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patentcad 04-22-10 12:12 PM


Originally Posted by graphs (Post 10707753)
Would you say they are more shizzlicious than the Williams 38's? Please advise so that we might copy your shwag correctly.

I think so. But Williams 38's are more aeroer.

KiddSisko 04-22-10 12:19 PM


Originally Posted by patentcad (Post 10707729)
Dominos Pizza is dead to me now.

I don't believe you for one second.

patentcad 04-22-10 12:25 PM


Originally Posted by graphs (Post 10707753)
Would you say they are more shizzlicious than the Williams 38's? Please advise so that we might copy your shwag correctly.

I think so. But Williams 38's are more aeroer.

roadiejorge 04-22-10 12:35 PM


Originally Posted by patentcad (Post 10708717)
I think so. But Williams 38's are more aeroer.

Really, the Williams 38s are more aero?

graphs 04-22-10 01:08 PM

you think?

graphs 04-22-10 01:15 PM


Originally Posted by patentcad (Post 10708717)
I think so. But Williams 38's are more aeroer.

This is the dilemma I'm facing between those two wheelsets. The bling and lightness of the 7850's vs the slightly taller profile of the Williams. I have a month or so to mull it over.

patentcad 04-22-10 01:16 PM


Originally Posted by graphs (Post 10709034)
This is the dilemma I'm facing between those two wheelsets. The bling and lightness of the 7850's vs the slightly taller profile of the Williams. I have a month or so to mull it over.

Get the 7850s. If you really want aero, get Zipp 404s later.

kimconyc 04-22-10 01:32 PM


Originally Posted by graphs (Post 10709034)
This is the dilemma I'm facing between those two wheelsets. The bling and lightness of the 7850's vs the slightly taller profile of the Williams. I have a month or so to mull it over.

FYI, the DA WH7850 C24 CL weigh approximately 1440g with the newer rim tape (Shimano was using plugs before the recall) on my Park Tools scale. AFAIK, the scale has a 20g margin of error.

graphs 04-22-10 02:01 PM


Originally Posted by patentcad (Post 10709036)
Get the 7850s. If you really want aero, get Zipp 404s later.

This is what I needed to hear. Thank you.


Originally Posted by kimconyc (Post 10709102)
FYI, the DA WH7850 C24 CL weigh approximately 1440g with the newer rim tape (Shimano was using plugs before the recall) on my Park Tools scale. AFAIK, the scale has a 20g margin of error.

That is pretty light in my book!

milliron 04-22-10 02:08 PM

http://milliron.org/hosted/honeyrun-4210201.jpg

graphs 04-22-10 02:10 PM

Nice pic!

patentcad 04-22-10 02:27 PM


Originally Posted by Razor From KC (Post 10709100)
Pcad, How are Zipp 404's maintenance wise?

I break about one spoke a year.

patentcad 04-22-10 02:56 PM


Originally Posted by Razor From KC (Post 10709415)
how many miles a year you put on them?

Who can say? I have 4 road bikes, a bunch of wheels. 4-5,000 miles? Just a guess. My total mileage this year will be 10-11K, last year it was 12,000 or so.

patentcad 04-22-10 03:09 PM

Yes, the Zipps are reasonably durable. On the other hand I had three sets of Ksyriums (different ones) over five years and never broke a spoke, never needed truing in 50,000 miles of riding.

fdana 04-22-10 06:23 PM

what a thread.. I looked at 50 pages to search for photos/weights..lol


mine arrived today.. still a lot to change (seatpost/saddle/brakes)..

I got the R2 2010 ultegra but got with krysium sl .. I'm really impressed with the finish... really great in person, much nicer than in the photos

here's my XL(58cm)
http://www.felipedana.com.br/felipedana/bikes/r2.jpg

Velo Vol 04-22-10 07:00 PM


Originally Posted by patentcad (Post 10707729)
Dominos Pizza is dead to me now.

Hey Pcad,

What is your sinful indulgence now? For example, what was the most fattening thing you ate today?

patentcad 04-22-10 07:04 PM

Yes the R2 finish is also shizzlicious.

Velo Vol 04-22-10 09:32 PM

The Redskins rolled the dice a bit but addressed a need. Hope it works out.

Uh, Broncos? :lol:


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