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v70cat 03-20-10 10:15 AM


Originally Posted by patentcad (Post 10552218)
10AM. Bedtime. Another early AM city race tomorrow.

That was perfect today. I got yelled at by two team mates and helped with the unsuccessful chase. Oh well.


10 AM is really early, do you mean 10 PM?

patentcad 03-20-10 10:23 AM


Originally Posted by v70cat (Post 10552566)
10 AM is really early, do you mean 10 PM?

No I took a nap.

Yaniel 03-20-10 10:30 AM


Originally Posted by patentcad (Post 10551729)
It's 60º in Manhattan @ 3:30AM in late March. That has to be 20º warmer than I've ever seen it at this time of year before. That will be nice.

It's 52º in Miami @ 7:00AM in late March. That has to be 20º colder than I've ever seen it at this time of year before. Something ain't right here.

roadiejorge 03-20-10 10:31 AM


Originally Posted by patentcad (Post 10552586)
No I took a nap.

What did you do to get yelled at?

Barese Rider 03-20-10 10:32 AM


Originally Posted by patentcad (Post 10552218)
10AM. Bedtime. Another early AM city race tomorrow.

That was perfect today. I got yelled at by two team mates and helped with the unsuccessful chase. Oh well.

SOme nerve. Dont they know just WTF you are !!

BTW what time did you get up this am?

patentcad 03-20-10 10:36 AM


Originally Posted by roadiejorge (Post 10552608)
What did you do to get yelled at?

It doesn't matter. It was actually a good race for me, I really just wish the chase had succeeded, we weren't that far back. We need to work together more cohesively at a team in these situations; a concerted team effort have brought that breakaway back. Gsteinb commented on this in his Twitter thread, he's 100% correct, I was also surprised at the lack of cohesion. I think we had the firepower today, but we weren't firing on all cylinders.

I'm in better shape than previous years. I feel I can help my team, and I'll lay it out there and try to do it again tomorrow, it's fun trying.

roadiejorge 03-20-10 10:41 AM


Originally Posted by patentcad (Post 10552622)
First yelling: get to the front and help with the chase. And so I did.

I rode in the jogger's lane twice on one 6 mile circuit. First time it was my bad. Second time it was ride into the jogger's lane or crash. I opted for the former. I will try to avoid this in the future but on that course occasionally it's tough. Oh well.

If you didn't get yelled at it wouldn't be the same anyway.

I got insulted today by a motorist who wasn't happy I passed her which I did because she was doing 20mph in a 25mph zone and I wanted to get my sprint on. She caught me at a light and told me I should be on the sidewalk to which I responded: "the state of NJ traffic laws disagree with your assessment, have a nice day."

patentcad 03-20-10 10:43 AM


Originally Posted by roadiejorge (Post 10552640)
I got insulted today by a motorist who wasn't happy I passed her which I did because she was doing 20mph in a 25mph zone and I wanted to get my sprint on. She caught me at a light and told me I should be on the sidewalk to which I responded: "the state of NJ traffic laws disagree with your assessment, have a nice day."

That idiotic motorist utterance wouldn't have been worthy of a Pcad response.

patentcad 03-20-10 10:43 AM


Originally Posted by Barese Rider (Post 10552614)
BTW what time did you get up this am?

3AM. Bars in NY close @ 4.

Just sayin'.

Barese Rider 03-20-10 10:44 AM


Originally Posted by roadiejorge (Post 10552640)
I got insulted today by a motorist who wasn't happy I passed her which I did because she was doing 20mph in a 25mph zone and I wanted to get my sprint on. She caught me at a light and told me I should be on the sidewalk to which I responded: "the state of NJ traffic laws disagree with your assessment, have a nice day."

Next time tell her to keep her mouth out of the pigs trough.

Barese Rider 03-20-10 10:47 AM


Originally Posted by patentcad (Post 10552648)
3AM. Bars in NY close @ 4.

Just sayin'.

I know buts that for the young and horney, 40 + years ago me! I never could figure out that if you didnt get lucky by midnight your chances diminished rapidly.

roadiejorge 03-20-10 10:51 AM


Originally Posted by patentcad (Post 10552645)
That idiotic motorist utterance wouldn't have been worthy of a Pcad response.

yeah but it was a better alternative than what my first reaction was because the adrenalin was pumping.

patentcad 03-20-10 10:54 AM


Originally Posted by roadiejorge (Post 10552670)
yeah but it was a better alternative than what my first reaction was because the adrenalin was pumping.

I hear you. It's a jerk fest out there on the road some days.

LAJ 03-20-10 10:57 AM


Originally Posted by patentcad (Post 10552622)
I'm in better shape than previous years. I feel I can help my team, and I'll lay it out there and try to do it again tomorrow, it's fun trying.

You have what appears to be a good time racing your bike. Yet, your teammate seems to be absolutely miserable. Why does he continue to race for this team? Also, how long before his attitude rubs off on those of you that are actually having fun?

patentcad 03-20-10 11:03 AM


Originally Posted by LAJ (Post 10552689)
You have what appears to be a good time racing your bike. Yet, your teammate seems to be absolutely miserable. Why does he continue to race for this team? Also, how long before his attitude rubs off on those of you that are actually having fun?

Half of that is standard Bike Racing Agnst. It's a tough sport and it can piss you off.

The flip side of days like today are days when all the cogs mesh and the team delivers. If g didn't love racing, he wouldn't do it 50-60 times a season. I'm also not sure any team on this level is consistently more reliable and cohesive more than ours. We have our days. g is certainly the fastest guy in that peloton, but there are some serious Human Lungs that attack in those races, and g won't make every break. We have solid VO2 Max firepower on our squad, we should have enough to bring a 3 man 20 second break back into line. I'd be frustrated with a day like today if I were him too.

LAJ 03-20-10 11:12 AM


Originally Posted by patentcad (Post 10552709)
Half of that is standard Bike Racing Agnst. It's a tough sport and it can piss you off.

The flip side of days like today are days when all the cogs mesh and the team delivers. If g didn't love racing, he wouldn't do it 50-60 times a season. I'm also not sure any team on this level is consistently more reliable and cohesive more than ours. We have our days. g is certainly the fastest guy in that peloton, but there are some serious Human Lungs that attack in those races, and g won't make every break. We have solid VO2 Max firepower on our squad, we should have enough to bring a 3 man 20 second break back into line. I'd be frustrated with a day like today if I were him too.

Fair enough.

Granted, I am not saying this should be a group hug every weekend, by any stretch. But, a teammate, a co-worker, anyone, keeps dumping on me enough, they would soon be alone more often than not. Attempting to get the dynamics of all this racing stuff, in hopes of someday understanding it enough to give it another shot. I hope I am not overstepping.

roadiejorge 03-20-10 11:21 AM


Originally Posted by LAJ (Post 10552725)
Fair enough.

Granted, I am not saying this should be a group hug every weekend, by any stretch. But, a teammate, a co-worker, anyone, keeps dumping on me enough, they would soon be alone more often than not. Attempting to get the dynamics of all this racing stuff, in hopes of someday understanding it enough to give it another shot. I hope I am not overstepping.

I don't race but have ridden with fast groups and there's an attention to detail and group cohesion that has to be adhered to adamantly or you suffer the consequences, most of it is for good reason because everyone wants to be safe and get the most out of their ride.

gsteinb 03-20-10 11:29 AM


Originally Posted by LAJ (Post 10552689)
You have what appears to be a good time racing your bike. Yet, your teammate seems to be absolutely miserable. Why does he continue to race for this team? Also, how long before his attitude rubs off on those of you that are actually having fun?

are you high? I don't dump on any one. most of these guys are my friends. and the rest are there because they have a job to do. this is a sport. we're not in it for group hugs.

LAJ 03-20-10 11:42 AM

Thanks roadiegeorge. I can certainly agree with getting the most out of our rides. But, if it isn't something one looks forward to doing each chance one gets, then why bother?

Not high, nor did I say it was a group hug event, gsteinb. What I thought was dumping appears to be banter amongst friends. My mistake, and again, sorry if I have overstepped my bounds.

gsteinb 03-20-10 11:44 AM

I know some of these guys almost 20 years. We did a bad job today. It doesn't happen often. And no one would say I'm anything but a gracious team leader.

LAJ 03-20-10 11:56 AM


Originally Posted by gsteinb (Post 10552791)
I know some of these guys almost 20 years. We did a bad job today. It doesn't happen often. And no one would say I'm anything but a gracious team leader.


My impression was incorrect® and I do apologize.

patentcad 03-20-10 12:04 PM


Originally Posted by gsteinb (Post 10552791)
And no one would say I'm anything but a gracious team leader.

Thanks for the kind words today g. Sorry I couldn't do more.

gsteinb 03-20-10 12:22 PM


Originally Posted by LAJ (Post 10552817)
My impression was incorrect® and I do apologize.

Cheers

gsteinb 03-20-10 12:41 PM


Originally Posted by patentcad (Post 10552838)
Thanks for the kind words today g. Sorry I couldn't do more.

You're still on ignore but you did a good job today. In the end we improved our position though we should dominate those races.

patentcad 03-20-10 01:40 PM

This weather rocks.


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