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Old 06-05-10 | 10:18 PM
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because it has 2 holes on top of each other. you must enlarge one without touching the other. that's how i ruined it - my drill went all the way through both. they truly made it ultra-idiotic. if i met the guy who designed it i would tear gas him.
That sounds like exactly the sort of thing a tapered reaming tool would be used for...
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Old 06-05-10 | 10:18 PM
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if it's because you think it's too large, think again

so basically all lezyne mount on the side like that ? i have a problem with this because the pump is not in the slipstream of the frame so to speak - it is not aerodynamic way to mount it.

i suppose if u need both bottle cages its a good design. i don't even need one.

what do you think ?
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Old 06-05-10 | 10:20 PM
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where do you ride? you drive to ride everytime you ride?
i use two MUP / trails nearby - stevens creek trail and los gatos creek trail. yes i drive all the way to the trail, they have a nice parking lot.
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Old 06-05-10 | 10:21 PM
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who needs aerodynamics on the MUP?
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Old 06-05-10 | 10:21 PM
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If you're riding fast enough that the aerodynamics of a bike pump make any difference at all on multi use trails, you're a danger to yourself everyone else on them.
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Old 06-05-10 | 10:23 PM
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1) If you really have a problem with the mount, call Todson and ask them for another one. 99% chance if you're polite on the phone, they'll send one for free. They may even send one of the mounts like the above picture which mounts to the side of one of the cages.

2) If you don't ride on the road, I think aerodynamics are not something you need to be concerned about. Particularly if you are also still using platform pedals and wearing street clothes. Street clothes are not aerodynamic, you know. They flap around. And things.
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Old 06-05-10 | 10:24 PM
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why don't you just put the pump in your camelback?
that's a possibility. it doesn't fit in the one i have ( the north face junction 4 ) but i can return it to REI and get something roomier. problem is i didn't want a pack any bigger than i need. the junction 4 is really small - i like that.
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Old 06-05-10 | 10:25 PM
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Originally Posted by NEUROSPORT
i have a problem with this because the pump is not in the slipstream of the frame so to speak - it is not aerodynamic way to mount it.
your body is not aerodynamic. that pump will not be the cause of you slowing down, anyway more resistance = better workout
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Old 06-05-10 | 10:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Nerull
That sounds like exactly the sort of thing a tapered reaming tool would be used for...
great. let somebody else have fun with that. i cannot be bothered.
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Old 06-05-10 | 10:27 PM
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so basically all lezyne mount on the side like that ? i have a problem with this because the pump is not in the slipstream of the frame so to speak - it is not aerodynamic way to mount it.

i suppose if u need both bottle cages its a good design. i don't even need one.

what do you think ?
except most pumps mount to the side. there are frame pumps that hang off of the top tube

you can also put the pump in your back pocket if you are really that worried. look, if you aren't racing it doesn't really matter. and if you are, you either get a free lap to get a spare wheel or have to drop out.

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who needs aerodynamics on the MUP?
apparently he does, so that he could maximize the 400 watts he dials up on the MUP to drop freds...
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Old 06-05-10 | 10:28 PM
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who needs aerodynamics on the MUP?
well that's a philosophical question ...
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Old 06-05-10 | 10:29 PM
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If you're riding fast enough that the aerodynamics of a bike pump make any difference at all on multi use trails, you're a danger to yourself everyone else on them.
i know. but the alternative ( road ) i like even less.
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Old 06-05-10 | 10:31 PM
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1) If you really have a problem with the mount, call Todson and ask them for another one. 99% chance if you're polite on the phone, they'll send one for free. They may even send one of the mounts like the above picture which mounts to the side of one of the cages.

2) If you don't ride on the road, I think aerodynamics are not something you need to be concerned about. Particularly if you are also still using platform pedals and wearing street clothes. Street clothes are not aerodynamic, you know. They flap around. And things.
i will replace everything - clothes and pedals. i just didn't get around to do it yet.
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Old 06-05-10 | 10:33 PM
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i know. but the alternative ( road ) i like even less.
there is nothing wrong with the road, i live the most conjested state, you get used to it.

by the way, how old are you?
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Old 06-05-10 | 10:34 PM
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i know. but the alternative ( road ) i like even less.
Then get a damn comfort bike and slow the **** down. If you aren't willing to ride on the ROAD, then sell your ROAD bike. MUPs exist for... multiple uses. Amazing how that works, isn't it? They aren't for you to push 20mph in the drops, and if you're not doing that, you don't need to be concerned with aerodynamics.
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Old 06-05-10 | 10:34 PM
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what are we, in the 80's? forget about a frame-mounted pump. get a mini pump that fits in your jersey pocket or roll with co2.

OT: Neurosport, i feel like i know you from somewhere, but not sure where. the fact that you are from the bay and mention stevens creek/los gatos seems to confirm my suspicions. where did you go for highschool/college?
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Old 06-05-10 | 10:35 PM
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you guys like to call me an idiot to boost your ego. i like to pass you on the trail to boost mine.

i know i know - i could never pass YOU because you are all TDF pros ...
hahaha not at all, you will pass me all day long, i am a slow rider, i use cycling for crosstraining
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Old 06-05-10 | 10:38 PM
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except most pumps mount to the side. there are frame pumps that hang off of the top tube
hm i have a cable going under the top tube that is almost in the middle. that's why i couldn't mount the morph there using the plastic zip things.

u think i could mount some other pump there ? that would be aerodynamically preferable to side mounting.
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Old 06-05-10 | 10:39 PM
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Originally Posted by corbett1010
there is nothing wrong with the road, i live the most conjested state, you get used to it.

by the way, how old are you?
i'm going to be 29 this month.

yes theres nothing wrong with roads - until you get killed.

look i have friends that will get so drunk they can't walk, then they will get in their BMW, get on a busy street and hit 120 miles per hour on it without even looking ( literally ) where they're going.

you know FAITH is believing what you know ain't so. you can believe that all drivers are responsible if you want.

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Old 06-05-10 | 10:42 PM
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what kind of job do you have? sorry, this is not 20 questions, but i must know
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Old 06-05-10 | 10:43 PM
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the drunk is still the idiot, you would just be unlucky
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Old 06-05-10 | 10:44 PM
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Your bottlecage bolts are not a unique and special snowflake. Barring substitution of aftermarket bolts, they are all the same size, and your bike is not special or unique enough to need different size bolts. I call bullsh*t. You apparently just don't understand how to install a frame mount pump that thousands of other people install and use without issue. If you got a defective mount, then contact the manufacturer. Saying all Topeak products are trash because you are too lazy to verify if you have a defective mount or not is lazy and small-minded.

So you ride with street clothes and basketball shoes, you are deathly afraid of riding on roads where a CO2 cartridge might maim you, and you think you are benefiting at all from aerodynamics? You are hysterical. Rarely can you even get over 15mph on stevens creek or los gatos creek trail unless you happen to be out at an unusual hour. I doubt you can even sustain over 20mph with that highly non-aero bike you have, especially since you can only use half your pedalstroke, your basketball kit flapping in the breeze.

Really you almost get rational, and then you completely go off the deep end by wrapping an entire box of tin foil around your head, claim you are something special and unique with higher standards of perfection than anyone else. Get over yourself.
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Old 06-05-10 | 10:46 PM
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Originally Posted by NEUROSPORT
hm i have a cable going under the top tube that is almost in the middle. that's why i couldn't mount the morph there using the plastic zip things.

u think i could mount some other pump there ? that would be aerodynamically preferable to side mounting.


The mount has a space for the cable, I can use my back brake without any hindrance, as the cable is protected by the mount itself, and thus the zip ties can't even compress that cable. You just confirmed you were unable to figure out how to install the mounting bracket.

yes theres nothing wrong with roads - until you get killed.
Best just hide in your house, then. You risk your life every day in any number of ways. You have no problems driving your car, but you are scared of traffic on the roads? Why do you even bother cycling if you hate everything to do with it, hate all the gear used for it, and hate riding anywhere except two boring MUP's crowded with obstacles.

Find another hobby, you obviously are unequal to the task of learning this sport.

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Old 06-05-10 | 10:48 PM
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I have a suspicion that NEUROSPORT is the most dedicated troll ever. I mean, he even took pictures of what he "rides" in just to get a reaction from people. I applaud you for your dedication.
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Old 06-05-10 | 10:52 PM
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Yeah, I think he is, but I am just passing the time procrastinating on packing gear up for a trip next week.
All the bragging about putting out more power than TdF pros, needing a gigantic gear ratio on a goddamned MUP, how stupidly built and strong he is, and we see he is just a chubby deconditioned Fred who thinks he is something special, but can't even install a frame pump.
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