Rode the CAAD 10 today...
07-22-10 | 12:06 PM
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Nick, do you have specs on the caad10, such as what colors come with what groups, multiple forks, different frame specs,etc
07-22-10 | 12:11 PM
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k take that **** to another thread please no one cares.
about the actual bike Nick what did you like about it from the caad9? more stable?
does cannnodale still do their frame "upgrade" policy?
if its feasible I may "upgrade" my 08' frame.
Chad
about the actual bike Nick what did you like about it from the caad9? more stable?
does cannnodale still do their frame "upgrade" policy?
if its feasible I may "upgrade" my 08' frame.
Chad
07-22-10 | 01:35 PM
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I heard the CAAD10 is made from a new kind of aluminum that is 100 times stronger than steel and 10 times lighter than carbon. The purchase of the bike will guarantee you an increase in your average speed of 4 mph.
All of that info might as well be true for all the praise the CAAD seems to get.
All of that info might as well be true for all the praise the CAAD seems to get.
07-22-10 | 01:40 PM
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I heard the CAAD10 is made from a new kind of aluminum that is 100 times stronger than steel and 10 times lighter than carbon. The purchase of the bike will guarantee you an increase in your average speed of 4 mph.
All of that info might as well be true for all the praise the CAAD seems to get.
All of that info might as well be true for all the praise the CAAD seems to get.
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07-22-10 | 01:47 PM
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I actually have a degree in economics, cupcake, but thanks for the advice. Since you're clearly having some difficulty understanding what I was trying to say, I'll dumb it down a bit for you.
I'm just saying that consumers in this case - and likely in most cases of oursourcing - would prefer to be able to purchase a product made in the United States. I'm also saying that there is ample demand for such products as to justify a price premium to compensate for the higher labor costs here in the United States, so the decision to oursource is purely one of greed on the part of Cannondale's ownership.
Cannondale could have maintained high-end domestic production for their top-of-the-line aluminum bikes, but they chose to outsource all development so as to maximize profits even if that means diminished satisfaction in the aggregate.
I'm just saying that consumers in this case - and likely in most cases of oursourcing - would prefer to be able to purchase a product made in the United States. I'm also saying that there is ample demand for such products as to justify a price premium to compensate for the higher labor costs here in the United States, so the decision to oursource is purely one of greed on the part of Cannondale's ownership.
Cannondale could have maintained high-end domestic production for their top-of-the-line aluminum bikes, but they chose to outsource all development so as to maximize profits even if that means diminished satisfaction in the aggregate.
07-22-10 | 01:48 PM
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I was in the market for a Cannondale, but if they have decided to take the CAAD frames oversees i am not interested anymore. that was the big draw for me
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07-22-10 | 01:55 PM
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07-22-10 | 02:53 PM
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okay the problem is 98% of bicycles are made in Asia.. dont forget the biggest companies (giant) is from Taiwan since 70's. Giant is not USA but ASIA... maybe you can buy some pinarello dogma in Italia or lapierre in France... I think trek madone 6.9 is still in the USA this year
07-22-10 | 03:24 PM
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Btw, you were offline when I got back to my computer last night. I will be going up Gibraltar Sunday, but you have to suffer on the group ride first if you want to come with me
Btw, you were offline when I got back to my computer last night. I will be going up Gibraltar Sunday, but you have to suffer on the group ride first if you want to come with me
07-22-10 | 04:28 PM
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07-22-10 | 04:43 PM
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Question:
How does the metal work compare to the C9?
In the pics I've seen of the C10, the welds don't look as clean as the C9's.
I like the look of the C10 and the tech seems like an appropriate evolution for the CAAD lineage.
I "didn't" wait for the C10.
I loved too much about the C9 to wait.
I love it's classic style (now gone).
I love that it was Handmade in America.
I love that it's undeniable a great bike.
How does the metal work compare to the C9?
In the pics I've seen of the C10, the welds don't look as clean as the C9's.
I like the look of the C10 and the tech seems like an appropriate evolution for the CAAD lineage.
I "didn't" wait for the C10.
I loved too much about the C9 to wait.
I love it's classic style (now gone).
I love that it was Handmade in America.
I love that it's undeniable a great bike.
07-22-10 | 08:23 PM
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I'm sure Cannondale has done their market research and if what your proposing was possiable it would be happening
also the majority of bikes are made in Asia and are still top notch... their not grabage or inferior to American made bikes
like others have said how many people would really buy the same bike with the frame made in the USA and pay say 500.00 more
also the majority of bikes are made in Asia and are still top notch... their not grabage or inferior to American made bikes
like others have said how many people would really buy the same bike with the frame made in the USA and pay say 500.00 more
Did I miss something? Is the CAAD10 frameset $500 cheaper than the CAAD9?
Nope.
Is it even $1 cheaper? Hell, it's probably more expensive.
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The whole "people won't pay it" argument is crap. Products don't get cheaper when production is offshored. Quality changes, lead times change, but the price to the consumer for an "identical" product - nope.
07-22-10 | 08:27 PM
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Did I miss something? Is the CAAD10 frameset $500 cheaper than the CAAD9?
Nope.
Is it even $1 cheaper? Hell, it's probably more expensive.
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The whole "people won't pay it" argument is crap. Products don't get cheaper when production is offshored. Quality changes, lead times change, but the price to the consumer for an "identical" product - nope.
Nope.
Is it even $1 cheaper? Hell, it's probably more expensive.
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The whole "people won't pay it" argument is crap. Products don't get cheaper when production is offshored. Quality changes, lead times change, but the price to the consumer for an "identical" product - nope.
raised their prices and use lower grade components.
Annnddd...CAAD sales just kept going up and up and up while they were being produced here.
07-22-10 | 08:53 PM
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