Ok, but that would make for a better video....

and also if someone sweats a lot. also incorrect.

before i bought wicking base layers i used layers of t shirts and especially when it is raining and i wear a waterproof jacket, the inside soaks up so much sweat and holds onto it, i can wring it out. when I stop, i freeze. i shivered so uncontrollably i would rather keep riding.

Oh god, my head, it hurts.

dude, you live in blighty.

there's no farking way you sweat more than one of my best friends, who also hails from blighty (north).

i'd wager he's been riding longer than you. he also always wears a base layer.

i had so much sweat pouring down from my forehead i got pink eye.

and i am a great fan of base layer to keep me dry.

can someone explain why the guy who was hit was going that slowly? did he just stop pedalling and sit up? that doesn't seem very sensible even if he isn't going to sprint.

Dude, that's the best you have for the Great BF Sweat Off?

He was up the road and lead out the sprint, he then proceeded to pull off right and sit up which is common in a sprint, it wasn't his fault, it wasn't umd's fault either.

I was wondering the same thing. The rider in green and umd come up on him so fast it was like he had completely stopped.

I'll have to watch it again, but it looks like he's right in the middle of the road.

yea. he looked like he was completely staionary but maybe that was just exaggerated by the speed everyone else was going at and the camera's viewpoint.

The problem was people were sprinting for like 30th place from what I could see and they were crossing the center line and going right around the rider who was falling back from the sprint. The rider in the green who went left more or less cut Steve off and also waited till the last freaking possible second to get out of the slowing sprinters way leaving Steve NO time to react.

so that's like a hospital pass in rugby.

No clue what that is.

I heard that term while watching a rugby match the other day. What is it exactly? We have that term in Ultimate and it's a long floaty pass that hangs in the air forever letting a bunch of people get under it and leads to injuries.

This was my first time doing that group ride, I don't live up there so I don't know any of the locals on that ride or their reputations, but umd definitely wasn't pointing fingers at the slowing rider.

that's like throwing the ball to someone where the receiver is bound to be hit hard. setting him up to get whacked.

Glad everyone was wearing a helmet.

Boy, the comments on youtube are unbelieveable. Or maybe not, considering this:

https://www.dailypeloton.com/displayarticle.asp?pk=5865



Gee, I sure I hope your spirit isn't crushed, Steve...

He's actually over the yellow line, which in theory should be a safe place to pull off. Everybody was sprinting up the wrong side of the road.

My spirit isn't crushed. I accept that I contributed to it, but to go all the way and lay all the fault on me and say that I caused it is just stupid. As for the guy in green being in the "center of the road", he was to the far left of the road, it was everyone else (including me) who went into the oncoming lane and shouldn't have. That, plus the sprint being too slow so that people around me started sprinting from the middle of the pack because they thought they had the chance were the biggest problems. But as RX said in the twitter thread, I put myself in that position for no purpose since I wasn't even contesting the sprint. I should have just hung out further back.

Also since I didn't put the data to the video, I'll add that I was going nearly 40 at the moment of impact.

Get better! But I am with hurly.girl on this, I have gone down 2 times in races both scraped my arm plenty, the first was almost just my arm.

Poor lead out guy all you can do it keep pedaling and stay straight and hope that doesn't happen. The same situation (being close in following a guy at speed and he swerves last second) happens to me all the time but it just leads to me taking a pothole at speed not a guy on a bike.

Also for the informal poll that seems to be occurring I am on the base layers are more hot in humidity. I would think the pro base layer users would be sporting the full length vs armless otherwise.

If I lived in "Blighty" I might never sweat again.

I'm surprised no one said "Flip it" yet. But in all seriousness, that was insane! I even tried to dodge out of the way here on the couch.

I'm not sure what you're saying, UMD. You admitted you screwed up. The injured guy 200 mi north of you was way faster than you. You didn't grow up in Coastal Cali. When you were 10, what kind of bike were you riding, and where? Just tell us the facts.