important thing on a bike for me and many riders (whether they will admit that or not). On the other hand the Goldwing is over the top, not nearly sporting enough. My bike feels like a giant sport bike with some comfort. Really fun in the twisties, really carves up the curves, but you can ride it from here to Portland and back and stay sane.

I guess every rider weighs those factors and chooses what they like, but for me it will always be the sport touring segment. That segment is small partly because it's not so well known and partly because the bikes are all relatively pricey. You can buy most of the cruisers/sport bikes in the Honda/Suzuki/Kawasaki/Yamaha lines for $8K-$11K. All the good sport touring bikes are $14K-$18K. Well worth the money to me for the flexibility, comfort and performance they deliver.

I can't tell you how many guys age 30-60 wind up on an ST after riding cruisers or sport bikes for 10+ years, and when they discover the ST and what it offers, it's like 'where the F has this bike been all my life?' and they're fans of the ST and/or the sport touring segment. I had a guy at at stop light yesterday asking me if I was selling my bike, he said he was dying to find a used one in the $7-$8K range with ABS (that's about what mine would sell for used, possibly even a bit more). Not such bad resale, I paid $14K for the bike and put another $2K into it in this and that (seat, rear trunk, etc.). And I've enjoyed it daily now for six years.

But I'm not selling it anytime soon.

Velo Vol 04-24-10 05:51 PM


Originally Posted by patentcad (Post 10717828)
Tough time for the J. Lunchpail set that's for sure.

What's disturbing about that chart is that the last few recessions it has taken longer and longer for the lost jobs to come back. Look at how the unemployment cycle took four years last time. And we lost a lot more jobs this time. Unemployment could be high for several years, especially with oil not far from $100.

That's one of the reasons I'm skeptical of a fast recovery.

patentcad 04-24-10 06:03 PM


Originally Posted by Velo Vol (Post 10718409)
That's one of the reasons I'm skeptical of a fast recovery.

I never said things were happening fast. But they are turning far harder than anyone would have ever expected 12-18 months ago. I don't know if you recall, but it was seriously the End of friggin Days there for a while. Even in a normal recovery (and this is looking more like one of those with each new data point) employment takes years to approach pre-recession levels.

patentcad 04-24-10 06:05 PM

But back to cycling. Man that S2 with the Zipp tubies felt great today. You really feel how light those wheels are chasing fast wheels on upgrades.

I do like my bicycles. And unlike some of you, I actually ride them.

AngryScientist 04-24-10 06:09 PM


Originally Posted by patentcad (Post 10718459)
But back to cycling. Man that S2 with the Zipp tubies felt great today. You really feel how light those wheels are chasing fast wheels on upgrades.

I do like my bicycles. And unlike some of you, I actually ride them.

today was indeed a beautiful day for a ride in the nyc area. i had my newly built Merlin out today. man that bike is enjoyable to ride.

patentcad 04-24-10 06:13 PM


Originally Posted by AngryScientist (Post 10718470)
man that bike is enjoyable to ride.

When you get a great 2-3 hour workout on your bike and you feel great about it, you realize there's not too many better places to blow your money.


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