What are some high end, less known brands?
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Tommasini:
https://www.tommasini.com/eng/telai.php
https://www.tommasini.com/eng/telai.php
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Too lazy to put look at the whole forum. These are pretty good bikes https://www.leopardcycles.com/home.php
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Aside from my vintage early 80's (and a few others like it), I've only seen one new Viner on the road. These are high end bikes mind you, still owned and operated by Viviano Nerozzi's family.
https://www.viner.it/
https://www.viner.it/
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So many, but tops on my "lust list": DeKerf, Sycip, Wojick, Landshark, and Zinn
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Renovo? not sure if they would be considered high end or just more of a novelty but they look interesting. Never seen one in person
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How about Batavus? I've seen their bikes on some of the smaller euro races so they're at least big enough to sponsor a pro level team.
https://batavus.com/
https://batavus.com/
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We have a winner.
Already listed twice.
See list of Portland builders above. Beautiful bikes.
Tommasini:
https://www.tommasini.com/eng/telai.php
https://www.tommasini.com/eng/telai.php
See list of Portland builders above. Beautiful bikes.
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I noticed that Speedvagen wasn't on that list
https://www.speedvagen.com/
custom, hand-built, gorgeous - and a minimum five year waiting list (they only built 30 road bikes this year)
https://farm5.static.flickr.com/4038/...83ddb524ef.jpg
There's a number of brands that people have listed that I really wouldn't consider high-end.
Surly is one of them. They are good bikes but they aren't high-end. A high-end bike I would expect to pay, starting price, $3k+ for. Not a single Surly comes close to that.
A number of these brands do have models that reach that level but their primary sellers are half that price. I wouldn't consider them high-end brands.
What is the criteria that is being used to grade the brands?
I consider a combination of the following:
1) price point of their baseline model
2) quality of their baseline model
3) quantity made in a year
4) resale value
5) hand vs machine made
6) are they a specialist brand or do they make bikes for every purpose under the sun
with this in mind looking at the OP's listL
high-end = BMC, Cervelo
the others listed (Specialized, etc.) are not
https://www.speedvagen.com/
custom, hand-built, gorgeous - and a minimum five year waiting list (they only built 30 road bikes this year)
https://farm5.static.flickr.com/4038/...83ddb524ef.jpg
There's a number of brands that people have listed that I really wouldn't consider high-end.
Surly is one of them. They are good bikes but they aren't high-end. A high-end bike I would expect to pay, starting price, $3k+ for. Not a single Surly comes close to that.
A number of these brands do have models that reach that level but their primary sellers are half that price. I wouldn't consider them high-end brands.
What is the criteria that is being used to grade the brands?
I consider a combination of the following:
1) price point of their baseline model
2) quality of their baseline model
3) quantity made in a year
4) resale value
5) hand vs machine made
6) are they a specialist brand or do they make bikes for every purpose under the sun
with this in mind looking at the OP's listL
high-end = BMC, Cervelo
the others listed (Specialized, etc.) are not
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did the OP ever say what their motivation was for getting this info?